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tradeunionsupporter
24th March 2011, 01:46
What do you think of this quote ? It seems that in Heaven all we will be doing is worship I can't speak about Judaism and or Islam but in Christianity in Heaven you worship God forever.


Most people can't bear to sit in church for an hour on Sundays. How are they supposed to live somewhere very similar to it for eternity?
Mark Twain - Permalink (http://richarddawkins.net/quotes/58)

http://richarddawkins.net/quotes?page=2

Christopher Hitchens On God and North Korea

Good example of what heaven would be like if the mythology was true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f40TRJl5vvI

Hymns of Praise and Worship in Revelation:

Revelation gives us many examples of hymns of praise and worship, which have inspired hymn writers down the centuries. Revelation shows us heavenly worship, while the Psalms shows us the earthly worship of a man after God's own heart. In Revelation there are eight outbursts of praise to God or the Lamb, the first is on the earth (1:5), the other seven are in heaven. The heavenly worship is to be contrasted with the idolatry of the earth dwellers who curse God (16:9, 11, 21) and the beast who blasphemes God's name (13:6). Revelation is punctuated by outbursts of praise and worship. Usually from those in heaven who say (4:8), sing (5:9), cry out in a loud voice (7:10) or shout (19:1) praises to God and the Lamb. Heaven is a place of singing and worship, and even shouting (19:1 ff). In 5:9 the elders sing a new song, because the Lamb has redeemed men for God, and in 14:3 the redeemed themselves sing a new song that only they can sing.
What is quite clear is that the elders and the living creatures are both involved in heavenly worship. There are seven scenes of heavenly worship in the book:

http://www.apocalipsis.org/hymns.htm

Agent Ducky
24th March 2011, 01:57
I've pondered this too. And it kinda made me think of Nazi Germany. You're trapped in this place. Every waking moment you must praise an all-powerful leader who can never be unseated. No hope of revolution. Nobody questions this, nobody at all. Anyone who does question or is not the right type is sent away... to bad places (hell).

It also kinda reminded me of this song (kinda funny) about a communist who goes to heaven, tries to start a revolution, and then gets sent to hell. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaRyaQw4N0

ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo
24th March 2011, 02:21
I like to think that in Heaven there will be a place for people who curse God... as a form of worship.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure we should all like God and tell him he's great but there IS an argument that says we curse god to praise him.

Think of it like this:

We live, we suffer, this allows us to curse God. But even as we suffer, we still find it good, soothing, relaxing, an outlet for our pain, as we Curse our lord.

FUCK GOD! we scream.

Why? Because we still have breath in our lungs. If God made everything (?) he made air, us, curses, etc. So when we curse him, were thanking him for allowing us to tell him to go fuck himself with a cosmic dildo.

I'm not trolling.

When I get to heaven (?) I'm going to sit next to a choir of angels and sing obscenities of the highest orders, because I love God. I'm going to tell God he's a smelly twat who should have been wiped from Satans asshole, while angels tell him he's the best thing ever (because he is).

Do you know why? Cause God loves me. God loves my imagination, he revels in how I try to come up with new ways to spite him, if only in jest between me and him. For every hymn that's sung with others, a uniformity of a song, he might see my unique not-praise as what it really is: My real feelings to him, and every time I blaspheme he grins in his own way.

Fuck you God, you omniscient son-of-a-quantum-whore, can you see which finger I'm holding up? Yes you can.

God loves it when I do these things, cause he gave me the freedom to do it, he wants me to curse him. He wants me to degrade him like some submissive slut in a bondage session.

Take a look at the story of JOB; Job loved God, and God let the Devil fuck with Job. Sure god gave Job his rewards, and Job never cursed God. Because God believed in Job. I think maybe god believes in me the same way; he thinks I live to hate him, even though I love him.

Fuck that.

God is a cock-sucking attention whore who only wants us to notice him, or pretend not to notice him. To him, it's all the same, since he's omnipotent he can twist our words into something he wants.

But he's still a giant smear on the underpants of the collective unconsciousness.

God wants us to love him, and I do, but I'm only human, and he's so much better than me. I don't deserve his love and his love is so giant I can't handle it. So I curse him.

If only I knew how to love him back properly.

ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo
24th March 2011, 11:02
Yeeeeee, thanks. :lol:

ComradeMan
24th March 2011, 11:30
Is this like a competition who can come out with the most childish, superficial and "worst thing I can possibly say" type nonsense that stifles any kind of intellectual debate? Grow up....! ;)

Manic Impressive
24th March 2011, 12:33
I've pondered this too. And it kinda made me think of Nazi Germany. You're trapped in this place. Every waking moment you must praise an all-powerful leader who can never be unseated. No hope of revolution. Nobody questions this, nobody at all. Anyone who does question or is not the right type is sent away... to bad places (hell).

It also kinda reminded me of this song (kinda funny) about a communist who goes to heaven, tries to start a revolution, and then gets sent to hell. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaRyaQw4N0
I really like that song, at first I thought it was a pro communist song until the last verse but I still like it.

ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo
25th March 2011, 00:21
Is this like a competition who can come out with the most childish, superficial and "worst thing I can possibly say" type nonsense that stifles any kind of intellectual debate? Grow up....! ;)

This means I won right?!

I mean, I won...left?!

:lol:

Aspiring Humanist
10th April 2011, 18:48
It's impossible to describe the nothingness of the life of a North Korean
Bracing for Stalinist shitstorm

Viet Minh
10th April 2011, 23:46
Islamic heaven sounds more fun. But still I hope when I die there's just nothing, no more life IS heaven. :) [/EMO]

Tim Finnegan
11th April 2011, 00:18
Islamic heaven sounds more fun.
You know that the "seventy-two virgins" thing isn't literal, right? ;)

hatzel
11th April 2011, 00:20
You know that the "seventy-two virgins" thing isn't literal, right? ;)

Sure it is!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bsDX54XaNkQ/SzkOcoyr_2I/AAAAAAAAAGw/FRCuytlbtys/s400/72-virgins-family-guy.jpg

Kronsteen
11th April 2011, 00:20
There's a brilliant novella by Ted Chiang called Hell is the Absence of God. It asks the simple question: What would it be like to live in a world where god is obviously there?

The answer of course, is not a happy one.

I'm not allowed to post links yet, but if you search for "podcastle pc040", you'll get an audiobook of it. "ssqqbtm28jdx" will get you the text.

Viet Minh
11th April 2011, 00:47
You know that the "seventy-two virgins" thing isn't literal, right? ;)

FFUUUUUU-

How so? My brother converted to Islam (conveniently a few months before his death) The Imam called me personally to assure me that he would be in the company of 72 virgins, I reckon he'd just wanna smoke some weed instead :lol: But yeah some people take it literally I think.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins

ÑóẊîöʼn
11th April 2011, 17:25
Sure it is!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bsDX54XaNkQ/SzkOcoyr_2I/AAAAAAAAAGw/FRCuytlbtys/s400/72-virgins-family-guy.jpg

Those two at the front are looking way too pleased at the situation for my comfort.

JTB
12th April 2011, 01:27
In Genesis, even God could not make Man happy. Only woman eventually could.

Yet, in the NT, it says that in heaven we 'aren't neither married nor given in marriage'.


So either it's one big orgy or god promises to leave all his followers unhappy :confused:

hatzel
12th April 2011, 10:56
Yet, in the NT, it says that in heaven we 'aren't neither married nor given in marriage'.

I've heard that proposal is very popular in many communist circles. Clearly they're just trying to make a heaven on Earth :thumbup:

El Chuncho
12th April 2011, 11:41
The quote doesn't worry be at all. I already know I am god. ;)

El Chuncho
12th April 2011, 11:43
Bracing for Stalinist shitstorm

You just had to didn't you? You just...

I hear the chariots of Stalinists and Trotskyists approaching as we speak! :scared:

GallowsBird
12th April 2011, 14:34
Bracing for Stalinist shitstorm




I hear the chariots of Stalinists:scared:

Nah, I'm a bit tired at the moment!:lol:

JTB
12th April 2011, 19:11
I've heard that proposal is very popular in many communist circles. Clearly they're just trying to make a heaven on Earth :thumbup:
Well, the early church did hold everything in common, and they supposedly knew the will of God ;)

Sadena Meti
15th April 2011, 03:53
Well, the early church did hold everything in common, and they supposedly knew the will of God ;)

That's exactly how the Hutterites live now. All things in common, no private property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutterites