Political Compass

[Loknar]

Here is a test on your political ideologies. Here are my results:



Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.82


As you can see I am for the most part in the center.

http://www.politicalcompass.org

[SonofRage]

been in my sig forever

[Dark Capitalist]

Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2003, 07:04 AM
Here is a test on your political ideologies. Here are my results:



Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.82


As you can see I am for the most part in the center.
So where is the link ?

[Invader Zim]

Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

Thats interesting because last time I took the test I got -4's and -5's.

[chamo]

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38

I don't know how I went more Libertarian.

[CubanFox]

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51

[Goldfinger]

Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62

[truthaddict11]

Economic Left/Right: - 9.00
Libetarian/Authoritarian: -8.56

[RAGING BULL]

Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

[Desert Fox]

I dunno what this numbers mean, but anyway

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.41

[chamo]

Those numbers mean that you're a full-on anarcho-communist, Mr. Fox.

You don't know what they mean and yet you put it in your signature?

[革命者]

Ahh, the Political Compass-- long time not mentioned.

But..

Libertarianism and Communism

WTF?

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[Dr. Rosenpenis]

uh, no chamo, he's actualy an authoritarian capitalist. The numbers are positive.

average dude, when they say libertarianism they mean the opposite of authoritarianism, not the anarcho-capitalist party.

right/left: -8.??
authoritarian/libertarian: -6.??

[革命者]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2003, 05:26 PM
uh, no chamo, he's actualy an authoritarian capitalist. The numbers are positive.

average dude, when they say libertarianism they mean the opposite of authoritarianism, not the anarcho-capitalist party.
i still think it`s a stupid test.

Who`s Average Dude? ;)

--S.

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[Guest1]

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.88

[Saint-Just]

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: +4

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

wow we must have gone 2 whole weeks without mentioning this!

[commie kg]

I'm not taking it again, but mine always come out very similar to what truthaddict just got.


Economic Left/Right: - 9.00
Libetarian/Authoritarian: -8.56

[革命者]

Originally posted by El [email protected] 14 2003, 06:57 PM
wow we must have gone 2 whole weeks without mentioning this!
quite.

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[chamo]

uh, no chamo, he's actualy an authoritarian capitalist. The numbers are positive.
Shh, you're ruining my big plan. :ph34r:

[atlanticche]

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

[elijahcraig]

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.44

[sledovatel]

Economic Left/Right: 5.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.59

-s

[kitty44]

Economic LEFT/RIGHT: -5.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21

[Babylon5 Crusade]

Economic Left/Right: 6.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.69

[BuyOurEverything]

Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74

[Indysocialist]

Economic left/right: -7.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79

I'm happy.

[IHP]

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77

A bit more radical than I had thought...

--IHP

[RedAnarchist]

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Hi,
I always seem to be very close to the bottom left-hand corner myself.


Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2003, 03:26 PM
uh, no chamo, he's actualy an authoritarian capitalist. The numbers are positive.


Well that is good, I think :blink:

[Michael De Panama]

Economic: -10.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03

[IHP]

Damn, MdP, those are some radical numbers, mate.

--IHP

[Saint-Just]

People differ in their ideologies though. Michael De Panama is near elijahcraig, however I doubt MDP is a Stalinist. Also I have the same ideology as elijahcraig but am 11 points more positive on authoritarian than him.

[Guest1]

MDP is NOT near elijahcraig... hell no. MDP is almost an anarchist. so am I.

[Saint-Just]

I mean he is near elijahcraig in terms of the political compass however he differs greatly in ideology.

[YKTMX]

I'm down near the bottom left of the little grid.

[Michael De Panama]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 16 2003, 10:15 AM
MDP is NOT near elijahcraig... hell no. MDP is almost an anarchist. so am I.
Yup.

[Saint-Just]

In terms of the political compass the two individuals I cited are near each other. Ideologically however they are very much different; one is anarchist and one a Marxist-Leninist (Stalinist). My point is that the political compass does not see these ideological differences, hardly a difficult concept to grasp.

