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The Vegan Marxist
16th March 2011, 06:43
Minnesota Republicans say: Poor people with money should be outlaws
By Staff | March 15, 2011

St. Paul, MN Minnesota Republicans are pushing legislation that would make it a crime for people on public assistance to have more $20 in cash in their pockets any given month. This represents a change from their initial proposal, which banned them from having any money at all.

On March 15, Angel Buechner of the Welfare Rights Committee testified in front of the House Health and Human Services Reform Committee on House File 171. Buechner told committee members, We would like to address the provision that makes it illegal for MFIP [one of Minnesotas welfare programs] families to withdraw cash from the cash portion of the MFIP grant - and in fact, appears to make it illegal for MFIP families to have any type of money at all in their pockets. How do you expect people to take care of business like paying bills such as lights, gas, water, trash and phone?

House File 171 would make it so that families on MFIP - and disabled single adults on General Assistance and Minnesota Supplemental Aid - could not have their cash grants in cash or put into a checking account. Rather, they could only use a state-issued debit card at special terminals in certain businesses that are set up to accept the card.

The bill also calls for unconstitutional residency requirements, not allowing the debit card to be used across state lines and other provisions that the Welfare Rights Committee and others consider unacceptable.

Buechner testified, Well leave you with this. It is not right to punish a whole group because of the supposed actions of a few. You in this room could have a pretty rough time if that was the case. It is not right to stigmatize and dehumanize women living the hard life of trying to raise children while living 60% below the poverty level. It is not right to use racist, bumper-sticker hate to inflict human misery for political gain.

http://www.fightbacknews.org/2011/3/15/minnesota-republicans-say-poor-people-money-should-be-outlaws

Nolan
16th March 2011, 06:57
First they shove it in women's uteruses. Now they're putting it in people's pockets.

Kids, the moral of the story is that small government fits in places it shouldn't.

Hoplite
16th March 2011, 09:43
Ok, I dont get it. Public assistance is supposed to help people keep food on the table and a roof over their heads while they get back on their feet...so...how do they expect people to get OFF public assistance if they cant have any money....

Are Republicans on smack? On what world does this seem like a good idea?

Mather
16th March 2011, 17:03
Fucking disgusting!

Yet the Republicans will keep banging on about "small government" whilst having that very same government regulate people in ways most other countries don't. Also, these companies that are going to be given a monopoly on where and what people can spend their public assistance on, how many of them have had a hand in this disgusting proposal?

Robocommie
16th March 2011, 17:39
This is insane. Lately it seems like every other day I read about some Republican-backed legislation that is absolutely a parody of itself.

Tim Finnegan
16th March 2011, 17:52
Jesus, when are they just going to cut to the chase and reintroduce the poorhouses? S'where they're heading, one way or the bloody other.

Princess Luna
16th March 2011, 18:00
oh oh, i have a better idea why not just make it a crime to be poor , anybody who makes below $50,000 a year will be rounded up and put into forced labor camps for the benefit of their betters, Ayn Rand would be so proud :crying:

Jeraldi
16th March 2011, 18:20
since they don't seem to look at the constitution these days when writing laws these days, they should just abolish the constitution and then we invoke the state of constant revolution that we were promised by the founding fathers.

Nolan
16th March 2011, 18:21
oh oh, i have a better idea why not just make it a crime to be poor , anybody who makes below $50,000 a year will be rounded up and put into forced labor camps for the benefit of their betters, Ayn Rand would be so proud :crying:

Ayn Rand would probably not like stuff like this.

Nothing Human Is Alien
16th March 2011, 20:22
oh oh, i have a better idea why not just make it a crime to be poor , anybody who makes below $50,000 a year will be rounded up and put into forced labor camps for the benefit of their betters, Ayn Rand would be so proud :crying:

They have something like that.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4103/prisonfd.jpg

Os Cangaceiros
16th March 2011, 22:52
^what's interesting about that is the fact that the national crime rate has declined since the mid-90's, yet incarceration rates continue to climb. I wonder if it has anything at all to do with the introduction of private prisons in the mid-80's. America is an extremely punitive society anyway, but then when you add "free market" solutions into the mix...


Here's the way a private prison works. You pay somebody to build a fancy cage. Then you fill it up as far as you can get it. Which is pretty full...full of people that the people who built the cage get paid 40 or 50 thousand dollars a year to just keep in the cage. Now if you've got 5,000 people in your cage and you're being paid 40,000 bucks a year for them, that's a lot of money, and, if on top of that, you can use them as your private property, chattel property, which you can then make do work, or make produce things that you get paid for on top of that, what a great deal. Now, where I come from, when you transform a person into a piece of property, that's called slavery.

Kibbutznik
17th March 2011, 08:24
They're making all sorts of friends in Wisconsin. I'd like to think that if this fascist crap were passed, the cops would refuse to enforce it.

Amphictyonis
17th March 2011, 08:28
This is insane. Lately it seems like every other day I read about some Republican-backed legislation that is absolutely a parody of itself.

While the Democrats act offended and cut massive amounts from public healthcare, public assistance, education, disability, government jobs, government pay etc all while adding hundreds of billions to the war effort. Good cop bad cop routine.

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Ocean Seal
17th March 2011, 22:03
The rationale here is that if you're getting state aid you shouldn't have any money. Fair enough. How does this sound?

Everyone who received bailout money should not be allowed to have any assets at all. In fact, I say take the salary of every company executive and replace it with a debit card that'll give them $800 a month. Oh oh, and it should only be able to be used in certain places. In addition, their homes/stocks/bonds should be immediately seized by the government, and if they attempted to buy any of these kinds of things they should be thrown in a privatized jail where they will be forced to work at minimum wage. Actually, slavery's not illegal according to the constitution so they should just work there for free. Violates their freedom you say? I think not... I mean the Constitution is the greatest work ever written by man and any attempt to say anything against it would make one a flag burning Commy-Nazi. So any criticism to this law is a clear attempt to take away America's freedoms. [Insert Thomas Jefferson quote here].

Also remember to tell the police to be as violent as possible during the arrest and that illegal searches are okay. Remember just claim that they were 'resisting arrest,' they always get away with it.