Everything is a social construct

[gorillafuck]

it's true they did a study where some kids didn't know about puberty and so they didn't go through because it hadn't been instilled in them because every single aspect psychology is a social consruct.

[Comrade J]

Who is 'they'? What study?

[gorillafuck]

The big study that happened where this was determined, it was done at a university.

[hatzel]

The claim that everything is a social construct is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing...

[GPDP]

The claim that everything is a social construct is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing...

http://files.sharenator.com/xzibit_happy_RE_A_tree_in_a_tree-s744x481-57787.jpg

[The Man]

The claim that everything is a social construct is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing...

My brain hurts..
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100828054703/uncyclopedia/images/b/b5/Exploding-head.gif

[gorillafuck]

this is a serious thread and I don't want it derailed.

[¿Que?]

Our concept of "health" is a social construction. A lot of people would reduce health down some quantifiable value such as years alive, even though it is clear that this is far too reductive to accurately represent our concept of health. You are alluding to this problem when you describe the puberty study, although I think here you're just trolling. Be that as it may, the concept of puberty is a social construction and it only makes sense within the context of certain human societies. Just as health cannot be reduced to the quantified "years alive" variable, neither can puberty be reduced to the "certain physiological changes that occur around a certain age range" one either. Considering that different cultures show a lot of variability in how they interpret and find meaning to this particular phase of the development of the human body, we can come only to the conclusion that to assume puberty as a universal concept describing only biological phenomena is to a) reduce puberty to something more narrow than what it actually is (divorce it from cultural baggage) and b) impose Western ideas of human development onto other cultures (as universal).

I find this thread trivializes the ingenuity of social theory to understand and make sense of human beings.

[gorillafuck]

it's been proven that there are no innate tendencies in people whatsoever people get your facts straight.

[¿Que?]

it's been proven that there are no innate tendencies in people whatsoever people get your facts straight.
I don't get what you're alluding to.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

it's been proven that there are no innate tendencies in people whatsoever people get your facts straight.

Humans have an innate tendency to fall to the ground when pushed out of a flying plane.

Would you like to test that "social construct" personally? If not, why not?

[Robespierre Richard]

The claim that everything is a social construct is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing...

We have to go deeper.

[¿Que?]

We have to go deeper.
How deep?

[Catmatic Leftist]

We have to go deeper.

I second this.

[gorillafuck]

Humans have an innate tendency to fall to the ground when pushed out of a flying plane.I mean mentally. That's why homosexuality only occurs when people are told before puberty that they will be homosexual, that's why kids don't go through puberty when they don't know what it is, and that's why babies only cry to get what they want after observing other babies in society do it.

[¿Que?]

I mean mentally. That's why homosexuality only occurs when people are told before puberty that they will be homosexual, that's why kids don't go through puberty when they don't know what it is, and that's why babies only cry to get what they want after observing other babies in society do it.
I'm telling you Zeekloid, don't misrepresent the social constructionist position. If you've got some beef with someone, then call them out. Otherwise, you need to stop this trolling.

[Obs]

http://files.sharenator.com/xzibit_happy_RE_A_tree_in_a_tree-s744x481-57787.jpg
I wish I could thank this one hundred million times.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I mean mentally. That's why homosexuality only occurs when people are told before puberty that they will be homosexual, that's why kids don't go through puberty when they don't know what it is, and that's why babies only cry to get what they want after observing other babies in society do it.

I'm pretty sure that's complete bullshit.

[GPDP]

wait are people actually taking this thread seriously?

[Tablo]

I'm not sure whether this is supposed to be a serious thread or a troll thread since it is in chit-chat... I assume Zeekloid is just joking around, in which case, good job.

[hatzel]

wait are people actually taking this thread seriously?

What, and you're not? Didn't you hear that not taking threads seriously is a social construct? Clearly there's some proof in the claim!

[Robespierre Richard]

How deep?

The claim that everything is a social construct is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing which is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing which is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing which is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing which is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing...

[gorillafuck]

wait are people actually taking this thread seriously?Are you not?:blink:

[Quail]

I'm pretty sure that's complete bullshit.
Yeah... This thread is just trolling.

[Ele'ill]

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[synthesis]

Random thought: if someone argues that something is a "social construct," they're usually doing it to counter an argument that it is somehow "natural" or a part of human nature. I'd say this is a false dichotomy, and that constructing social constructions is perhaps the definitive element of human nature.

[Robespierre Richard]

Random thought: if someone argues that something is a "social construct," they're usually doing it to counter an argument that it is somehow "natural" or a part of human nature. I'd say this is a false dichotomy, and that constructing social constructions is perhaps the definitive element of human nature.

Why can't I read Trolling RevLeft: The Complete 1st Edition?

[synthesis]

Why can't I read Trolling RevLeft: The Complete 1st Edition?

Wait, you can see that?

[Robespierre Richard]

Yeah it says it's your latest blog entry.

[synthesis]

Fuck, I thought only mods and admins could see it.

[Robespierre Richard]

So why did you delete it? I kinda want to know how to troll Revleft.

[hatzel]

So why did you delete it? I kinda want to know how to troll Revleft.

Why bother, both trolling and RevLeft are social constructs...

