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The Feral Underclass
15th September 2003, 21:06
I am beginning to loose heart comrades....everyday I have to defend my beliefs against people, who quite frankly are too stupid for me to care about. People claim without the shadow of a doubt that Marxism, Communism and Anarchism just could not work without even picking up a book. How can you argue against people who refuse to even read the smallest communist literature. I am sick and tired of having to argue the same argument everyday with people who dont even care. People who have lost all faith in humanity. People who have no idea what materialism means, who can't even spell communism, yet belief enfatacally that it could never work.

aaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am so annoyed with human beings that I could just easily become a capitalist and say "fuck them - let them all rot". I want to bury my head in the sand and pretend that the world is a nice place...i dont want to care about capitalism...i dont want to want to change the world. I dont want to be an anarchist, I dont want to have a conscious. I dont want to know who Marx is...i want to want to buy mcdonalds and wear gap clothes, i want to not care about africa, i want to not have principles, I dont want to know who the palestinians are or what the paris commune was. I am tired of being objective...and I hate logic!

.....................maybe I should join the the Liberal party........... :ph34r:

Comrade Ceausescu
15th September 2003, 21:15
comrade,never give up.i too have been and am in your situation.my father lived in communist hungary,hated it,and escaped.i have to defend myself against him whenever i see him.there are many others who i have to fight.sometimes i feel so exhausted by it all,like i am carrying an thousand pound bag of bricks on my back.i feel like becoming a right wing capitalist again.why?because its easy.but many learn the hard way,the easy road is not neccasserily the best.the only accomplishment you get out of it is that its easy.stay strong and keep your head up.

Ctisphonics
15th September 2003, 22:10
Welcome Commrade! We've missed you, all your cradit cards are waiting for you! I'll be down by the Baby Gap in the mall, we can go shopping, eat out at some expensive resturant (remeber, don't tip the waitress unless she flashes us), egg old people, ect. Then we can make fun of poor people, then act like we don't see or hear the Salvation Army guy outside the door when we leave.

This is sooooo great! Capitalism wins! Capitalism wins! Capitalism wins! :o

sc4r
15th September 2003, 22:37
Take joy from opposition. Feel good that you understand something they dont. Of course yoi can chieve greater material prfgit from becoming exactly like them given that they rule the world. But what would you feel in your heart , in your soul if you did. Forever you would feel 'I sold out'.

And know something you would not have ANMYTHING as compendsation. I've been rich(ish); I've been poor(no ish); I've been in-between. It makes no real difference; you still either enjoy life or you do not.

My oen view is that is it is plain dumb to play at being a miserable socialist. So I'll happily take their money off them and laugh at their ignorance while I do it. Of course I recognise that my somewhat unconventional view of how to live life in a cpaitalist woterld as a socialist will be not satisty the more puritcanical of the socialist faithful; tough tits, I'm in this world exactly once I intend to enjoy it AND/ WHILE pushing for a better future for my children.

Bottom line - Love life, Live it, Take it from the cappies, have no regrets about doing so, Do what you can to push socialism, laugh at their ignorance, howl as you (a dumb commie) extract their cappie dollars from their wallets.

Do not give a fuck as they tell you that you ought not be like that as a socialist. Tell em to their faces 'I would not do it to a socialist' :)

Cheer up mate, learn not to let the basard grinfd you down and learn that you are as important as anybody else on the planet. Learn to love opposition.

BUT NEVER, EVER, BE A TRAITOR. LEARN TO RISK ANYTHING TO STAY FAITHFUL TO YOUR REAL FRIENDS.

Go N-eiri an Bothar Leat.

redstar2000
16th September 2003, 00:36
There's a thing about arguing with people who are not really interested in what you have to say.

It's like trying to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

If the political work you're trying to do proves unproductive and frustrating, change it. Try something different.

Perhaps even very different. People are not particularly receptive at this point in history to "out of the blue" discussions on serious political questions. That will change.

At present, you must seek out those few who are at least curious about alternatives. Their numbers may be small but they are willing to listen. Over time, those numbers will grow.

I know that sounds like "small beans" to some folks--especially those who have daydreams of parliamentary or democratic centralist "glory" and just can't wait to take their "place in the spotlight".

Let them have it, for what it is "worth".

The present task of real communists is to slowly increase our numbers--and, even more, increase the presence of our ideas in society at large. The best way to do this, where opportunities are present, is to encourage active resistance to the "legal norms" of the existing system...which always favor the ruling class, of course.

But even where opportunities for direct action don't exist, anonymous propaganda is always a practical proposition. Anyone can produce a small poster with a simple message and paste it on a wall.

Just as anyone can post a message and a link on a message board (there are more than 100,000 of them and the number increases daily).

And then let time--and the "laws" of capitalism itself--do their work.

They will.

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The RedStar2000 Papers (http://www.sawu.org/redstar2000)
A site about communist ideas

commie kg
16th September 2003, 00:38
Stop even mentioning your views to them. That's what I've done, I only mention them when I get really heated up.

The Feral Underclass
16th September 2003, 11:38
If only we had a big magic wand!

Fidelbrand
16th September 2003, 14:42
Libertarian Commie, we are with u ... u r not alone~ u should feel proud of being the meager bunch who are awakened.

i dont give a shit abt what others think .. really. :D