[Guest1]

it does, that's the point of the political compass.

you have one axis for left-right economics. on which they are close. and one for up-down libertarianism. which they are definitely very far from each other on.

[Saint-Just]

Thats an interesting view. However, in this case I am referring to ideology as a specific doctrine. Elijahcraig is a Marxist-Leninist (Stalinist), Michael De Panama is by his own suggestion is 'almost an anarchist'. I would suspect you know the great differences between these ideologies.

However, in terms of the political compass the two said individuals are very close, however the traditionally labelled ideologies they follow are very much different. What I am trying to articulate here is that the political compass has not recognised this. Indeed if I was to probe the reasons for this I can only think that the questions do not sufficiently handle this issue.

[YKTMX]

To be fair, the compass isn't there to sort out the intricasies of the far left. Perhaps someone will derive a test that is. I could think up loads of interesting questions :D

Do you support North Korea's Right To Nuclear Arms :lol:

[elijahcraig]

MDP is NOT near elijahcraig... hell no. MDP is almost an anarchist. so am I.

What the fuck are you doing with a Stalinist name then?

[Guest1]

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON? WHAT'S STALINIST ABOUT "Che y Marijuana"???

[elijahcraig]

Che was a STALINIST.

[Guest1]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

that was classic. seriously. that was hilarious. che may have been a leninist. but a stalinist he was not.

[elijahcraig]

"I have sworn before a picture of the old and mourned comrade Stalin that I won't rest until I see these capitalist octopuses annihilated".

from the Maoist (Maoists support Stalin), Che Guevara

It is known to anyone who has studied Che, he read Stalin as a young man, not Trot. He also read Lenin, Sartre, Freud, Marx, Engels, and Lenin, and Mao. He was a Marxist-Leninist, meaning a Maoist and a Stalinist.

[Guest1]

I've read Ayn Rand, doesn't make me a Cappie Anarchist. Castro read Mein Kampf, doesn't make him a Nazi. I agree he was a Marxist-Leninist. And he was very much influenced by Maoism. But the Soviet Union was pissed at him for that. Precisely because Maoism and Stalinism are not the same thing.

However, I know what you were getting at. So, beyond the nit picking I just did only to annoy you I have another point :D I respect and look up to Che, even if I don't agree with everything he said or did. He was no god, neither was Marx. Remember what I said about human, free-flowing states. Well I believe in human, free-flowing politics. You gotta have the ability of thinking for yourself.

[elijahcraig]

You are a moron.

Che was against the USSR’s revisionism after Stalin died. He was a Maoist, he was a Stalinist, a Leninist, a Marxist. He would not denounce Khruschev’s revisionism if he was a revisionist (which you are if you are not a Stalinist or a Maoist.)

[Guest1]

wow, your tendency to categorize and generalize is wonderful. that's gonna help the revolution, calling the majority of today's western socialists revisionists.

[elijahcraig]

I can't change the facts: if you oppose Stalin, you are a revisionist in favor of Trotskyism or the other revisions of Marx's theoryies.

[(*]

I took this a little while ago...

Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

[Sasafrás]

Economic Left/Right: -9.90
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.60

Ha, I'm just kidding with you...

I GOT:

Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90

[Guest1]

Don't be an idiot, Stalin didn't follow Marx and Engels' example, so don't tell me I'ma revisionist just cause I hate the man.

And hell, why do I have to support Trotsky if I don't support Stalin? Do I HAVE to follow one of them?

You've got a bit of personality worship there, my man. I'd rather think for myself. Then again, comrade RAF would be proud of you.

[caliban]

Economic left/right 6.00
Libertarian/Auth. 5.64

[timbaly]

I belive I've gone further to the left and more liberal than my last test.

l/r -8.38
a/l - 7.62

[Red Flag]

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26

[elijahcraig]

Don't be an idiot, Stalin didn't follow Marx and Engels' example,

Yes he did.


so don't tell me I'ma revisionist just cause I hate the man.

