View Full Version : Red Dawn remake changes villains from Chinese to North Koreans
Red Commissar
19th March 2011, 20:46
http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/mgms-red-dawn-remake-will-have-north-korea-as-revised-villain/
I don't know. Speculation abound whether MGM made the change to make it more marketable in China, or if NK makes a better "villain" for certain groups here. Could be both too. I guess now Homefront shares another similarity with the remake now.
I think it won't save it from bombing in the box office though.
Horrible as it is, I so want to see the original Red Dawn...
Robespierre Richard
19th March 2011, 21:00
Did the producers basically all play the game Homefront and change their minds?
Really it sounds like the movie will just go into development hell.
Nothing Human Is Alien
19th March 2011, 21:03
Didn't see the original, won't see this.
It is mildly comical that a movie about "Communist China" invading the USA is being changed to be more marketable in capitalist China.
Pirate Utopian
19th March 2011, 21:06
Maybe they should change the title to Homefront.
coda
19th March 2011, 21:12
ahhh.. I was a teen when it came out and somehow oddly was able to miss it. Funny, all the reactionary propaganda i was able to dodge in the 80's!!! Funny also how pop culture seeps through whether you want it to or not. The original was with the Soviet Union, wasn't it? I know this because Everything in the 80's was about the SU!!!
Dimmu
19th March 2011, 21:26
Pathetic..
But this will be an easy undertaking.. Just replace some computer made scenes of Chinese troops with NK troops, damn they are both asians, not much needs to be changed..
But on the other hand, i would like to know how NK invaded USA in that movie..
Nothing Human Is Alien
19th March 2011, 21:41
Didn't you know? The DPRK has thousands of troops amassed along the US border. Oh wait, that's the other way around.
PhoenixAsh
19th March 2011, 21:46
Horrible as it is, I so want to see the original Red Dawn...
:laugh: I had so much fun with my non-commie friends watching that movie....each and every one hates Swayze with a vengeance... so we were all rooting for the Russians.
But its shit... enjoyable shit. But shit non the less.
NGNM85
19th March 2011, 21:55
This makes absolutely no sense to me. The original Red Dawn was a terrible film, whose only saving grace was a kind of kitsch value, as a relic of the Cold War. However, even when it was released, it was an anachronism. The decision to remake it, today, is incomprehensible. I am perplexed by the rash of Hollywood reboots (Most of which have been atrocious.) over the past few years. (Which are themselves, symptomatic of the cultural poverty of the times.) Most of the rebooted properties were of dubious value to begin with. (A-Team, Dukes of Hazzard, etc.) even in the case of shows with some redeeming value, like the Mod Squad this is perplexing. First of all the 'reboot'(s) are total dogshit and mangle the original properties (Some of which weren't worth watching to begin with.) nearly beyond all recognition. Second, the kids who are going to see these films have never seen the A-Team or the Mod Squad, and have no knowledge of, or attachment to, these properties.
PhoenixAsh
19th March 2011, 21:57
has anybody heard of the game Homefront? It has been relased in the last couple of weeks.
The story there is....the son of Kim Jung Il takes over after he dies and manages to reunite Korea and take over with the communist party to build the largest and most powerful industry of the world. The dollar collapses and there is civil unrest in the US. The Us is forced to pull back its military from the Asian continent to reestablish order at home and because they can not fund their operations and facilities there.
Because of the collaps of teh dollar and becuae of the troop pull back...Japan surrenders to Korea....and in the years to come Korea annexes large parts of Asia while the US struggles with civil unrest and deepening financial crisis.
The Koreans then launch a satelite which delivers a nation wide EMP to continental US and invades...first Hawaii and then San Fransisco
Not far fetched at all:rolleyes:
:D
Pirate Utopian
19th March 2011, 22:04
The original Red Dawn is fucking swag though.
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Magón
19th March 2011, 22:28
I never understood the ending of the original Red Dawn, probably because I fell asleep halfway through and woke up when everyone was getting shot to hell, and then the end came and I didn't understand what the monument things was for.
Psy
19th March 2011, 22:37
I never understood the ending of the original Red Dawn, probably because I fell asleep halfway through and woke up when everyone was getting shot to hell, and then the end came and I didn't understand what the monument things was for.
From what I remember it was a monument for the battle that took place there.
Sir Comradical
19th March 2011, 22:44
Horrible as it is, I so want to see the original Red Dawn...
