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Red Flag
16th September 2003, 23:47
id like to know of what countries are currently not capitolist.. i know of a few but im sure there are more

CubanFox
17th September 2003, 00:24
Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, North Korea, Transdniestr (communist seperatist country in Moldova. Own currency, own government, own military; is basically its own country but it lacks international recognition)

I hesitate to call China noncapitalist...

(from LonelyPlanet.com)

Transdniestr
Transdniestr has been a thorn in the side of the Moldovan government since the predominately Russian republic was first formed in 1991. Separatist rebels, with the blessings and wherewithal of the Russian military, have been stirring the pot ever since. It is a self-declared republic with Tiraspol as its capital city and its own currency, army, media and police force, but Transdniestr really started looking like it had slipped down a rabbit hole when it began drawing imaginary borders and protecting them with (unofficial) border guards holding (real) guns. It also elected its own president, Igor Smirnov, and you don't get any more Russian than that.

Nearly two-thirds of Transdniestr citizens are elderly and impoverished and long for the good old days of Soviet rule when the quality of life was so much better. These days they would find life tough under any form of government, but trying to establish an independent republic has put an added strain on resources. Rampant inflation, a currency that is next to worthless, low wages, the collapse of the Russian economy and soaring debts have put Transdniestr behind the economic eight ball. Nevertheless it's worth a visit. It's a walking, talking, breathing mausoleum of Stalinist-style government; the Iron Curtain in Transdniestr hasn't been demolished as much as drawn back a little for a cautious peek outside. There are no golden arches, Coca-Cola signs or funky cafés selling double decaf-cafs here. It's all peasant pragmatism and Stalinist utilitarianism. And they don't go much for US travellers either.

It's actually quite expensive for a foreigner to spend time in Transdniestr because of the three-tiered pricing system. In the topsy-turvy world of Transdniestrian logic, even asking questions at the information desk will cost you money! There are a number of buses every day that do the 70km (40mi) trip between Chisinau and Tiraspol, and two per day between Comrat and Tiraspol. Transdniestr has just announced that all foreign visitors will need to register with the police within three hours of arrival and pay a US$10 fee. In a powerful bit of brinkmanship this includes Moldovan nationals whom they define as 'foreign'.

timbaly
17th September 2003, 00:44
Is San Marino a socialist nation? A friend(goes by the name andresG here on che-lives)of mines teacher told him that it voted to become socialist but he wasn't sure if it still is socialist or how socialistic it was.

Don't Change Your Name
17th September 2003, 00:49
Zimbabwe

CubanFox
17th September 2003, 01:50
Zimbabwe is just a dictatorship. Not sure about San Marino.

Yazman
17th September 2003, 02:09
San Marino in the CIA Factbook: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbo...ok/geos/sm.html (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sm.html)

Government type:
independent republic

It says nothing about socialism, though it IS a CIA site.

Umoja
17th September 2003, 02:11
Libya.

Dr. Rosenpenis
17th September 2003, 02:39
Angola is socialist, no?

Red Flag
17th September 2003, 04:12
alot of people that are socialist or communist, why not move to these countrys?

timbaly
17th September 2003, 20:18
Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 09:09 PM
San Marino in the CIA Factbook: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbo...ok/geos/sm.html (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sm.html)

Government type:
independent republic

It says nothing about socialism, though it IS a CIA site.
The information is so basic, they do however mention2 socialist and one communist party as main parties in the country.

Severian
17th September 2003, 21:04
The thing to look at is the economy, property relations, etc., not the ideological label on the party in power at the moment.

That goes both ways. I'd argue that stable capitalist property relations have not been successfully reestablished anywhere between Poland and China.

timbaly
18th September 2003, 02:57
The only thing under economics is that it is a prosperous region similar to the wealthiest areas in Italy. It also mentions it makes a lot of money from tourism.

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
18th September 2003, 15:42
how about Yemen?

crazy comie
18th September 2003, 17:33
no country has ever been communist.

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
19th September 2003, 11:50
Originally posted by crazy [email protected] 18 2003, 05:33 PM
no country has ever been communist.
a random fact, as seen as this thread is looking at anti capitalist countries.

crazy comie
19th September 2003, 15:11
sorry

FistFullOfSteel
19th September 2003, 15:19
aye U.S is 110% cappie bullshit..

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
19th September 2003, 15:36
Originally posted by crazy [email protected] 19 2003, 03:11 PM
sorry
lol, sorry m8, i sounded harsh, it just annoyed me

FistFullOfSteel
19th September 2003, 15:40
:D

BRIN
20th September 2003, 08:35
Is mongolia a socialist state?

strike any where
20th September 2003, 14:38
Vietnam?