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Deniz Gezmis
13th September 2003, 20:55
ISTANBUL, Sept 13 (AFP) - Jailed rebel Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan may soon be transferred from his island prison, where he is the sole detainee, to a mainland high security establishment, a Turkish newspaper reported Saturday.

Earlier this year he claimed that conditions on the island of Imrali, in the sea of Marmara, were causing him serious health problems and warned of the consequences if "something happened" to him.

According to the newspaper Cumhuriyet the Turkish parliament's human rights committee has approved the transfer of Ocalan, whose death sentence in June 1999 was later commuted to life imprisonment.

"Our committee recently inspected the prison at Sincan (on the outskirts of Ankara) and found it suitable: if not, the transfer could also be made to another establishment," the committee's vice-president Cavit Torun told the newspaper.

"It is a question of finding a solution other than solitary confinement (for Ocalan)," Torun said, "since extending a state of isolation could turn out to be counter-productive."

Lawyers for Ocalan, former leader of the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party) now renamed Kadek, say he has respiratory difficulties, sinusitis, a heart condition and kidney problems.

Human rights activists and Kurdish sympathisers, inside and outside Turkey, have been calling for an end to Ocalan's solitary confinement as well as demanding a general amnesty for the leaders of the Kurdish rebellion.

On Friday a publisher promoting a book on human rights had posters showing Ocalan with the slogan "his health is our health" pasted up in several Turkish cities.

The posters were not to be seen Saturday in Istanbul, while in the western city of Izmir a 19- year-old bill-poster was arrested and could face charges under anti-terrorist legislation.

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IPkurd
13th September 2003, 22:04
thanks for that, i hope the turks do transfer him, but the thing is thaat im worried about is in the new prison wont he be attacked by the other prisoners, but then again i dont think he'll be able to even have much contact with them

Deniz Gezmis
13th September 2003, 23:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 10:04 PM
the thing is thaat im worried about is in the new prison wont he be attacked by the other prisoners, but then again i dont think he'll be able to even have much contact with them
Yeah, That's what i thought.

There are lots of cruel forms of punishment for politcal prisioners (Communists, Kurds, Socialists, Trade Unionists, ect.) That i saw on http://www.ozgurluk.org , I am unable to find the pictures now though. Ocalan wouldn't get such treatment i don't think. He is too wellknown.

Ocalan being moved won't be reported on Turkish TV, A few months ago, When a Kurdish girl blew herself up in an Ankara restaurant, I saw no mention on TV. When the PKK blew up the telephone exchange in Marmaris, A few years ago, No mention..

Hasta la victoria siempre, comrade.

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hawarameen
14th September 2003, 00:14
for all its attempts at modernisation and acceptence by europe turkey is still way back in the dark ages politically. its a case of denial, denial that kurds exist (a denial of the people, their language and culture), denial of its underhand dealings in iraqi kurdistan and denial of the freedom movement inside turkey.

meanwhile children as young as 11 are jailed for not saying 'happy is he who is a turk' and politicians like leyla zana are still wrongfully in jail for wanting a peacefull coexistence between kurds and turks.

Deniz Gezmis
14th September 2003, 02:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2003, 12:14 AM
for all its attempts at modernisation and acceptence by europe turkey is still way back in the dark ages politically. its a case of denial, denial that kurds exist (a denial of the people, their language and culture), denial of its underhand dealings in iraqi kurdistan and denial of the freedom movement inside turkey.

meanwhile children as young as 11 are jailed for not saying 'happy is he who is a turk' and politicians like leyla zana are still wrongfully in jail for wanting a peacefull coexistence between kurds and turks.
They've got limited rights in theory. But i've never seen the Kurdish language being broadcasted in Turkey, ever.

http://www.dozame.org/images/articles/20030825000000865_1.jpg

http://www.dozame.org/article.php?story=20...030626005203471 (http://www.dozame.org/article.php?story=20030626005203471)
http://www.dozame.org/article.php?story=20...030628184027949 (http://www.dozame.org/article.php?story=20030628184027949)

IPkurd
14th September 2003, 17:36
Death are you turkish or anyway from that area, because you know quiet alot and you said that you never seen kurdish language on turk TV which got me thinking

Ctisphonics
15th September 2003, 21:43
On this, I'm sure many of you guys will be surprised, I support to a limited extent. Many people in my area are survivors to the Greek and Armenian Holocausts back before and after world war 1. Many millions we're killed. My neighbors grandparents came from Smyrna, now called Izmir. Really horrible what happened out there, as well as what continues. Turkey has blockaded the newly independant Armenia, Azerbiajani (excuse any spelling mistakes please) has been fighting as a proxy for Turkey in against Armenia. The Soviets really f*cked that region up when they left, knowing that this would be the result. The Russians are profiting from this new war they create through arms sales, another reason Russia was anti-war in Iraq- didn't want America cutting into thier sphere of influence and taking thier market share away by giving the Armenians and Georgians free weaponry like after Desert Farewell to the Allied powers.

The good news is the US has troops in Georgia defending the pipeline, I was so freaken nervious the Turks were going to sever the line and blame it on terrorists, but we sent troops out there first.

Greeks, Armenians, Syrians, Kurds are all in the same boat together. Senator Byrd (US) won't be able to defend Turkey forever (that was the main reason he opposed the war on Iraq, his son in law is from Turkey).