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The Man
9th March 2011, 20:42
Are all anarchists not only communists but communalists?

Nolan
9th March 2011, 20:47
Are all anarchists not only communists but communalists?

Define communalism.

The Man
9th March 2011, 20:51
Define communalism.

Communalism is a modern term that describes a broad range of social movements and social theories which are in some way centered upon the community. Communalism can take the form of communal living or communal property, among others. [Wikipedia]


I saw that Communalists also want a society that is classless and stateless. And they also prefer a society that has direct democracy and self-management. They prefer the saying "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

If this is so, than what is the difference between Communism and Communalism?

Omsk
9th March 2011, 20:54
Belief in or practice of communal ownership, as of goods and property.

Nolan
9th March 2011, 20:59
Communalism is a modern term that describes a broad range of social movements and social theories which are in some way centered upon the community. Communalism can take the form of communal living or communal property, among others. [Wikipedia]



I saw that Communalists also want a society that is classless and stateless. And they also prefer a society that has direct democracy and self-management. They prefer the saying "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

If this is so, than what is the difference between Communism and Communalism?I don't think that's true. Communalism is most often used in the context of communes, most likely religious and isolationist. Communism does not deal with communes in that sense.

Communalism can refer to anything centered around small-scale egalitarian communities. It is not synonymous with communism.

But uh, to answer the question, anarchists can be communalists, yeah.

The Man
9th March 2011, 21:07
I don't think that's true. Communalism is most often used in the context of communes, most likely religious and isolationist. Communism does not deal with communes in that sense.

Communalism can refer to anything centered around small-scale egalitarian communities. It is not synonymous with communism.

But uh, to answer the question, anarchists can be communalists, yeah.

Okay but then it says this:

Communalism is defined as a theory of a society that is divided into several small, independent communes and the community is just a confederation of these communes.

Nolan
9th March 2011, 21:18
Okay but then it says this:

Communalism is defined as a theory of a society that is divided into several small, independent communes and the community is just a confederation of these communes.

There's no clear line. Communists can be communalists, but not all communalism is communism, and they are not synonymous.

gorillafuck
9th March 2011, 21:23
I thought communalism was a form of tribalism...

Aurorus Ruber
10th March 2011, 00:09
To my knowledge, no. While anarchist ideas have found application in rural communal settlements (eg communes), I don't think many (let along all) anarchists argue for nothing but communes in that sense. Near the end of his life, though, anarchist thinker Murray Bookchin apparently dubbed his model "communalism" to distinguish it both from communism (too mired in the baggage of the USSR) and anarchism, which he felt had become too lifestyle-oriented.

28350
10th March 2011, 00:26
I don't think anyone calls him/herself a communalist

Nolan
10th March 2011, 00:30
I don't think anyone calls him/herself a communalist

Yes, some anarchist person named above does, and there are Christian tendencies that do.

The Man
10th March 2011, 01:15
Yes, some anarchist person named above does, and there are Christian tendencies that do.

I'm not a communalist, I was just wondering what it means laid out and everything.

ckaihatsu
10th March 2011, 02:17
On a strictly objective / f.y.i. basis here I'll note that this discussion leads into one on the topic of centralization.


Centralization-Abstraction Diagram of Political Forms

http://postimage.org/image/35ru6ztic/

Magón
10th March 2011, 22:13
An example of Communalism is the Polygamists or Amish. Usually when you find people talking Communalism, they're close nit communities like those two are, and don't often choose to work with any other community/society, unless they absolutely have to.

hatzel
10th March 2011, 22:55
I'm not a communalist, I was just wondering what it means laid out and everything.

But then there's the question of whether you specifically mean Bookchin's ideology, Communalism, or just a vague term, 'communalism'...?