The Impact of the Iron Guard Legion Fascists in Romanian politics?

[bailey_187]

What impact did they have?

Were there ideas of nationalism, orthodox christianity, anti-semitism in common political discourse before their rise to prominance? Did these ideas enter after their growth in popularity in the 1930s?

They often assasinated political leaders; did this ever happen before the 1930s?

How different politicaly was King Carol II's dictatorship in the 1930s from the 'liberal democracy' of before (although maybe correct, please dont just say 'still capitalists so same')

Carol II's regime has been described as a "Monarcho-fascist" dictatorship in one book i read. Was the fascist element of this inspired by the Iron Legions?

What was the impact on Leftist groups of the rise in popularity of the fascists?

Hope someone can help. Also, any books, articles etc on this would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

[Os Cangaceiros]

I've read that the fascist movement in Romania was largely comprised of the lower/working classes, which puts the lie to the claim that fascism is a purely "petty bourgeois" ideology.

I don't know to what extent that's true, though.

[pranabjyoti]

Problem is we often mix up "low income" with lower class. Class of person is dependent on how he/she is related to production, not by how much he/she earns. The problem with petty-bourgeoisie class is they often earn less than the working class, specifically those who are in the organized sector. For that reason, many people with less depth of knowledge of Marxian sociology called them "lower class".

[Tim Finnegan]

I've read that the fascist movement in Romania was largely comprised of the lower/working classes, which puts the lie to the claim that fascism is a purely "petty bourgeois" ideology.
Only if one assumes that the class character of an ideology is determined by numerical representation among its adherents, which would suggest that both liberalism and conservatism are thoroughly proletarian systems of belief.


Problem is we often mix up "low income" with lower class. Class of person is dependent on how he/she is related to production, not by how much he/she earns. The problem with petty-bourgeoisie class is they often earn less than the working class, specifically those who are in the organized sector. For that reason, many people with less depth of knowledge of Marxian sociology called them "lower class".
This is also true. In underdeveloped countries like pre-war Romania, there was a large petite bourgeoisie of independent craftsman and farmers, who saw ultranationalism as a way of both defending their propertied status against the proletariat and peasantry and of lending state power as a weight in their favour against monopoly capitalism.

[Red Future]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legionnaires_Rebellion_and_the_Bucharest_Pogro m

Grim reading , the Iron Guard were one scary movement

[bailey_187]

This is also true. In underdeveloped countries like pre-war Romania, there was a large petite bourgeoisie of independent craftsman and farmers, who saw ultranationalism as a way of both defending their propertied status against the proletariat and peasantry and of lending state power as a weight in their favour against monopoly capitalism.

the core of the Iron Guards support was students, atleast according to my reading for the essay. Of course, though, the classes u mentioned were also involved, but references to them in minimal.

If anyone is interested in this they can read the essay i had to write on it (finished it today), dno how good it is tho - its not very Marxist either due lack of sources avaliable (most the books on Romanian history in the library here are in Romanian lol). Cant put it on the internet until next week tho because when they check for plagerism it will come up maybe

[pranabjyoti]

the core of the Iron Guards support was students, atleast according to my reading for the essay. Of course, though, the classes u mentioned were also involved, but references to them in minimal.

If anyone is interested in this they can read the essay i had to write on it (finished it today), dno how good it is tho - its not very Marxist either due lack of sources avaliable (most the books on Romanian history in the library here are in Romanian lol). Cant put it on the internet until next week tho because when they check for plagerism it will come up maybe
Students in itself aren't a class. The question is in which class those students belonged?