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Sinister Cultural Marxist
24th March 2011, 07:00
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201103230043



GRETA VAN SUSTEREN (host): Well, there's been a discontent between the two sides over settlements, because -- as I understand it -- is that President Obama wanted an absolute freeze on settlements, and Israelis didn't want to do an absolute freeze. There's been -- so, some tension has grown up between the two in this administration.
SARAH PALIN (Fox News contributor): President Obama was inappropriate to intervene in a zoning issue in Israel, though. I mean, let Israel decide their zoning issues themselves.
VAN SUSTEREN: They asked us for help. But they asked us for help.
[crosstalk]
VAN SUSTEREN: Israel's asked us for help over the years.
PALIN: Build housing for the Jews in their homeland, whether they're going to be allowed to or not. And no, President Obama didn't want to see that allowance of the building of the structures -- I would have taken an opposite approach, by the way -- but Israel, concession after concession, and Israel facing threat after threat, they deserve to know that America will be there to help secure -- they're being surrounded now on all sides by enemies.
They have to worry now about their peace agreements with Jordan and with Egypt, and they need to know that they've got the U.S., the superpower, the leaders of the free world, being on their side, knowing that they will not be destroyed. As Ahmadinejad, those in Iran, want to see them wiped off the face of the Earth.
Don't think that Ahmadinejad would stop there at Israel. They'd be coming our direction, too, so it's in our best interest to help protect Israel.
Settlements are a zoning issue, that's right. With statements like these from Palin and others from Huckabee, the prospect of a Republican win in 2012 is worrying (would certainly prove various Mayan prophesies correct). Basically, the worst elements of the Israeli far-right would be totally unrestrained.

Lucretia
24th March 2011, 07:07
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201103230043

Settlements are a zoning issue, that's right. With statements like these from Palin and others from Huckabee, the prospect of a Republican win in 2012 is worrying (would certainly prove various Mayan prophesies correct). Basically, the worst elements of the Israeli far-right would be totally unrestrained.

Why would a Huckabee or Palin victory over Obama be such a major setback for the Palestinians? What exactly has Obama done differently in his policies toward the Palestinians that Bush didn't do and Huckabee/Palin won't also do? His presidency is all about a difference in 'tone' but not substance from the GOP. So, for instance, he criticizes Israel's settlements but then continues to support providing unbridled bundles of cash to Israel without any conditions regarding the settlements. What did he do in response to the raid on the Gaza relief flotilla? Remind me of that courageous stand for Palestinian self-determination again. What was it?

Sinister Cultural Marxist
24th March 2011, 07:34
An unbridled Christian Zionism and far-right Israeli Zionism would be far worse than the current situation. If anything, I think the current crop of GOP figures are worse than Bush regarding many issues... the Republican party has swung to the right even further since Obama's victory on many issues, and the Palestinian cause is one of them. Huckabee went so far as to say that all Palestine should be a part of Israel ... basically a Jewish one-state solution. If you don't believe me, consider the fact that they are criticizing Obama for being too pro-Palestinian :P

But I can see why you would say that.

Lucretia
24th March 2011, 07:37
An unbridled Christian Zionism and far-right Israeli Zionism would be far worse than the current situation. If anything, I think the current crop of GOP figures are worse than Bush regarding many issues... the Republican party has swung to the right even further since Obama's victory, and Palestinian issues are one of them. Huckabee went so far as to say that all Palestine should be a part of Israel ... basically a Jewish one-state solution. If you don't believe me, consider the fact that they are criticizing Obama for being too pro-Palestinian :P

But I can see why you would say that.

I am talking about what these politicians do, not the little idiotic good-cop/bad-cop illusions they create to fool the inattentive. What you've just admitted is that, behind all the smoke and mirrors, you can't point to a single issue where Obama has functionally (in deed) departed from the Bush administration regarding the Palestinian issue.

Sinister Cultural Marxist
24th March 2011, 07:38
Again, not an issue, I'm not saying Obama is better than Bush, but that the new crop of 2012 Republicans are worse than Obama.

Lucretia
24th March 2011, 07:41
Again, not an issue, I'm not saying Obama is better than Bush, but that the new crop of 2012 Republicans are worse than Obama.

Wait, so Obama is the same as Bush, yet the new Republicans are supposedly worse than Obama.

That means these new Republicans are worse than Bush was. Care to explain how they differ from Bush?

Red Commissar
25th March 2011, 04:47
I really get bugged about this conception that Israel has "given" so much while Palestine hasn't. I mean Palestine has given so much already- most of their land and getting squeezed into two corners.

But she represents the crowd forming up the whole "Stand with Israel" crowd and making prayer shields with out really knowing why. Astroturf baby.