You are a revisionist.


And hell, why do I have to support Trotsky if I don't support Stalin? Do I HAVE to follow one of them?

I never said that.


You've got a bit of personality worship there, my man. I'd rather think for myself. Then again, comrade RAF would be proud of you.

Personality worship? I don’t idolize Stalin, I just don’t like it when naïve people like you use Che Guevara’s name in a revisionist, or in your case utopian, manner.

[Saint-Just]

Che was not much of an ideologue. As far as he was he was a Stalinist. In the main he was a man of action and alliegence, alligience to Socialism and the Marxist-Leninist ideal. He was loyal to it and would die for it since he considered it the cure to the ills of the world he, and us, live in.

He was not as much of a Stalinist as say Stalin was, or much of the CPSU was. However, he certainly knew what Marxism-Leninism was and was fully knowledgeable of what he was doing.

Much of what Che contributed to socialist ideology was theory derived from Stalin's New Socialist Man, which was his blueprint for social change in Cuba.

Che read Trotsky too, although I have only ever heard that from Trotskyists. However, seemingly he never said anything about Trotsky or did anything, and there wasn't much commotion from him when Trotsky died.

It seems illogical to dislike Stalin as much as you do whilst like a man who had such blind adulation for the man based on his desire to emancipate South America similarly as the Socialist system had done so in Russia.

[Guest1]

His ideas may have been honourable, I wouldn't know. I'll admit I've read very little by Stalin. But I'm judging the man by his actions. Where as Che's actions involved revolution, denying himself better treatment once he was in government, and leaving Cuba for self-sacrifice and a new revolution.

[elijahcraig]

Stalin died with 90 roubles and a few books and a military suit (maybe less?). He acted in the direct wants of the proletariat by destroying the kulaks and all enemies of the people.

Che executed thousands after the revolution, argued against the right of people to speak against the party, and for very rigid central planning.

It would be hypocritical to support Che and not Stalin as they were both Leninists.

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Economic Left/Right: -9.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46

[Wolfie]

Yay, lets see whose more communist then who, then we can see who the greatest is. All you middle class psuedo communists are sickening, and then if someone challenges your superiority of being a communist you ban them purely for the fact your sickeniingly jelous for the stupidest of things like they have more stamps in their passports (you know who you are, mister, ive got more posts than you so i am more superior than thou) or because their moral concience exists more than wearing a che t-shirt and bing the cool school commie kid. You make me sick, children of the revolution, more like children proving capitalism, greed and vanity right you bunch of pretenchios twats.

(for any genuine comrade the above paragraph may not apply)

Yours without repent

Cmrd. WOLFIE

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Wolfie,
Why the rant?

[elijahcraig]

Yeah, Wolfie, did your wife cut your dick off while you were sleeping?

[Iron Star]

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

[IHP]

"Yeah, Wolfie, did your wife cut your dick off while you were sleeping? "

Fuckin' gold!

Wolfie, get off your high-horse, Bucko. You can't go aroung labelling members of this board as pretentious in a post (rant) like that.

I could go through your post and point out why you are making assumptions (such as, not all members are communist), but it would be a total waste of time.

Grow up.

[pedro san pedro]

economic left/right -7.88
libertarian/authoritarian -7.23

lucky -7

[187]

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Me and the dalai lama... ;)

[Fabi]

i think wolfie mentioned a lot of things that are true on this board. There are a lot of pseudo-rebellious-pseudo-leftists on here... And if there's a commie club for pretty much everyone who posted more than 50 posts (at least it used to be like that) then why shouldn't he call us commies?
he never said he was any better than us - i will jump at him when he does that, but i doubt he'll do that. all he did was pointing out fights in the hierarchies here, when so many people get such -x.xx results... Seems kind of hypocritical to be a big anarchist on the one hand and then fight for status on here so much.