I cheered for the Red Army. lulz.
Ocean Seal
19th March 2011, 22:53
Wait wait wait a minute. What image of North Korea is the United States trying to sell?
On one hand CNN tells us that they're very poor and that they need foreign aid just to stay on track.
But what this movie tells us is that if North and South Korea were to unite under socialism they would make the most powerful nation on the planet all the while the United States is suffering because of its backwards economic system. So in other words, a socialist economy is outdoing a capitalist economy, and the socialist economy invades the former leading capitalist one.
But guys lets just remember that an invasion of the United States is completely humanitarian. You see there was a lot of disorder, and Civil unrest in the United States so North Korea came in to establish democracy, and order. Because that's what the leader of the free world North Korea stands for. It is entirely humanitarian. Glove's on the other hand.
/sarcasm
I hope that this helps Americans notice that it really sucks to get invaded. So stop doing it to other people damn it, and stop claiming that you're doing it for the good of the people that you invade.
Magón
19th March 2011, 22:56
Why do half the people in that group photo, still look like they're dressing from the 80s?
Nothing Human Is Alien
19th March 2011, 22:58
Why do half the people in that group photo, still look like they're dressing from the 80s?
Because the United States will be liberated by hipsters.
Magón
19th March 2011, 23:10
Because the United States will be liberated by hipsters.
AH MAN!!! :ohmy: THIS IS BOUND TO BE A CULT CLASSIC THEN!!!! :drool:
coda
20th March 2011, 00:58
<<Why do half the people in that group photo, still look like they're dressing from the 80s?">>
That''s the grungy 90's! -- the 80's was Big hair and mullets!!!
Ismail
20th March 2011, 01:11
I watched Red Dawn. Three times, in fact. Two of those with friends.
These two clips sum up the movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DprFYMvWXLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoM6IFiyRjE
Just a lot of evil Soviet Russians getting shot, and occasionally (as in first clip) some not too bright anti-communists die at the hands of evil Soviet Russians.
If you couldn't tell, it isn't a good movie.
Tim Finnegan
20th March 2011, 01:13
ahhh.. I was a teen when it came out and somehow oddly was able to miss it. Funny, all the reactionary propaganda i was able to dodge in the 80's!!! Funny also how pop culture seeps through whether you want it to or not. The original was with the Soviet Union, wasn't it? I know this because Everything in the 80's was about the SU!!!
Also Cuba, because, if there's one aspect of Cuban foreign policy we're familiar with, it's their ruthless expansionism! ;)
I hope that this helps Americans notice that it really sucks to get invaded. So stop doing it to other people damn it, and stop claiming that you're doing it for the good of the people that you invade.
Nah, this is a nation that managed to strip the anti-imperialist subtext out of War of the Worlds- there's no way they're going to insert one, even accidentally, into a remake of a chest-thumpingly nationalistic fantasy like this.
Tim Finnegan
20th March 2011, 01:17
I hope that this helps Americans notice that it really sucks to get invaded. So stop doing it to other people damn it, and stop claiming that you're doing it for the good of the people that you invade.
Nah, this is a nation that managed to strip the anti-imperialist subtext out of War of the Worlds- there's no way they're going to insert one, even accidentally, into a remake of a chest-thumpingly nationalistic fantasy like this.
Psy
20th March 2011, 03:21
Wait wait wait a minute. What image of North Korea is the United States trying to sell?
On one hand CNN tells us that they're very poor and that they need foreign aid just to stay on track.
But what this movie tells us is that if North and South Korea were to unite under socialism they would make the most powerful nation on the planet all the while the United States is suffering because of its backwards economic system. So in other words, a socialist economy is outdoing a capitalist economy, and the socialist economy invades the former leading capitalist one.
What image of the USA armed forces are they trying to sell, with the US military unable to repel an occupation of North Korea, this would be like Russia unable to repel an invasion and occupation from Georgia.
PhoenixAsh
20th March 2011, 06:10
Well...then we definately know its a republican who funded the movie :D
THey hardly wish to cut on military budget...instead they seem to want to increase the budget.
Dimentio
20th March 2011, 15:54
has anybody heard of the game Homefront? It has been relased in the last couple of weeks.
The story there is....the son of Kim Jung Il takes over after he dies and manages to reunite Korea and take over with the communist party to build the largest and most powerful industry of the world. The dollar collapses and there is civil unrest in the US. The Us is forced to pull back its military from the Asian continent to reestablish order at home and because they can not fund their operations and facilities there.
Because of the collaps of teh dollar and becuae of the troop pull back...Japan surrenders to Korea....and in the years to come Korea annexes large parts of Asia while the US struggles with civil unrest and deepening financial crisis.
The Koreans then launch a satelite which delivers a nation wide EMP to continental US and invades...first Hawaii and then San Fransisco
Not far fetched at all:rolleyes:
:D
The Dollar collapse isn't that unrealistic.
It would be more realistic though if the film was about struggling against a domestic Military Dictatorship in the USA.
Comrade_Stalin
21st March 2011, 03:38
This makes absolutely no sense to me. The original Red Dawn was a terrible film, whose only saving grace was a kind of kitsch value, as a relic of the Cold War. However, even when it was released, it was an anachronism. The decision to remake it, today, is incomprehensible. I am perplexed by the rash of Hollywood reboots (Most of which have been atrocious.) over the past few years. (Which are themselves, symptomatic of the cultural poverty of the times.) Most of the rebooted properties were of dubious value to begin with. (A-Team, Dukes of Hazzard, etc.) even in the case of shows with some redeeming value, like the Mod Squad this is perplexing. First of all the 'reboot'(s) are total dogshit and mangle the original properties (Some of which weren't worth watching to begin with.) nearly beyond all recognition. Second, the kids who are going to see these films have never seen the A-Team or the Mod Squad, and have no knowledge of, or attachment to, these properties.
This may not be a shock to you, but hollywood does not have a lot of original ideals, look at how many spy movies came out at the same time. So they just reboot any thing they can find, to sell to us. That what happens when you can get a ideal for free form a movie that is to old to have been seen by those buying the tickits these days.
Rooster
21st March 2011, 03:42
This movie is going to be really silly. The original only got by in the 80s because... well... it was the 80s. I can't even begin to imagine this being revamped. Maybe they should also remake Airwolf while they're at it.
Pretty Flaco
21st March 2011, 04:08
Yeah, just digitally change those uniforms... all asians look the same right? Korea, China, Japan, Indonesia... SAME PLACE.
Agent Ducky
21st March 2011, 04:10
I saw the middle of the original Red Dawn. I was like "GO RUSSIANS!"
Tim Finnegan
21st March 2011, 04:13
Yeah, just digitally change those uniforms... all asians look the same right? Korea, China, Japan, Indonesia... SAME PLACE.
Let's just call it "Chipandonea" to save time.
Psy
21st March 2011, 04:26
This movie is going to be really silly. The original only got by in the 80s because... well... it was the 80s. I can't even begin to imagine this being revamped. Maybe they should also remake Airwolf while they're at it.
Yet the original inspired the story of the game World In Conflict.
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Why can't we get a movie adaption of World In Conflict instead?
Apoi_Viitor
21st March 2011, 04:47
At least it's not Russia. I mean after the Soviet Union collapsed, Hollywood had no fucking idea what to do. They would just write ridiculous plot lines about how the evil communists were able to find their way back into power... But now, hopefully we can look forward to over a decade of stereotypical plot lines, where the peace and freedom loving Americans are pitted against the bloodthirsty communists.
crazyirish93
21st March 2011, 04:56
world in conflict has by far a better story even if it is still biased.
Agent Ducky
21st March 2011, 05:42
It's one of those movies that really oughtta stay in the '80s....
hardlinecommunist
21st March 2011, 18:41
Didn't you know? The DPRK has thousands of troops amassed along the US border. Oh wait, that's the other way around. It is most definitely the other way around
The Vegan Marxist
21st March 2011, 19:50
Now all the North Koreans need to do is start making video games and make an even more accurate portrayal of US imperialism. :thumbup1:
Magón
22nd March 2011, 15:25
<<Why do half the people in that group photo, still look like they're dressing from the 80s?">>
That''s the grungy 90's! -- the 80's was Big hair and mullets!!!
Blond chick with the headband etc., and the white guy with the vest next to her. That's some 80s style man, the rest I agree.
GallowsBird
5th April 2011, 16:31
I read about this the other day. I thought it sounded way too hilarious for words.
As for the original, well I know who I would support if the USSR invaded the USA... Go USSR!
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