Anti-Racist Metal

[¿Que?]

Sort of in the style of Slayer or Metallica. No crustpunk please. Would really get into some of that right about now...

[Sasha]

Not explicit anti-racist but both arch enemy and lamb of god are leftists. Deathangel are a very good Filipino trash metal band from the bayarea. napalm death is good but prob already to grind for you.

[Sasha]

Oh, and more industrial but still very good explicit leftist metal is offcourse ministry.

[¿Que?]

Sweet thanks.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

The best I can give you is various Left Thrash Metal bands that touch on subjects like war, sexism, racism, fascism, etc.

Hyades
influenced instrumentally by bay-area bands like Metallica, with European/Teutonic styled vocals
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Sodom
The best anti-war metal band... ever. So good I'm posting both old and new stuff.

HTIdkv6Wx5A
Get their "Agent Orange" album. It's entirely about the Vietnam War.

awuR1Ui_Gz4
This isn't anywhere near their best material, but it was released in 2010 and shows you can still put out raging music at the young age of 48. Plus, it was one of their first "melodic" songs (errrrrggh about 2:50) after being a band of 30 years.

[Stand Your Ground]

Check these out:

http://r-a-b-m.blogspot.com/
http://metalandfreedom.blogspot.com/
http://mirotvorce.blogspot.com/

I'll name some bands later, don't feel like it right now lol.

[Black_Flag]

VHOpIX9z9ys

Heres an anti-racist song from irish thrash outfit Gama Bomb. The rest of their stuff is fuckin sweet too, i highly recomend them:thumbup1:

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Hetzjagd auf Nazis!

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[gorillafuck]

Sepultura are leftist thrash metal from Brazil.

[Dimmu]

Dude, check out Kreator, a german trash band who are very left and anti-racist.

People of the Lie(about nazis)


Don't look at me as if I didn't know
Your vanity is all you ever show
What you believe and advocate
Fanatic dogma recycled from yesterday

Got a master plan
Genocide
Can't understand
People of the lie

You are to me the waste of flesh and blood
I'd love to see you buried in the mud
And when you die no one will shed a tear
So pass me by don't need your hatred here

Got a master plan
Genocide
Can't understand
People of the lie

Prejudice, intolerance, eye for an eye

You cannot hide behind those empty claims
Your racist pride is nothing but a game
And you will lose for right is on the side
Of those who choose to fight for humankind

Got a master plan
Genocide
Can't understand
People of the lie

You can't believe
Don't be deceived

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Dude, check out Kreator, a german trash band who are very left and anti-racist.

People of the Lie(about nazis)
Coma of Souls is one of the best thrash albums ever! "People of the Lie" just happens to be on it too. Easily Kreator's best album.

[cowslayer]

Kreator is awesome.

But yeah Arch Enemy is a very Leftist band. Wages of Sin is a good album of theirs, I would check it out.

[No_Leaders]

molotov solution is pretty good stuff :)

[Anarchrusty]

Sort of in the style of Slayer or Metallica. No crustpunk please. Would really get into some of that right about now...

Thing is though, non racist heavy metal are far and few between. And I am sorry to say, but do you have any idea about Slayer??? They have songs glorifying nazi's in which the chorus is a constant repeating of ''Auschwitz Auschwitz!''
I mean for fuck sake, the lead singer (...) goes by the monnicker Aryan, and another member is called Hanneman (which is German for henchman, say it all, mkay). Google it if you don't believe me, it's I pressume on Wiki.

I am sure there will be some decent people who like metal for whatever reason (image? rebellion? belonging to a group?) but in general it is known that it attracts the troubled. Off all the school shooters in America, 97% listens to heavy metal, FACT!
I often wonder what has happened to the kid in school who blackened his eyes and wore a Marilyn Mansion t shirt. He seemed cheery and nice, but he probably hid a lot of mental problems. Poor sod, hope he has sought out a psychiatrist or something.

What I have also found ironic about it, is that for all the macho homophobic attitudes they wear eye make up and grow their hair. Nothing wrong with it, but then don't be such a dick about how tough you are.

For revolutionary music, I refer you to several punk bands, and some rock like Rage Against The Machine and Pearl Jam.

[Proukunin]

Misery Index and Agathocles are both leftist.

[Tim Finnegan]

And I am sorry to say, but do you have any idea about Slayer??? They have songs glorifying nazi's in which the chorus is a constant repeating of ''Auschwitz Auschwitz!''
I mean for fuck sake, the lead singer (...) goes by the monnicker Aryan, and another member is called Hanneman (which is German for henchman, say it all, mkay). Google it if you don't believe me, it's I pressume on Wiki.Ignore this man, for he talketh right pish.

Slayer are not a racist band. Hell, the singer is actually a person of colour, a Chilean of mixed Spanish and indigenous ancestry (and his name is "Araya", not "Aryan"). They just adopted a pseudo-Nazi aesthetic for the shock value- as if the fact that they blended it with Satanism didn't give that away!- precisely because they know full well that Nazism and the Nazi regime were heinous in every sense of the word. And, frankly, that's not new; playing with imagery you know to be morally objectionable goes back to Black Sabbath, and if you don't get that, then you don't get an opinion on metal. Go and sit with your PRMC chums in the Corner of Unrelenting Sincerity and leave us more nuanced fellows to get on with things in peace.


Off all the school shooters in America, 97% listens to heavy metal, FACT!Bullshit. Gimme one half decent source for this.


What I have also found ironic about it, is that for all the macho homophobic attitudes they wear eye make up and grow their hair. Nothing wrong with it, but then don't be such a dick about how tough you are.Wait, you're criticising their cis-heteronormative attitudes (which I will admit that metal subculture is more backwards on than other alternative subcultures) on cis-heteronormative grounds? That doesn't really follow.

[Sasha]

not to mention that the godfather of leather metal was more gay as an carebear dipped in sprinkles:
http://www.braingell.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Rob-Halford.jpg

:tt1:

[Terminator X]

Thing is though, non racist heavy metal are far and few between. And I am sorry to say, but do you have any idea about Slayer??? They have songs glorifying nazi's in which the chorus is a constant repeating of ''Auschwitz Auschwitz!''
I mean for fuck sake, the lead singer (...) goes by the monnicker Aryan, and another member is called Hanneman (which is German for henchman, say it all, mkay). Google it if you don't believe me, it's I pressume on Wiki.

This is complete horseshit. Slayer are anti-war ("War Ensemble", "Flesh Storm" hell, all of "Christ Illusion"), atheist (anything off of "God Hates Us All"), and anti-establishment (they dedicated an entire album to punk songs, "Undisputed Attitude").

Aside from butchering the names of the band members, which has already been touched on, you wrongly assert that they "glorify" Nazism. I assume you are referring to the song "Angel of Death" in your post, well Wiki has this to say about the track:



"Angel of Death" caused outrage among survivors of the Holocaust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust), as well as their families and the general public. The controversy led to accusations of Nazi sympathizing which have followed Slayer throughout their career.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29#cite_note-An_exclusive_oral_history_of_Slayer-1) People took Hanneman's interest in Nazi history and his collection of Nazi medals as evidence of sympathizing[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29#cite_note-An_exclusive_oral_history_of_Slayer-1) – his most prized item being a German Knight’s Cross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight%27s_Cross_of_the_Iron_Cross).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29#cite_note-SLAYER_-_Jeff_Hanneman-7) Hanneman counteracted asserting:
"I know why people misinterpret it – it's because they get this knee–jerk reaction to it. When they read the lyrics, there's nothing I put in the lyrics that says necessarily he was a bad man, because to me – well, isn't that obvious? I shouldn't have to tell you that."[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29#cite_note-Knac.com_interview_with_Jeff_Hanneman-8)

Also:



According to guitarist Kerry King (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_King): "Yeah, Slayer are Nazis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazis), fascists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascists), communists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communists)—all that fun shit. And of course we got the most flak for it in Germany. I was always like, 'Read the lyrics and tell me what’s offensive about it. Can you see it as a documentary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_film), or do you think Slayer’s preaching fucking World War II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II)?' People get this thought in their heads—especially in Europe—and you’ll never talk them out of it."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29#cite_note-An_exclusive_oral_history_of_Slayer-1)

The song drew accusations of racism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism), although the band denied these claims.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29#cite_note-An_exclusive_oral_history_of_Slayer-1) In addition, the band's producer and close friend Rick Rubin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin) has Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew) ancestry, their vocalist/bassist Tom Araya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Araya) is Chilean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilean_people), their drummer Dave Lombardo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Lombardo) is Cuban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubans), and King had a guest appearance on the Jewish hip hop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop) group Beastie Boys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beastie_Boys)' song "No Sleep till Brooklyn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Sleep_till_Brooklyn)".[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29#cite_note-An_exclusive_oral_history_of_Slayer-1) The band members are often asked about the accusations in interviews, and have stated numerous times that they do not condone racism and are merely interested in the subject.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29#cite_note-Slayer.E2.80.99s_Tom_Araya_on_Satanism.2C_serial_k illers_and_his_lovable_kids-9)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Death_%28song%29

You have obviously never listened to the band short of snippets from very, very skewed sources.

[Proukunin]

I think that the majority of metal bands have a leftist sense in their lyrics. From black sabbath to napalm death.

[Meridian]

Thing is though, non racist heavy metal are far and few between. And I am sorry to say, but do you have any idea about Slayer??? They have songs glorifying nazi's in which the chorus is a constant repeating of ''Auschwitz Auschwitz!''
I mean for fuck sake, the lead singer (...) goes by the monnicker Aryan, and another member is called Hanneman (which is German for henchman, say it all, mkay). Google it if you don't believe me, it's I pressume on Wiki.

I am sure there will be some decent people who like metal for whatever reason (image? rebellion? belonging to a group?) but in general it is known that it attracts the troubled. Off all the school shooters in America, 97% listens to heavy metal, FACT!
I often wonder what has happened to the kid in school who blackened his eyes and wore a Marilyn Mansion t shirt. He seemed cheery and nice, but he probably hid a lot of mental problems. Poor sod, hope he has sought out a psychiatrist or something.

What I have also found ironic about it, is that for all the macho homophobic attitudes they wear eye make up and grow their hair. Nothing wrong with it, but then don't be such a dick about how tough you are.

For revolutionary music, I refer you to several punk bands, and some rock like Rage Against The Machine and Pearl Jam.
You have no fucking clue about what you are talking about.

[Anarchrusty]

Ignore this man, for he talketh right pish.

(and his name is "Araya", not "Aryan").

Honest mistake. I seemed to have remembered it as such.


Bullshit. Gimme one half decent source for this.

The guys from the Combine Massacre listened to Mariyln Manson. All the schoolshooters in Finland and Germany of the recent years were fans of Ramstein.
Serial killer Richard Ramirez was a fan of Slayer and AC/DC.
I do realise that in my ferver I was pulling the 97% figure out of my bum. For that I apologise but my case still stands that heavy metal (in some cases) does attract nutjobs.
Like I said in my previous post, I am also sure it attracts some decent folks and I sure don't want to hurt anyone here.

Wait, you're criticising their cis-heteronormative attitudes (which I will admit that metal subculture is more backwards on than other alternative subcultures) on cis-heteronormative grounds? That doesn't really follow.


^ I am not really certain of what you're saying here. But if I am reading it right you claim that I call them out on their macho attitudes by invoking my own?
Hah, I am the least macho dude you'll ever come across.

[Anarchrusty]

This is complete horseshit. Slayer are anti-war ("War Ensemble", "Flesh Storm" hell, all of "Christ Illusion"), atheist (anything off of "God Hates Us All"), and anti-establishment (they dedicated an entire album to punk songs, "Undisputed Attitude").

Aside from butchering the names of the band members, which has already been touched on, you wrongly assert that they "glorify" Nazism. I assume you are referring to the song "Angel of Death" in your post, well Wiki has this to say about the track:

Also:




You have obviously never listened to the band short of snippets from very, very skewed sources.


Thanks for this information.
I admit that I have indeed never listened to the band, due to the fact that I cannot stand heavy metal sound. But you don't have to like something to have an opinion about.
We all here hate capitalism, doesn't mean we are restricted from having thoughts reflecting it and expressing these views.

That could indeed be one of the songs about Auschwitz I was referring to after reading those lyrics. I find it very ambivalent. They say they are against nazism, but why have music about it? Makes no sense.
Allow me to quote a few phrases of that song:

Showers that cleanse you of your life

Sadist of the noblest blood

Benefit the Aryan race

Inferior, no use to mankind


What should I make of these sentences? Well? I am having immense trouble digesting these.

[Anarchrusty]

Anyway, to show that I am of good will and not here in this thread to be a dick or something, I googled for you guys on anti racist metal and have come up with the following:

Never Christ (can't post links yet, so just Youtube it)

Ewig Frost ''The anti nazi track''

[Terminator X]

That could indeed be one of the songs about Auschwitz I was referring to after reading those lyrics. I find it very ambivalent. They say they are against nazism, but why have music about it? Makes no sense.
Allow me to quote a few phrases of that song:

Showers that cleanse you of your life

Sadist of the noblest blood

Benefit the Aryan race

Inferior, no use to mankind


What should I make of these sentences? Well? I am having immense trouble digesting these.


The song "Angel of Death" is about Josef Mengele (he was known as "Todesengel") - the lyrics simply reflect the atrocities that he committed. They aren't "glorifying" the acts, just singing about it. Have you never heard of a band writing songs about subjects they don't necessarily agree with, but have an interest in? I mean, they could have just written a song titled "Fuck Josef Mengele" but would that really have furthered their musical/songwriting careers?

