Is Daylight Savings Time Necessary?

[Pretty Flaco]

Has it become outdated? Is there any real use to it anymore?

[theblackmask]

Probably not, but I'm sure the ruling class enjoys having that level of control over our lives. I'd say its a tool of subtle psychological oppression more than anything, but thats just me :)

[Blackscare]

I don't know but it royally fucked me this morning. SO. TIRED.

[Aurorus Ruber]

I don't know but it royally fucked me this morning. SO. TIRED.

Quite. I was just sleeping away last night and then this morning I woke up and saw it was 10:30 and wondered how the hell it suddenly got so late.

[Magón]

FUCK DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME!!! That's what I say. Waking up sucked so much this morning, but whatever, least I didn't have anywhere important to go. I still hated it though.

[hatzel]

Probably not, but I'm sure the ruling class enjoys having that level of control over our lives. I'd say its a tool of subtle psychological oppression more than anything, but thats just me :)

This made me laugh, but something tells me that it wasn't actually a joke...

Would it be weird to suggest that we return to a system whereby the day, that is to say, the time between sunrise and sunset, is just split into 12 (or whatever) equal sections, that is to say hours, which vary in length according to the length of sunlight hours? That way, it will ALWAYS be 6am when the sun rises...oh? That's a shit idea? Sorry guys :blushing:

[Kenco Smooth]

Probably not, but I'm sure the ruling class enjoys having that level of control over our lives. I'd say its a tool of subtle psychological oppression more than anything, but thats just me :)

That doesn't seem just a little paranoid to you? Something tells me the capitalist class isn't sitting in their gleaming sky scrapers rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of messing with peoples minds twice every year to remind them who's boss.

[hatzel]

That doesn't seem just a little paranoid to you? Something tells me the capitalist class isn't sitting in their gleaming sky scrapers rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of messing with peoples minds twice every year to remind them who's boss.

You've clearly never been to a board meeting at a Fortune 500 company...

[Robespierre Richard]

The reactionary Kerensky government instituted daylight savings time in 1917, but Stalin got rid of it in 1930. However, the revisionist pigs brought it back in 1981. :mad:

So yes, DST is unnecessary and revisionist. And getting up an hour early for work kinda sucked I guess.

[Toppler]

DST. Fuck it.

[Sixiang]

This thread is my comic relief for the day.

[hatzel]

This thread is my comic relief for the day.

That's strange, because we're all being very serious...that must mean you're...laughing at us :crying:

[Fulanito de Tal]

Would it be weird to suggest that we return to a system whereby the day, that is to say, the time between sunrise and sunset, is just split into 12 (or whatever) equal sections, that is to say hours, which vary in length according to the length of sunlight hours? That way, it will ALWAYS be 6am when the sun rises...oh?

That would make wage labor in the winter more valuable as hours would be shorter than during the other seasons. I could imagine a workers' migration between hemispheres where people would follow the winter. :lol:

[gorillafuck]

I like it when we revert back to normal because I gain an hour of sleep but I hate it when we go into it because I lose an hour of sleep.

True facts.

[Fulanito de Tal]

I like it when we revert back to normal because I gain an hour of sleep but I hate it when we go into it because I lose an hour of sleep.

True facts.

Wow! I have never thought of that! :laugh:

EDIT: This post can be trashed. I thought it was in chit chat when I posted it.

[ComradeOm]

DST has never been overwhelmingly popular and efforts continue to this day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Summer_Time#The_Daylight_Saving_Bill_2010) to repeal it. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense in an era of electric lights IMO. I expect it to be done away with within my lifetime

[Pretty Flaco]

DST has never been overwhelmingly popular and efforts continue to this day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Summer_Time#The_Daylight_Saving_Bill_2010) to repeal it. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense in an era of electric lights IMO. I expect it to be done away with within my lifetime

Wasn't it made so that people wouldn't need to rely on candle light to work?

[hatzel]

I'll just take this opportunity to quote a friend of mine. Russian, so excuse the dodgy English:


And about our mr president, our sovereign of time (you know he removed the transition to winter time and you see, cows worry,they come from milk at different time:D)

For some reason I thought you people would want to hear this, not least so that we can all start calling the ruling class the 'sovereigns of time' :laugh:

[Marks of Capital]

I can't tell how seriously people are taking this, but Daylight Savings Time is a perfectly revolutionary ideal. By reassigning the hours, we can time-shift the day so that daylight (a natural resource) is not wasted. Instead of sleeping during well-lit parts of the day, we conquer primitive ignorance and wake up earlier. This means we use less electricity at night. This means reducing our use of coal and other non-renewable resources.

[gestalt]

Stalin got rid of it in 1930.

And here I thought he had done nothing right.

[hardlinecommunist]

Has it become outdated? Is there any real use to it anymore? Yes it is very outdated

[Zeus the Moose]

I like the falling back bit in October, but not the thing in March. I propose we just keep the October one ;)

[Agent Ducky]

Ok, so from what I've gathered we still observe it (Unless you're in Russia or some other place that doesn't observe it) to "save energy". Apparently, in the summer, in theory, if it gets dark at a later time, people won't turn on their electric lights until later on in the day... Therefore saving electricity that would otherwise be used for lights turning them on an hour earlier.

I really would like some statistical evidence that this saves any energy though, the premise doesn't sound completely sound to me...

[Sixiang]

That's strange, because we're all being very serious...that must mean you're...laughing at us :crying:

Not at all, comrade.

What I found humorous was theblackmask's avatar and subtle humor in Toppler's post (or at least I found the tone that I thought the post was in to be funny).

[hatzel]

I like the falling back bit in October, but not the thing in March. I propose we just keep the October one ;)

Moving the clock back an hour once a year...one of the least efficient modes of time travel ever devised :lol: To make it more efficient, I suggest we have 'the October one' every day...or even every hour...


And @Ducky: it's difficult to say we still observe it because of that. Particularly for those farmers up in Scotland, there's still a serious need for the clock to be suited to them, or their efficiency will drop dramatically. The fact that it also might save on energy is just a happy coincidence :)

[RATM-Eubie]

I like the longer days

[ComradeOm]

Wasn't it made so that people wouldn't need to rely on candle light to work?AFAIK it was initially introduced to save fuel and improve productivity during the lean war years of the early 20th C

[Agent Ducky]

.And @Ducky: it's difficult to say we still observe it because of that. Particularly for those farmers up in Scotland, there's still a serious need for the clock to be suited to them, or their efficiency will drop dramatically. The fact that it also might save on energy is just a happy coincidence :)[/QUOTE]

If I'm not mistaken, I think that recently (like last year or 2 years ago) the US passed some legislation that pushed the start of DST up earlier as to "save more energy/electricity" so I think at least the American legislature is still subscribing to the "saves energy" reasoning.