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Die Neue Zeit
12th March 2011, 17:11
http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20110312-33671.html
Before undergoing a sex change to become a woman, Monika Strub was a member of Germany's neo-Nazi NPD party. But ten years later, she is running for Baden-Württemberg's state parliament for the socialist party The Left.
"I have completely broken with the NPD," Strub told German daily Süddeutsche Zeitung this week, referring to the right-wing extremist National Democratic Party (NPD). "I am a true socialist."
Strub was a member of the NPD from 2000 to 2002. Photos show "Horst Strub," as she was known in the years before her sex-reassignment surgery, with cropped hair, a beard and a bomber jacket.
Today, the 35-year old nurse and photographer named Monika Strub is campaigning for the socialist party The Left.
Strub told Süddeutsche Zeitung she is now a victim of far-right harassment, saying she has been threatened multiple times. On Thursday. Strub said her home was vandalised after NPD stickers were placed on her windows and doors.
Meanwhile, The Left party has not tried to bury Strub's political past.
Christoph Kröpel, spokesman for The Left party in the state of Baden-Württemberg, described Strub's history with the NPD as a "youthful transgression" and said she has "fundamentally changed."
He told the paper Strub had so clearly distanced herself from her former party "that there is absolutely no doubt as to her political bearing."
TheUnconventionalist
13th March 2011, 03:09
This person clearly has mental issues. One of the things I am first and foremost is a naturalist and I dislike how degeneracy and mental illness is embraced by certain leftist sects. I don't see how it is great that a man is denying his genetic nature and that some embrace his mental illness for the sake of being "progressive" or "enlightened". But I don't think humanity can progress if it denies it's nature, or enlightened is one denies their own physical reality.
Delenda Carthago
13th March 2011, 04:30
There is only 4 things that can be said about this
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Kotze
13th March 2011, 04:32
What surgery doesn't entail "denying their genetic nature", should surgery only be allowed for traffic accidents? What about laser eye surgery and heart surgery? Can't somebody's drive towards sex change have a genetic component? If somebody's reckless behaviour that leads to accidents has a genetic component, are untreated bone fractures that person's true natural form?
Delenda Carthago
13th March 2011, 04:37
This person clearly has mental issues. One of the things I am first and foremost is a naturalist and I dislike how degeneracy and mental illness is embraced by certain leftist sects. I don't see how it is great that a man is denying his genetic nature and that some embrace his mental illness for the sake of being "progressive" or "enlightened". But I don't think humanity can progress if it denies it's nature, or enlightened is one denies their own physical reality.
First of all, "nature" does not exist in the first place.There is environment, but the whole metapsysical "mother nature" thing is just as observe as the human concept on "God" or any other absolute truth humanity has discovered through its course.
That being said, there are some people that do not feel good with their bodies. Through the centuries these people would just not be happy for the rest of their lives. Today we have the ability to make them feel more confterable with their own self. There is nothing wrong with that.
That being said, shit dude.You made a "manarchist" like me talk lgbt.:lol: If you consider that people are hating me in here cause I use the word "faggot" randomly(even though with no sexist content), you should really think about reconsidering!:laugh:
RedScare
13th March 2011, 04:44
Well this was unexpected.
Lenina Rosenweg
13th March 2011, 04:46
This person clearly has mental issues. One of the things I am first and foremost is a naturalist and I dislike how degeneracy and mental illness is embraced by certain leftist sects. I don't see how it is great that a man is denying his genetic nature and that some embrace his mental illness for the sake of being "progressive" or "enlightened". But I don't think humanity can progress if it denies it's nature, or enlightened is one denies their own physical reality.
At the risk of sounding trite, "biology is not destiny". Transgenderism is not degeneracy or a mental illness. On the other hand one could make an argument that being a Nazi is.
I do not fully know this person's politics. Die Linke has been mixed and is not free from class collaborationism.There were a number of former original Nazis, not even "neo-Nazis" who were in die Grunen in the 80s.
TheUnconventionalist
13th March 2011, 05:04
At the risk of sounding trite, "biology is not destiny". Transgenderism is not degeneracy or a mental illness. On the other hand one could make an argument that being a Nazi is.
I do not fully know this person's politics. Die Linke has been mixed and is not free from class collaborationism.There were a number of former original Nazis, not even "neo-Nazis" who were in die Grunen in the 80s.
I bet this guy was a National Socialist of the Strasserian variety. They were essentially the basis for the formation of the original base of the NSDAP. Ersnt Rohm and Otto Strasser were killed in the purge of 1934 for calling for a second revolution against the Conservatives and the Industrial Elite(called for cooperative ownership of the means of production and the break up of large estates, and possible alliance with the Soviet Union). Even the NPD was started by Strasserites. It is kind of ironic that the so called successor of the NSDAP, the NPD, was formed by National Socialist dissenters essentially who rejected Hitler as being corrupted by the conservative right and the Bourgeoisie
ÑóẊîöʼn
13th March 2011, 05:38
Matter definitely exists, DNA exists, and biological makeup exists.These aren't subjective concepts, they are concrete truths, and as we learn more and more about the genetic code, the more we learn that biology, essentially one's genetic make up, determines everything.
There is much more to biology than genetics. Development and environment are just as important, and both those factors can lead to a mismatch between the brain and the rest of the body.