[The Man]

Wait, you can see that?

I think I've seen it as long as I have been on RevLeft or something.. Maybe I'm forgetting..

[synthesis]

So why did you delete it? I kinda want to know how to troll Revleft.

Well, I was trying to make a point about how easy it is to provoke people here, which was interpreted as encouraging trolling. It's over six months old now anyways.


Why bother, both trolling and RevLeft are social constructs...

Solid effort at getting this back on track :thumbup1:

[Lenina Rosenweg]

The claim that everything is a social construct is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing which is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing which is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing which is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing which is itself a social construct, because the concept of a social construct is a social construct, as is the concept of everything, and the concept of equating one thing with another thing...

Yes but isn't the claim that everything is a social construct itself an essentialist argument and therefore not a social construct? This becomes an ontological argument.

[hatzel]

Yes but isn't the claim that everything is a social construct itself an essentialist argument and therefore not a social construct? This becomes an ontological argument.

Surely you've figured out by now that essentialism is a social construct? :confused:

[Bright Banana Beard]

You didn't realize that claiming it is a social construct is in itself social construct, right?

[hatzel]

Well, I'm a social constructualist idealist nihilist, so I don't actually accept anything as true unless society has itself created it. There exists nothing outside of social constructed ideas...:rolleyes:

[Robespierre Richard]

Dude, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos.

[L.A.P.]

I'm not sure whether this is supposed to be a serious thread or a troll thread since it is in chit-chat... I assume Zeekloid is just joking around, in which case, good job.

In that case.
http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg

[Bright Banana Beard]

All of you are a fool, Zeekloid is an anti-troll member.

[The Man]

The big study that happened where this was determined, it was done at a university.

^^
This

That's when I found out this whole thing was trolling.

[hatzel]

That's when I found out this whole thing was trolling.

What? Didn't you read that study? It's worth it, trust me!

[The Man]

What? Didn't you read that study? It's worth it, trust me!

Well I know of the study from the university, but I just haven't taken the time to read it.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

I think we need some Kant as an antidote to all this Humeour.

[L.A.P.]

Well I know of the study from the university, but I just haven't taken the time to read it.

I found a link to the study on that one website.

[synthesis]

I think we need some Kant as an antidote to all this Humeour.

http://www.argyleacademy.com/uploaded_images/batman_sigh_lowres-719954.jpg

[The Man]

I found a link to the study on that one website.

Oh, you mean from that one website?

[Robespierre Richard]

No, the other one.

The one about Tortsky.

[Iraultzaile Ezkerreko]

You're mother is a social construct.








Ok, seriously, who didn't see that one coming? I'm surprised it took three pages.

[Robespierre Richard]

You're

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[L.A.P.]

Oh, you mean from that one website?

Yeah, the one website with that one name that showed that one study from that one university about that one thing.

[Bright Banana Beard]

But that one website is already itself a social construct.

[GPDP]

http://grassisleena.com/all_images/whoa.jpg

[The Man]

But isn't already itself a social construct?

[Comrade J]

3 years ago we had quote trains.

Now we have this.

Good to be back.

[The Man]

3 years ago we had quote trains.

Now we have this.

Good to be back.
,

[L.A.P.]

But that one website is already itself a social construct.

You mean that one social construct? Aren't social constructs social constructs?

[synthesis]

We have to go deeper.

Inspection.

(Staircase wit, my bad.)

[The Man]

Inspection.

(Staircase wit, my bad.)

Ha, you idiot. Inspections are social constructs.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Could the belief that everything is a social construct be called "social constructivism"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivism_%28art%29

Sorry, just trying to make a constructive contribution to this thread.

[Magón]

But isn't already itself a social construct?

No because it tried to be, but then was twice removed for some reason, only to end up half social construct, half creative being.

Later it became Space.

[hatzel]

Sorry, just trying to make a social constructive contribution to this thread.

Fixed :)

[Robespierre Richard]

Guys isn't this thread a social construct so everything that's said in it is already a social construct including this post and any claims made within it?

[Bandito]

Poll time. (http://www.debate.org/debates/Everything-is-a-social-construct./1/)

[praxis1966]

You're mother is a social construct.

So is your face.

[The Man]

So is your face.

http://www.pacificfab.net/gallery/d/1563-1/Oh+Snap.jpg

[Enragé]

just because all our understandings of everything are socially constructed, and mediated through the use of socially constructed concepts, doesnt mean everything is a social construct.

anyway,
puberty (at least in the way it manifests itself) has long ago been shown to be more of an outgrowth of specific social circumstance than biology
This was already a topic of discussion in the 1930's.

[ZeroNowhere]

Zeekloid, it's not as amusing when it's not serious. Given that this is Revleft, there is no reason not to settle for the real thing.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Poe's Law (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe%27s_Law)

"Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult to distinguish between parodies of religious fundamentalism (or, more generally, parodies of any crackpot or extremist belief) and genuine proponents of religious fundamentalism, since they both seem equally insane. Conversely, real fundamentalism can easily be mistaken for a parody of fundamentalism."

People sincerely believe the weirdest shit. The belief that everything is a social construct is small potatoes.

[gorillafuck]

I am satisfied with how this went.