Manifesto of the Magickal Order Guardia Roja de Aztlan

[teopiltzin]

Long live the shamanic cultural revolution! Long live the glorious Revolutionary Nahuallis, Long live the sacred Chol’qij calendar! Long live the broad masses of people! It is for our brothers, the proletariat, that I write this Manifesto, so that they may rise up in unison and take down goliath with one stroke. Babylon will crumble, and in its place, in the womb of the old, will be born the new. A new society will spring from the ashes of old and overtake this planet like no other force in the world. Our brothers must arm themselves to the teeth not with weapons but with spiritual knowledge, for the conquest of shamanic power and for the conquest of peoples minds. We must become fishermen of men’s souls.

But to do that we must train, train ourselves in the most arcane and ascetic arts. We must bind ourselves by blood to the occult so that we may bring new knowledge to the people. This knowledge will give them the sharpest weapon with which to attack our oppressors, not with darkness, but with blinding white light. We are the workers of light. Our fight is a fierce but peaceful one. We strive for the transformation of the spirit by the Great Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the great Creator which is Ometeotl, the dual-creator god and the supreme ruler of the universe. To him, we must pray, as well as pray to his messengers, the Great Aztec Powers.

In the name of Tonatiuh, Our Lord the Burning Sun and the true giver of life, I invoke thee too guide us on our path towards revolution. In you we have faith and in your Divine Wisdom we surrender ourselves. We humble ourselves before you, Tonatiuh, and to your brothers and sisters we humbly pray for sustenance, fulfillment, and splendor. But we are fighting a spiritual war, and the only way to transform the outcome of this fight is to train ourselves in the art of magickal power. To accomplish this task, we must first find paradigms that will aid us in transforming our consciousness to the level necessary in order to acquire true shamanic power. Through different practices such as the using the Cholq’ij, shamanic journeying, and setting up a spirit pot or nganga, we will begin to achieve what we’ve been longing for.

In order to create a magickal order of a new type, one that sustains itself on the energy of its members, we must all come together to bind the different traditions into one, which is what we call Palo Mexica. Palo Mexica is the guiding religion and ideology of the GRA and will continue to be a guiding light by which we tread upon the righteous path of liberation. Ours is a liberation of the soul and spirit. Hidden deep within the practices of Palo Mexica are the cures we seek, for with this new and revolutionary ideology we may come to understand ourselves, including our own weaknesses and our strengths.

Palo Mexica is about connecting with Creator on a level comparable to communicating with the highest spirit. You must find your spiritual guides among the Aztec gods and bind yourself to that deity in order to find yourself. The sacred Cholq’ij calendar can guide you in your choosing of a god to worship as your patron. You must learn the rituals of the Revolutionary Nahualli in order to develop yourself in the acquisition of the powers to shapeshift into animals so that your connection with the spirit world will become permanent. You will attain the strengths of your nagual and use its vision to do spiritual development work.

The Revolutionary Nahualli is influenced by the following traditions: Aztec and Maya Shamanism, Palo Mayombe, Santeria, Chaos Magick, and Mexican Curanderismo. These traditions provide a foundation on which we could build this new ideology. We must take from these different trends and practices what is relevant to the practice of Aztec god adoration and working with the lower spirits of the Aztec pantheon in order to defeat our oppressors by our sheer numbers alone. Imagine millions with the knowledge and wisdom of the Revolutionary Nahualli. We must arm their mighty hands with the spiritual power necessary to tackle down the bourgeoisie and the religion of the conquerors.

The GRA is not only a magickal order but also a revolutionary organization with ideals stemming from such influences as the Bolivarian Revolution, Prachanda Path from Nepal, and other radical movements across the planet. We are definatenly socialists, revolutionary nationalists, and believe in the idea of Aztlan. Aztlan means giving the earth back to the people it was stolen from through the Mexican-American War. We are in our spiritual homeland and reserve the right to fight for it with our magickal skill if others depended on it. We are not dogmatic about our ideals and stress a peaceful resolution to society’s ills.

The Great Aztec Powers want this land to be given back to the indigenous people of Mesoamerica. It is our duty to fulfill this task. We will not parish into the night! Our dreams will guide us and will prove prophetic, but I implore to you, rise up and take up arms in the spirit world. Wield your mighty hand. If we develop an advanced magickal consciousness in the proletariat, there’s no stopping us. In order to defeat the forces of evil in the this world, we must make councils and drumming circles in which we could learn and practice magick and shamanism.