I never said it should be banned, but I don't think it should be applauded. But just because I don't want something banned doesn't me I love it. I won't worship men who cut off their organs on some altar I don't think they deserve
I used to have similar views, until I realised that gender and sexuality aren't issues that come packaged into neat little boxes. You would do well to learn the same.
ZeroNowhere
13th March 2011, 08:46
If one gets punched in the face and falls down, clearly this is reducible to purely genetic processes. One had a 'falling down at exactly this moment' gene, and the moment programmed in the gene just happened to be the one in which one was punched. What a coincidence.
I don't see how it is great that a man is denying his genetic nature and that some embrace his mental illness for the sake of being "progressive" or "enlightened". But I don't think humanity can progress if it denies it's nature, or enlightened is one denies their own physical reality.Did you know that we alter our biological makeup by eating and exercise? Gaia must be furious! Next thing you know, people will be dyeing their hair or something of the sort.
Os Cangaceiros
13th March 2011, 09:17
Isn't there a basis for transgenderism in a human's very early development (i.e. a biological basis)? I've never really cared to look into the subject, but I seem to remember reading material about it in another thread a while back.
Queercommie Girl
13th March 2011, 16:14
This person clearly has mental issues. One of the things I am first and foremost is a naturalist and I dislike how degeneracy and mental illness is embraced by certain leftist sects. I don't see how it is great that a man is denying his genetic nature and that some embrace his mental illness for the sake of being "progressive" or "enlightened". But I don't think humanity can progress if it denies it's nature, or enlightened is one denies their own physical reality.
I don't care about defending some former Nazi one way or another, but your opinion about transgenderism is fucking ignorant and discriminatory.
In case you don't know, I happen to be trans, and there are quite a few trans people on RevLeft. So I guess I must be "mentally ill" and "degenerate" in your eyes? :rolleyes:
You are a reactionary Social Darwinist. I guess you are one of those who believe humans should be sexually selected like livestock, huh?
Queercommie Girl
13th March 2011, 16:19
Isn't there a basis for transgenderism in a human's very early development (i.e. a biological basis)? I've never really cared to look into the subject, but I seem to remember reading material about it in another thread a while back.
There most definitely is, but frankly why does it matter? Nature is not some kind of "god" humanity must bow down to.
Marxists bow down to no "god" at all of any kind, natural, human, supernatural, whatever.
Jose Gracchus
13th March 2011, 23:26
There are also people androgen insensitivity; in other words, their XY (male) genetic makeup cannot be translated via their body's endocrine system into physical male sexuality. Their testes never descend (remaining in situ where primitive gonads become ovaries in XX genetic females) and they form a (shallow) vagina. There are literally XY women which are physically indistinguishable (some have alleged they are often more feminine and sexually attractive than the norm), from XX genetic female women.
This, combined with neurological evidence of sex archetypes, and with non-matching neurology for transsexuals, blows this vulgar genetic naturalism out of the water. It is prejudice dressed up with what the average person hears on the Internet, school, and public to pantomime medical erudition.
Die Neue Zeit
13th March 2011, 23:47
And I thought gonads was just a slang word for a place to do physical harm. Even after basic sex ed years past, one can learn something new.
GX.
14th March 2011, 00:33
Isn't there a basis for transgenderism in a human's very early development (i.e. a biological basis)? I've never really cared to look into the subject, but I seem to remember reading material about it in another thread a while back.
Well there are lots of theories for the existence of transsexualism and transgender but there is probably not one single explanation. I think it's interesting that people are so obsessed with finding some biological cause for gender variance, homosexuality, etc. but they never ask why they fit into the norm.
And really, is it okay to discriminate against people because there is no biological cause for their existence? Fuck no!
GX.
14th March 2011, 00:40
Also it sucks that I have to confront this kind of intolerant bullshit every day. The only thing I can say to theconventionalist is fuck off. That was really hurtful.
Os Cangaceiros
14th March 2011, 00:44
Well there are lots of theories for the existence of transsexualism and transgender but there is probably not one single explanation. I think it's interesting that people are so obsessed with finding some biological cause for gender variance, homosexuality, etc. but they never ask why they fit into the norm.
*shrug* I was only curious because of TU's claim that there wasn't a basis.
GX.
14th March 2011, 01:02
*shrug* I was only curious because of TU's claim that there wasn't a basis.
Ah well, there is some research which suggests that trans people have brain structure and functioning which more resembles their chosen gender than their birth assigned gender: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan.html
As far as developmental causes I think it's probably a combination of socialization and biological factors.
Sinister Cultural Marxist
14th March 2011, 08:50
This person clearly has mental issues. One of the things I am first and foremost is a naturalist and I dislike how degeneracy and mental illness is embraced by certain leftist sects. I don't see how it is great that a man is denying his genetic nature and that some embrace his mental illness for the sake of being "progressive" or "enlightened". But I don't think humanity can progress if it denies it's nature, or enlightened is one denies their own physical reality.
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Transexualism is no less "natural" simply because it means people are uncomfortable with the body they are born with. Who says that a biological man cannot "naturally" feel like he should be woman? Who said that gender is dualistic?
I hate this kind of Metaphysical Naturalism ... all the dogmatism of Catholicism with none of the moral value. If you're going to be a naturalist, don't weight it down with dumb assumptions about what it means to be a "Man" and "Woman".
Jeraldi
16th March 2011, 19:15
From a metaphysical standpoint there is one power that trumps all laws and other powers
-that is the power of the human will-
and last I checked changing ones gender falls under that category
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