Why is Religion in the Opposing Ideologies section...

[daleckian]

...instead of philosophy? I don't see exactly how religion is antithesis to all leftist forms of thought.

A bit biased, no?

[dernier combat]

Well, a certain man had this to say a long time ago:

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
If I'm not mistaken, this could be taken as meaning that religion is something of an unproductive alternative to communism and real class struggle. Most religions have also tended to incorporate some pretty reactionary themes and ideals. This isn't even mentioning the primary role of religion in the past to stabilise and support class society.

[RedAnarchist]

Probably because organised religion is often opposed to revolutionary leftism, and OI'ers are more likely to be religious than unrestricted members. Putting Religion in OI allows for religious debates that involve the OI'ers.

[Astarte]

Well, a certain man had this to say a long time ago:

If I'm not mistaken, this could be taken as meaning that religion is something of an unproductive alternative to communism and real class struggle. Most religions have also tended to incorporate some pretty reactionary themes and ideals. This isn't even mentioning the primary role of religion in the past to stabilise and support class society.

Tell that to the early Christians, or the Yellow Turbans (Taoist millenarian movement in ancient China), or the Christian heresies of the Middle ages, like the Cathars or the Brethren of the Free Spirit (most of these heretical sects were anarcho-communist in form), or the Tai Ping or Boxer Rebellions... Even the French revolution was cultivate by occult and mystical themes, germinated in the soils of Masonic lodges.

The primary mechanism that stabilizes and supports class society is the state. It has been garbed in whatever ideology it deems most appropriate according to historical circumstances, from Marxism-Leninism to Tang Dynasty Buddhism ... I think the mechanism which causes oppression in any society is to what extent and how viciously a state ruling class bureaucracy may impose a totalitarian ideological and social framework on the underclasses, and by how much coercion is applied to enforce the will of the ruling class.

[dernier combat]

Even the French revolution was cultivate by occult and mystical themes, germinated in the soils of Masonic lodges.
I wouldn't exactly call the French revolution a proletarian struggle.


The primary mechanism that stabilizes and supports class society is the state.
How is this any different to my point? I said the primary role of religion at various stages in history was to stabilize and support class society, not that it was the primary body that did this.

[daleckian]

Don't really see too many good reasons to be honest. It just seems to be the personal bias of the site administrators.