We must build Calmemacs as schools of magick shamanism and curanderismo in order to attain a greater understanding of the Divine Wisdom of Ometeotl the Creator. These Calmecacs will be the revolutionary building blocks necessary build revolutionary actions against the bourgeoisie. We will shamanic journey in order to push forward this revolution until we topple institutional ideologies forever. We could create a force so powerful in the spirit world that every spirit on earth will want to work with these Revolutionary Nahuallias.

Palo Mexica encourages the development of new techniques in order to achieve an altered state of consciousness or trance through which you may make the movement of movements towards revolution an even greater reality. You will use your spiritual allies and totems in order to not only heal the afflictions of your fellow men, but also defend yourself from enemies with shields of power that we learn to form as we develop ourselves as nahuallis.

As the world crisis deepens, our faith in the gods still get stronger and overpower our enemies and leave them powerless to our influence. We must create an organized force that is militant enough to follow through our plans of fostering a shamanic cultural revolution that will create an environment conductive for human development by spiritual means. So then there is still hope for man as we make our way toward the New Sun in the year 2012, when the showdown will commence, we will be ready with our collective intelligence and power and we will crush you with everything we’ve got.

The Cholq’ij will connect us more with nature and we will treat the earth, Our Mother, better as it deserves to be treated. For this, we must come to power. But the nature of cultural revolution is different than political or social revolution. A cultural revolution doesn’t have to topple a government or waste its resources on fighting a real war. The cultural revolution is created in the minds of people and what we use is our minds our hearts and our voice. We will be victorious.

--Guardia Roja de Aztlan

[Revolutionair]

wow

[Bud Struggle]

That not only takes a huge amount of free time to write something like that--but you need the mindset to do that, too.

It is pretty amazing. Good for you Comrade. You are no doubt speaking of the EZLN.

I am drinking their coffee as I write this.

[Dimentio]

The militant Aztlan movement is a threat against the Chicanos living in the United States.

Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck love to illuminate movements like this, in order to foster Anti-Chicano sentiments within the white population. Movements such like these could provoke racist counter-measures from other ethnic groups.

Moreover, it is unlikely that they could win so much support.

Overally, Chicanos are economically progressive, socially conservative catholics, and not worshippers of Sun Gods.

http://www.smokepit.net/~theemperor/viking/vargsmal.html

Here we have another example of a similar mindset.

[RGacky3]

This has nothing to do with the Zapatistas.

Just some dude that reads spell books in the dark with a candle.

[Dimentio]

This is as stupid as trying to start a Jewish supremacist organisation based on Kabbalistic Mysteries in Germany in 1921.

[redsky]

Good post, Red Guard. Actually, Dimentio, energies like this won't provoke reaction because no one will much notice or care. I'm not chicano and live in a predominantly white area, true, but as you point out most chicanos are, from what I've seen and understand, indeed socially conservative. And this group doesn't sound political at all. If spiritual energies can be raised by which capitalism can be made to feel threatened then more power to them. If they don't threaten leftists, let 'em roll.

[hatzel]

Actually, Dimentio, energies like this won't provoke reaction because no one will much notice or care

I wonder if there's a reason for that...:rolleyes:

ALSO: all movements of any kind should be based on kabbalistic mysteries. My two cents. Not entirely serious, though...

[#FF0000]

you know what i think i'm just gonna stay out of this one.

[hatzel]

you know what i think i'm just gonna stay out of this one.

If there was an 'unthanks' button, or a 'me no likey', I'd hit it. We need your critical mind to assess this one, we can't be trusted to do it by ourselves...

[Dimentio]

I wonder if there's a reason for that...:rolleyes:

ALSO: all movements of any kind should be based on kabbalistic mysteries. My two cents. Not entirely serious, though...

Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh disagree, to not speak of Alex Jones.

It is the Illuminati who want to have Mexicans illegally immigrating to the USA, to steal American jobs, engage in black magic and build Aztec temples!

:lol::sneaky:

[Bud Struggle]

ALSO: all movements of any kind should be based on kabbalistic mysteries. My two cents. Not entirely serious, though...

Marx is the Golem.

If you think about it you might be able to make a case for it.



It is the Illuminati who want to have Mexicans illegally immigrating to the USA, to steal American jobs, engage in black magic and build Aztec temples!