[Tim Finnegan]

The guys from the Combine Massacre listened to Mariyln Manson. All the schoolshooters in Finland and Germany of the recent years were fans of Ramstein.
Serial killer Richard Ramirez was a fan of Slayer and AC/DC.
I do realise that in my ferver I was pulling the 97% figure out of my bum. For that I apologise but my case still stands that heavy metal (in some cases) does attract nutjobs.
Like I said in my previous post, I am also sure it attracts some decent folks and I sure don't want to hurt anyone here.
Well, firstly, Manson and Rammstein are both poor examples, because they fall more into an goth and industrial area, respectively, -the Columbine shooters actually turned out to be into industrial music, rather than "scary goth rock", or whatever the media called it- than heavy metal in the narrower sense- as suggested by a reference to Slayer, so that doesn't really say anything about the metal subculture per se. That really only leaves you with Richard Ramirez, which is too small a sample to say much about anything.


^ I am not really certain of what you're saying here. But if I am reading it right you claim that I call them out on their macho attitudes by invoking my own?

Hah, I am the least macho dude you'll ever come across.I'm saying that you accuse that the narrow-minded machismo of metal fans is inconsistent with their long hair and make-up (although I'm not really sure what you mean by that?), but that only really follows if you make certain narrow-minded assumptions about what it is to be masculine in the first place, specifically, that long hair is feminine. So, yeah, doesn't really work.


That could indeed be one of the songs about Auschwitz I was referring to after reading those lyrics. I find it very ambivalent. They say they are against nazism, but why have music about it? Makes no sense.
Allow me to quote a few phrases of that song:

Showers that cleanse you of your life

Sadist of the noblest blood

Benefit the Aryan race

Inferior, no use to mankind


What should I make of these sentences? Well? I am having immense trouble digesting these.
Again, a lot of metal often deals with self-consciously unpleasant subject matter. Has done from the start- or do you really think that Black Sabbath were Satanists? Slayer just pushed into territory that offended liberals- and, apparently, a few anarchists- as well as conservatives.

[Meridian]

They say they are against nazism, but why have music about it? Makes no sense.
Marx wrote Das Kapital.

I don't even feel I need to say anything after quoting your stupidity. Sorry, but... You need to think things more through, and educate yourself before making shit statements about subjects it is blatantly obvious you know nothing about.

Metal music is to a large extent based on the idea of music as a source and expression of passion, even (or, perhaps, especially) including forms of it which can be considered 'beyond the pale'. Themes of aggression, death and violence are often explored. In the vast majority of cases, this does not mean (or imply) condoning or approving of violence or whatever ideology you could relate to it.

[Anarchrusty]

I'm saying that you accuse that the narrow-minded machismo of metal fans is inconsistent with their long hair and make-up (although I'm not really sure what you mean by that?), but that only really follows if you make certain narrow-minded assumptions about what it is to be masculine in the first place, specifically, that long hair is feminine. So, yeah, doesn't really work.





Mmm, if you say it like that, I really must have sounded like a right tit eh? Haha. Although I didn't mean it like that, it's good to be called out on so I can better think my sentences through.


At Dj Animosity, I will have to think about it. Will get back on it later.

[Proukunin]

It's like Cattle Decapitation are a band of vegans, but there lyrics about killing humans in horrifying ways. They use that to show the horrors of animal abuse. like it is akin to killing humans.

[Anarchrusty]

Hey everybody. I haven't posted in the thread for a couple of days for fear of causing a shitstorm again which is not my intention.

I did have a few songs as a peace offering, I will post them later.

What I actually wanted to tell you, is a bit more personal. Today I met at a party a fella that was like me, a bisexual. So we hit it off immediately. What was more importantly (to this thread anyway) was that he has been a metalhead for over twenty years (he's like 35 or 36) and so we got into a discussion about it. Long story short, he told me that nazi influences in metal are quite rare and generally frowned upon. He even claimed that a lot of metalheads tend more to the left.
We exchanged emails to keep in contact and he promised me to send for you guys (I told him about here and the flak I got for my posts) an email with bands you should check. So as soon as I here from him, I will let you know about bands you'd like.

So, I'm pretty spyched about this guy. Both he and his wife are bi like I am, and I am just awaiting for them to invite me sometime. He is tall and buff, blue eyes and long dark hair and with a piercing through his nose, she's Jewish with brown hair and green eyes..... both are fucking adorable!
Like most of you already know, I am English myself but have been residing for a couple of months in the Netherlands and probably will be for another year. Just gotta say, I love the Dutch and if there are any Dutch here, please contact me!