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Wanted Man
14th March 2011, 22:30
We need a national dna data base says police chief

Monday 14 March 2011

Every Dutch national should hand over a sample of their dna for inclusion in a national data bank to help solve crime, Rotterdam police chief Frank Pauw says in Monday’s Telegraaf.

At the moment, only people suspected of crimes with a jail sentence of at least four years have to hand over dna. The Dutch forensic institute data bank now contains the dna of 11,000 people.

‘If you want to make the world safer, there is a price to pay,’ Pauw is quoted as saying.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/03/we_need_a_national_dna_data_ba.php


Big brother DNA databank proposal rejected

By News Desk
Created 14 March 2011 17:44

A suggestion by Rotterdam police chief Frank Paauw to store the DNA of the whole Dutch population to solve crime has led to a numerous reactions from politicians and the public in the Netherlands. Many of the reactions were voiced via Twitter.

At the moment, DNA can only be taken from suspects who are taken into custody for crimes which carry a sentence of at least four years.

Justice Minister Ivo Opstelten called the idea disproportional, as "Only a small proportion of the population is responsible for crime." He believes there should be a balance between the justice system and privacy and creating a DNA database for the whole population would not be in balance. He called the proposed measure unnecessary.

MPs were also quick to distance themselves from the radical proposal to create a huge DNA databank.

Green Left MP Tofik Dibi says, investigation powers to take DNA should only be reserved for possible culprits of crime and not for unsuspecting members of the public.

On Twitter, VVD MP Jeanine Hennis wrote she was irritated by the police chief's comments, she accused him of having tunnel vision.

Democrats D66 leader Alexander Pechtold twittered, "Police chief shooting from the hip. Can't wait until his next New Year's speech."

Rotterdam Mayor Ahmed Aboutaleb, who is also head of the police in the Rotterdam-Rijnmond region, is also against the idea. He supports the current system. Nevertheless he did call the police chiefs comments "a useful contribution to the discussion on the limits of use of DNA".

The tweets (#AlleNederlanders) even managed to become a worldwide trending topic. Most of the tweets were negative.

(nc)

© Radio Netherlands Worldwide

http://www.rnw.nl/english/print/325058

"What's wrong? Have you got something to hide???"

Delenda Carthago
14th March 2011, 22:32
You should search about the Aris Seirinides case in Greece and how they can use DNA to trap someone.

Wanted Man
14th March 2011, 22:35
Any English-language links?

Personally, I found this pretty interesting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7341360.stm
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/03/26/phantom-killer-a-myth/police-track-DNA-of-cotton-bud-maker-for-two-years.html

Be sure to read the first link first. :lol:

PhoenixAsh
14th March 2011, 22:49
Yeah...this is pretty wrong. It makes everybody a suspect before they have done anything.

Wanted Man
14th March 2011, 22:51
Not quite related, but:

http://kexx.net/u/img3290.png

:rolleyes:

As for the DNA thing, I have two conflicting emotions:

1) "A cop who feels this way is not fit for his job. They should fucking sack him in the interest of national security."

2) "Sounds like a man with the right thinking patterns to be a cop chief. They'll probably give him a raise."

And I wouldn't trust any government with this, but certainly not one whose functionaries have repeatedly left USB sticks on the tram...