:lol::sneaky:

Wait! The Aztecs had pyramids, the Masons had pyramids, and the EGYPTIANS had pyramids. Something is going on here and it ain't good. :D


^^^Two, yes TWO different conspiracy theories in one post!

[#FF0000]

If there was an 'unthanks' button, or a 'me no likey', I'd hit it. We need your critical mind to assess this one, we can't be trusted to do it by ourselves...

all i can think when i read the op is "this is some shadowrun shit"

[Dimentio]

Good post, Red Guard. Actually, Dimentio, energies like this won't provoke reaction because no one will much notice or care. I'm not chicano and live in a predominantly white area, true, but as you point out most chicanos are, from what I've seen and understand, indeed socially conservative. And this group doesn't sound political at all. If spiritual energies can be raised by which capitalism can be made to feel threatened then more power to them. If they don't threaten leftists, let 'em roll.

When protests hit the fan, FOX NEWS will begin to air kooks which could marginally be seen as leftists in order to hurt unions, socialists and social liberals.

That is a very good strategy.

For example, if people want more sustainability and less environmental damage, interview an anarcho-primmie on 60 minutes or the Hannity Show and let him spew out bullshit which scare off most sane people, while painting the alternatives as between the kind of industrialism we have today and his utopia.

The only ones who are winning on that are the supporters of status quo and the establishment.

The USSR were amateurs. They should occasionally have aired Solszhenitsyn on national television, and cutting his interviews so he even appeared more reactionary and patriarchal than he is, especially with his talk about "returning to pre-industrial Tsarist Russia" and that Russians "aren't as developed as Americans".

If you have an opposition, you will find a certain amount of lunatics amongst the opposition. Simply dig up the least charismatic and most crazy of them and allow them to sprout their propaganda for 30 minutes.

You will accomplish two things.

A) Freak people off, making them support the leaders instead.

B) Appear as democratic, fair 'n balanced.

So, if Anti-Mexican racism one day overtakes Islamophobia in the US, Beck will drag up someone like the OP to be interviewed on national television.

[hatzel]

Wait! The Aztecs had pyramids, the Masons had pyramids, and the EGYPTIANS had pyramids. Something is going on here and it ain't good. :D

Or maybe whatever's going on is very very good indeed. Good if you like pyramids, that is...:rolleyes:

I realise, by the way, that I shouldn't be making fun of this thread in any way, considering most of my supposedly 'political' essays usually end up as page after page after page discussing the relevance of this or that sephirah and then a load of quotes from some old rabbi, 'do not say something that cannot be understood, thinking it will be understood later' or whatever, as if that means anything :confused:

[Bud Struggle]

Dimento--you have a first rate devious mind. If you ever want to switch sides PM me. You could make millions. :D

[Nolan]

Dimentio wants to be a dictator someday.

[Bud Struggle]

Or maybe whatever's going on is very very good indeed. Good if you like pyramids, that is...:rolleyes:


A Mystical Ponzi scheme. :D

(Pyramid scheme=Ponzi scheme! Get the REALLY GREAT pun? It just was too good to let it slide by.)

[hatzel]

A Mystical Ponzi scheme. :D

(Pyramid scheme=Ponzi scheme! Get the REALLY GREAT pun? It just was too good to let it slide by.)

Yes yes, very witty...I don't even know why they're illegal, though :confused:

[Bud Struggle]

Yes yes, very witty...I don't even know why they're illegal, though :confused:

Even Capitalists think they are too Capitalistic. :rolleyes:

[Zeus the Moose]

Sounds kind of like these guys: http://www.myspace.com/prometheanworker

IIRC, the Promethean Workers Association (fka the New Aeon Socialist Movement... I know, I know...) actually came out of an ortho-Trotskyist micro-group. It's some great inspiration material for folks running future/magic mashup RPGs (aka Shadowrun and others), but as actual politics... what the fucking fuck?

[hatzel]

It's some great inspiration material for folks running future/magic mashup RPGs (aka Shadowrun and others), but as actual politics

This all seems fine to me :)

[Bud Struggle]

Sounds kind of like these guys: http://www.myspace.com/prometheanworker

IIRC, the Promethean Workers Association (fka the New Aeon Socialist Movement... I know, I know...) actually came out of an ortho-Trotskyist micro-group. It's some great inspiration material for folks running future/magic mashup RPGs (aka Shadowrun and others), but as actual politics... what the fucking fuck?

In the good old days those folks would have spawned a Hootenanny group.

[hatzel]

In the good old days those folks would have spawned a Hootenanny group.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000024YF3.03.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Obs]

I see the Aztec gods never seize to find new, intrusive ways to order me to get baked.

[OhYesIdid]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/4875046270_53dd865fe6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4875046270/)

[Nolan]

ADMINS ADMINS ITS a SPAM PIC!!!111 GIVE THEM AN INFRACTION BEFORE THE WORLD CAVES IN

[BIG BROTHER]

You know the Chicano movement in the US already has its own histories and manifesto based on the struggles they had for self-determination and against Imperialism.

Ever heard of El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan? ...sigh...

[Bud Struggle]

You know the Chicano movement in the US already has its own histories and manifesto based on the struggles they had for self-determination and against Imperialism.

Ever heard of El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan? ...sigh...

Do they dress up for the "re-enactments"?

[hatzel]

Do they dress up for the "re-enactments"?

Politics is nothing without fancy dress...

[Lt. Ferret]

What, supporting dictators and getting a terrible kill/death ratio at the alamo is something to be proud of now?

[BIG BROTHER]

Do they dress up for the "re-enactments"?

We don't do Re-Enactments.

Many of us identify with our indigenous ancestry and culture, thus we hold ceremonias (ceremonies) were we honor our ancestors, and the earth, etc

However we are also a fighting organization.

Here on California last year on March 4th we were major organizers for the Statewide Strike and Day of Action against the budget cuts to education and social services.

We also held an action demanding legalization for undocumented students on December 3rd and opposed the military attachment of the so called "dream act"

We mobilize our campuses for immigrant and workers rights on May 1st.

This year we also were the backbone of March 2nd Statwide Day of Action(a continuation from March 4th last year)

In our campus we were the ones organizing a boycott against AZ when it passed the law SB-1070.


And no, MEChA does not support Santa Ana. We are based on the principles of Chicano Nationalism, Anti-Imperialism and Self-Determination.

[Lt. Ferret]

Nationalism is disgusting.

[RGacky3]

Nationalism is disgusting.

Do you REALLY believe that Lt. Ferret?

[Summerspeaker]

The militant Aztlan movement is a threat against the Chicanos living in the United States.

No, the white supremacist nativists and the imperialist government are a threat to [email protected] in occupied territory. Casting the Aztlan movement as a hazard to [email protected] makes about as much sense as casting revolutionary leftists as a danger to the working class.


Overally, Chicanos are economically progressive, socially conservative catholics, and not worshippers of Sun Gods.

While true enough based on statistics, pronouncements of this sort both reify what is fluid and make radical [email protected] invisible.

[Lt. Ferret]

Do you REALLY believe that Lt. Ferret?


yep, and living in a country dominated by another country doesn't excuse a nationalism forming in that oppressed country.

[RGacky3]

So your not a patriot?

[BIG BROTHER]

yep, and living in a country dominated by another country doesn't excuse a nationalism forming in that oppressed country.

I have to disagree, nationalism of the oppressed here in the US, mainly the Chicano and the Black communities have resulted in the formation of revolutionary movements which act against Imperialism/Capitalism.

This also ironically gives this Nationalism an internationalist character as folks realize that the Imperialism oppressing them at home is the same one attacking other people abroad.

[RGacky3]

While true enough based on statistics, pronouncements of this sort both reify what is fluid and make radical [email protected] invisible.

As soon as I see "creative" spelling Amerikkka, [email protected], I immediatly think maoist clown.

[Dimentio]

No, the white supremacist nativists and the imperialist government are a threat to [email protected] in occupied territory. Casting the Aztlan movement as a hazard to [email protected] makes about as much sense as casting revolutionary leftists as a danger to the working class.



While true enough based on statistics, pronouncements of this sort both reify what is fluid and make radical [email protected] invisible.

Idiots like the Red Brigades and the Red Army Faction, as well as those nitwits sending mail bombs to Embassies in Greece are a threat to the working class, because they could increase the support for Fascists.

Islamists are a threat to Muslims living in Europe, since it could widen the recruitment ground for Fascists.

The Aztlan movement is a threat to the Latin American community since it is "verifying" the notions of racists, and could expand the Nativist recruitment base.

Not a direct threat, but an indirect one. Still a threat though.

