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brigadista
12th March 2011, 18:48
what the???

I am in the UK and wondered if any one can tell us about this nonsense.

Nolan
12th March 2011, 19:40
Ragheads are bad. They're a threat to western civilization and American democracy.

That's the gist of it.

Fulanito de Tal
12th March 2011, 20:11
I would love to be in one of the hearings and start yelling about how Muslims are the main enemy. In one of my rants, I would slip up (on purpose) and substitute Muslims with Jews.

For example
"The security of our nation, if I can even call it our nation anymore, is being hindered by terrorists! They have attacked us on our own soil and they even walk among us. Everyday, Muslims travel the streets, go to your stores, and even go to school with your children. They tried to desecrate 9/11 by placing a Mosque at the site of the World trade Center. I cannot go anywhere without one of those women wearing a rag on her head to remind me of the terror that they caused when those planes full of innocent people flew into our buildings. It is time we take our country back from these JEWS!!...errr, I mean Muslims! Sorry, I forgot this wasn't Germany in 1939...But anyway, yea, Muslims are the enemy! God bless America™!" :lol:

Jimmie Higgins
12th March 2011, 20:51
what the???

I am in the UK and wondered if any one can tell us about this nonsense.It's a witch-hunt. Yup, hearings for the department of homeland security on the question of: "Are American Muslims Doing Enough to Stop Themselves from Being Evil?". I think they call it an "Investigation on the Extent of Radicalization among American Muslims" and is a hearing designed to conflate terrorism with Muslims in general, but also specifically with activists or people involved in international solidarity campaigns and so on. It's fucking sick and hopefully be the second recent example of right-wing over-reach that gives birth to a movement or mass actions among a vilified and repressed group.

brigadista
12th March 2011, 23:55
I saw this on youtube and i know nothing about this woman but she says some good things

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Os Cangaceiros
13th March 2011, 00:08
Well, at least the guy who called it takes a firm stance against British imperialism...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_T._King#Support_for_the_IRA

lol

Robocommie
13th March 2011, 10:19
It's a witch-hunt. Yup, hearings for the department of homeland security on the question of: "Are American Muslims Doing Enough to Stop Themselves from Being Evil?". I think they call it an "Investigation on the Extent of Radicalization among American Muslims" and is a hearing designed to conflate terrorism with Muslims in general, but also specifically with activists or people involved in international solidarity campaigns and so on. It's fucking sick and hopefully be the second recent example of right-wing over-reach that gives birth to a movement or mass actions among a vilified and repressed group.

I'm just glad that we as a nation have grown up from our troubled youth and learned the lessons about witch-hunts from the McCarthy era, and the Civil Rights Movement which ended bigotry.

Jimmie Higgins
14th March 2011, 08:06
I'm just glad that we as a nation have grown up from our troubled youth and learned the lessons about witch-hunts from the McCarthy era, and the Civil Rights Movement which ended bigotry.So right. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking dangerous. I mean the same people who cry about criticism of a courthouse putting the 10 commandments in the entrance and the "attacks on traditional marriage" are raising alarms about phantom attempts to insert "Islamic law" into the constitution.

I hope their first finding from these hearings goes like this: Well after extensive research and rigorous investigation; after thousands of invasive searches and hundreds of interrogations at airports; after routine and extensive profiling of Arabs and south Asians; after dozens of attempts at infiltrating mosques and entrapping Muslims in FBI organized "terror-plots"; after freezing funds and investigating the financial records of Muslim charities and organizations... we have finally discovered a generalized suspicion and hatred of the US government among a large number of Muslim Americans.

Robocommie
14th March 2011, 08:24
Personally, I think most of this stuff is because various facets of the American establishment really miss that sense of drive and justification that was the Cold War, and so they found a new ideological enemy. Islamism is pefect because it lacks borders, it's theoretically impossible to defeat, far too vague to delineate, and there's no real risk of MAD like there was with the Soviets.

Then latch onto horrendously bad neoconservative history writing by people like Samuel P. Huntington and Francis Fukuyama and you're good to go.

Jimmie Higgins
14th March 2011, 08:42
Personally, I think most of this stuff is because various facets of the American establishment really miss that sense of drive and justification that was the Cold War, and so they found a new ideological enemy. Islamism is pefect because it lacks borders, it's theoretically impossible to defeat, far too vague to delineate, and there's no real risk of MAD like there was with the Soviets.

Then latch onto horrendously bad neoconservative history writing by people like Samuel P. Huntington and Francis Fukuyama and you're good to go.Also it's their only remaining justification for supporting Israel and continuing the occupations and imperialist interventions in the region in general. They have to at least convince some people that without the wars and without the US controlling the middle east, we'd be "over-run" and under-siege.

It's also a way to justify continuing or a ramp-up the war at home. Most people are no longer all that worried about Bin Lauden blowing up the subway in their town and many people are opposed to the continuing gulag in Git-mo... they have to justify it along with increasing surveillance of pro-Palistine and anti-war groups.

Robocommie
14th March 2011, 08:48
Bin Laden... I think it's pretty funny that the only world leader who actually seems concerned about him right now is Qaddafi. It's like that manhunt for Cobra Commander/Ernst Blofeld that the Bush administration was so fixated on isn't even a Republican talking point anymore.