Rick Scott takes rights away from ex prisoners

[RGacky3]

Rick Scott wants to take away voting rights for ex prisoners for 5 after they're out and violent criminals for after 7 years (I'll have to double check the numbers), but remember when the republicans put out ads trying to convince latinos not to vote? They were the ones in history pushin for poll taxes, pushing for property requirements, recently they were the ones trying to add more conditions to voting.

Why? Because republicans hate democracy, they don't wnat people to vote, they know thier policies are corporatist and not actually popular, thats why they do well with low voter turnout.

[Bud Struggle]

Here in Florida they also are taking away the prisoners right to smoke. In six months the prisons will be smoke free.

Why? bacause Republicans hate second hand smoke, they don't want people to smoke.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-prison-smoking-banned-20110314,0,5487892.story

[RGacky3]

Why? bacause Republicans hate second hand smoke, they don't want people to smoke.


Really ... Is that so, because republicans have ALWAYS been worrired about protecting peoples health.

[Bud Struggle]

Really ... Is that so, because republicans have ALWAYS been worrired about protecting peoples health.

I was kidding a bit--but you are right they are clamping down on prisoners here. There's a whole attitude I'm seeing in the prison that I volenteer in. The guards are getting harsher.

[RGacky3]

Its the republican philosophy of crush the poor, take away rights from the poor and lower classes, take away opportunities for them and so on, more and more people in prison, more and more targeting minorities and the poor, and less opportunities and rights for those people.

[Fulanito de Tal]

Rick Scott wants to take away voting rights for ex prisoners for 5 after they're out and violent criminals for after 7 years

What reasons has he given for this? What does he expect will happen?

[Bud Struggle]

What reasons has he given for this? What does he expect will happen?

They are just being bastards--no real reasons needed.

[Viet Minh]

What reasons has he given for this? What does he expect will happen?

The US has a higher population percentage in jail than anywhere else (I believe) so it would make a huge difference to the system. Not to mention the higher percentage of latino and african americans in jail who would tend to vote democrat. Basically its gerrymandering, there is not other good reason. When a prisoner has served their sentence, they should be given their full rights as a citizen.

[RGacky3]

Its not only percentage, its actual NUMBERICAL population, yeah, the US has numerically more in prison than China, its about 1% now, and around 1 out of 32 are in the justice system (on parroll, or whatever).

This is absolutely nothing more than undermining democracy. (in my opinions prisoners should have voting rights).

[Viet Minh]

Its not only percentage, its actual NUMBERICAL population, yeah, the US has numerically more in prison than China, its about 1% now, and around 1 out of 32 are in the justice system (on parroll, or whatever).

This is absolutely nothing more than undermining democracy. (in my opinions prisoners should have voting rights).

I would be slightly scpetical of prisoners voting, as soon as a prisoner is released they should have voting rights of course, but whilst serving their term I don't believe they should. The reason is because of current demographics prisoner populations make up a significant proportion in some counties, even states, so that could be abused to push extremist agendas, for instance racist white prison gangs voting in white nationalists. Don't underestimate the numbers, 1 in 32 doesn't sound much but in some states its much higher, and then you take into account the numbers who don't vote at all. Its also a personal issue for instance some fatcat conned people out of money, and goes to jail, I personally don't feel he or she has a right to decide my future in any way for the period of their incarceration. I'm not 100% against prisoner voting rights under any circumstances just not absolutely sure its the right move.

[Le Libérer]

Here in Louisiana, Jindal has re-established voting rights to felons. If they are no longer on paper, they can take said documents to the voters registrar and get a voters card.

I think hes seen so many of his friends indicted on racketeering charges, he needs the votes.