[BIG BROTHER]

Idiots like the Red Brigades and the Red Army Faction, as well as those nitwits sending mail bombs to Embassies in Greece are a threat to the working class, because they could increase the support for Fascists.

Islamists are a threat to Muslims living in Europe, since it could widen the recruitment ground for Fascists.

The Aztlan movement is a threat to the Latin American community since it is "verifying" the notions of racists, and could expand the Nativist recruitment base.

Not a direct threat, but an indirect one. Still a threat though.

Just like Anarchists and Communist groups are a threat to the working class because they feed the anti-worker sentiment in the US as it gives right-wing mouthpieces reasons to suppress the workers movement?

[RGacky3]

Except Anarchists and Communist groups are not crazy bigots that worship ancient gods just because they are from some tribe.

[hatzel]

Except Anarchists and Communist groups are not crazy bigots that worship ancient gods just because they are from some tribe.

I'm sure there are a few people who might contest that statement...:rolleyes:

[RGacky3]

I'm sure there are too, and those people are wrong.

[BIG BROTHER]

Except Anarchists and Communist groups are not crazy bigots that worship ancient gods just because they are from some tribe.

I think perhaps the first post may have distorted your ideas about that the Chicano movement is all about.

So here Check out El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan

http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/mecha/archive/plan.html

or if you are down here is the Plan de Santa Barbara

http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/MEChA/st_barbara.html
http://www.nationalmecha.org/documents/EPSB.pdf

Also I considered it very chauvinistic and bigoted of you to assume that first, that if someone were to "worship the sun" they are inferior to you, or are not revolutionary.

Also there are thousands of indigenous groups, all of us which have different beliefs...so its wrong for you to assume that they all revolve around sun worship.

2nd of all we are not biggotted, we stand in solidarity with the struggle of all oppresed people across the world. As you can refer from my previous post, MEChA an organization based on Chicano nationalism has been very active in the class struggle.

[Dimentio]

Just like Anarchists and Communist groups are a threat to the working class because they feed the anti-worker sentiment in the US as it gives right-wing mouthpieces reasons to suppress the workers movement?

There is a difference. Anarchists and communists who are behaving rationally and helping workers, migrants and poors to organise are actually helping to destroy the right-wing caricature of them.

Anarchists and communists who are throwing stones are helping to verify the stereotype.

[BIG BROTHER]

There is a difference. Anarchists and communists who are behaving rationally and helping workers, migrants and poors to organise are actually helping to destroy the right-wing caricature of them.

Anarchists and communists who are throwing stones are helping to verify the stereotype.

True my friend, and what do you think Chicano militants do?

There is a reason why, no offense we have presence over 400 campuses. Something that many anarchist and communist sects will never achieve.

[Dimentio]

True my friend, and what do you think Chicano militants do?

There is a reason why, no offense we have presence over 400 campuses. Something that many anarchist and communist sects will never achieve.

I am not talking about Latin American groups in general, but about organisations such as the one described so vividly by the OP.

[BIG BROTHER]

I am not talking about Latin American groups in general, but about organisations such as the one described so vividly by the OP.

Well MEChA is founded on Chicano nationalism, just like the Raza Unida Party, and the Black and Brown berets.

Now, what the OP described is something I had never, ever heard of and it seems like a sect to me.

[RGacky3]

There are many Chicano movements, I was refering to the OPs post.


Also I considered it very chauvinistic and bigoted of you to assume that first, that if someone were to "worship the sun" they are inferior to you, or are not revolutionary.

Also there are thousands of indigenous groups, all of us which have different beliefs...so its wrong for you to assume that they all revolve around sun worship.


I did'nt say ANY of that.

[Summerspeaker]

Any revolutionary left movement could increase support for fascists because the folks who have a significant piece of the pie (or think they do) are terrified of losing their privilege.

[BIG BROTHER]

There are many Chicano movements, I was refering to the OPs post.

The movement is one thing, organizations are many, I guess that's what you mean. But yea I am not supporting OP's post, that seems like something someone who wasn't even aware about the actual real Chicano movement.


Also I considered it very chauvinistic and bigoted of you to assume that first, that if someone were to "worship the sun" they are inferior to you, or are not revolutionary.

Also there are thousands of indigenous groups, all of us which have different beliefs...so its wrong for you to assume that they all revolve around sun worship.


I did'nt say ANY of that.

Yea you did

Except Anarchists and Communist groups are not crazy bigots that worship ancient gods just because they are from some tribe.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

On one hand, I think Mexico needs a political and cultural revolution. On the other hand, I think people like the OP should focus on the rights of indigenous Mexicans who have been struggling since 500 years ago, not whether or not Chicanos or California are a part of "Aztlan" or not. Let's face it, Mexico doesn't need to refight the Mexican American war for California, however the actual indigenous cultures in Mexico do need defending from gangs, businesses and a semi-authoritarian government.

[Tim Finnegan]

ALSO: all movements of any kind should be based on kabbalistic mysteries. My two cents. Not entirely serious, though...
Druidic mysteries are better. :glare:

[RGacky3]

Yea you did


I said

"Except Anarchists and Communist groups are not crazy bigots that worship ancient gods just because they are from some tribe. "

Not that anyone is superior to anyone, nor did I say that they are not revolunionary, nor did I say that they all worship the sun.

[Astarte]

Sounds kind of like these guys: http://www.myspace.com/prometheanworker

IIRC, the Promethean Workers Association (fka the New Aeon Socialist Movement... I know, I know...) actually came out of an ortho-Trotskyist micro-group. It's some great inspiration material for folks running future/magic mashup RPGs (aka Shadowrun and others), but as actual politics... what the fucking fuck?

I was actually in the WIL http://www.socialistappeal.org/ at the same time as old "Sid" as he went by :D ... and look at me, I came out fine ;)

But when I read that essay, I did think of him, it does sound like his stuff, but I haven't spoken to him for a few years, I wasn't aware than he got into Meso-American mysticism so, ahm ... heavily?

[BIG BROTHER]

On one hand, I think Mexico needs a political and cultural revolution. On the other hand, I think people like the OP should focus on the rights of indigenous Mexicans who have been struggling since 500 years ago, not whether or not Chicanos or California are a part of "Aztlan" or not. Let's face it, Mexico doesn't need to refight the Mexican American war for California, however the actual indigenous cultures in Mexico do need defending from gangs, businesses and a semi-authoritarian government.

The concept of Aztlan goes beyond just winning back the territories Mexico lost in 1846. Is more of a deeper political symbol that gives Chicano's an identity to separate themselves from the US Imperialism.

In a sense is more of a symbol than the actual historical Aztlan or the Mexican territory lost.

[BIG BROTHER]

I said

"Except Anarchists and Communist groups are not crazy bigots that worship ancient gods just because they are from some tribe. "

Not that anyone is superior to anyone, nor did I say that they are not revolunionary, nor did I say that they all worship the sun.

Face it, you were being a smart ass and made a chauvinistic comment to try to prove your point. You were implying that unlike communist, and Anarchists, Chicano's(or to be fair maybe only OP's post) were crazy bigots thatt worship the sun.

[RGacky3]

Face it, you were being a smart ass and made a chauvinistic comment to try to prove your point.

Thats not what I was doing.

I was saying its kind of silly to have a religion that you follow ONLY because your ansestors believed and you have that creed simply due to national pride.

BTW, I am Chicano.

[Lt. Ferret]

So your not a patriot?

No, especially not based on ethnic groups or perceived past injustices. on shared values, maybe, but thats internationalism to the extreme.


I have to disagree, nationalism of the oppressed here in the US, mainly the Chicano and the Black communities have resulted in the formation of revolutionary movements which act against Imperialism/Capitalism.

This also ironically gives this Nationalism an internationalist character as folks realize that the Imperialism oppressing them at home is the same one attacking other people abroad.


forming a nationalist movement limits yourself. chicanos, blacks, and other groups, if they are oppressed need to act as one, not revert to reactionary mindsets like nationalism.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

The concept of Aztlan goes beyond just winning back the territories Mexico lost in 1846. Is more of a deeper political symbol that gives Chicano's an identity to separate themselves from the US Imperialism.

In a sense is more of a symbol than the actual historical Aztlan or the Mexican territory lost.

Why the symbol of Aztlan in particular? Doesn't the use of an old historical grudge implicitly reaffirm the imperalism of old spain and old mexico (surely, the plutocrats of mexico city never asked the pueblo indians if they wanted to be a part of Mexico)? I also wonder about the obvious connection to Indigenous Mexico ... is there a serious commitment to improving things for indigenous Mexicans, like the EZLN, or just a cheap use of their symbols?