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Os Cangaceiros
6th March 2011, 02:47
Saw this on another site. These are slides from the US Air Force's anti-terrorism training course.

http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq212/edecatan/harvard.jpg

http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq212/edecatan/harvard2.jpg

http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq212/edecatan/harvard3.jpg

I wonder what CAIR thinks about being labeled a "Muslim extremist platform" rather than a lobbying group, LOL :rolleyes:

progressive_lefty
6th March 2011, 02:55
I wonder what CAIR thinks about being labeled a "Muslim extremist platform" rather than a lobbying group, LOL :rolleyes:

If thats how they describe CAIR, then I wonder how they describe AIPAC?

Apoi_Viitor
6th March 2011, 03:02
Do you have a source or a link for this?

Os Cangaceiros
6th March 2011, 03:07
Andrew Sullivan at the Atlantic mentioned it:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/03/harvard-a-terrorist-training-camp.html

ZeroNowhere
6th March 2011, 13:09
Oxbridge: breeding ground for reactionary mass-murderers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_government).

Delenda Carthago
6th March 2011, 13:41
Ιs there anything that conservatives dont link to terrorism?

Tim Finnegan
7th March 2011, 00:08
Ιs there anything that conservatives dont link to terrorism?
The bourgeoisie, hence the lack of newspaper headlines reading "multi-millionaire responsible for 9/11 attack".

Amphictyonis
7th March 2011, 00:22
Same tactics were used against communism when 'communism' was the enemy. I'm not advocating 9/11 conspiracy theories when I say this but that PNAC publication which came out in 2000 was quite telling. They talked about the desire to modernize the US military but said it would be hard to get funds in peacetime, especially since the USSR fell. They went on to talk about America's economic and geopolitical goals in the Middle East and said nation on nation state violence is a thing of the past and terrorism will be the enemy of the future.

Reminds me of a quote from that Avatar movie:


This is how it works... When people are sittin' on shit that you want, you make 'em your enemy

From their publication


"while the unresolved conflict in Iraq provides the immediate justification [for U.S. military presence], the need for a substantial American force presence in the [Persian] Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein)" and "Over the long term, Iran may well prove as large a threat to U.S. interests in the [Persian] Gulf as Iraq has. And even should U.S.-Iranian relations improve, retaining forward-based forces in the region would still be an essential element in U.S. security strategy given the longstanding American interests in the region."

I wonder how much money has been thrown into the occupation of the Middle East while workers are losing jobs and families go hungry? It's pathetic how Obama has marginalized the anti war movement. It makes me sick.

Mather
7th March 2011, 03:51
It's pathetic how Obama has marginalized the anti war movement. It makes me sick.

There were a number of people and organisations within the American anti-war movement that were fooled by Obama. As for marginalisation of the anti-war movement, it's failings, lack of programme and reformist politics all contributed a lot more to the anti-war movement's marginalisation than Obama.

Princess Luna
7th March 2011, 04:17
Ιs there anything that conservatives dont link to terrorism?
People like the army of god who blow up abortion clinics and gun down abortion doctors are not terrorists! they are good christains who are maybe just a little misguided , and clearly they are not on the same level as evil terrorist groups like the ALF and CAIR.

Fulanito de Tal
7th March 2011, 04:53
http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq212/edecatan/harvard2.jpg



I can't remember exactly, but it was either the US, England, or a mix that help the Wahabis control Saudi Arabia so we could take the oil. They're a puppet of the West.

Jose Gracchus
7th March 2011, 05:55
Does anyone have a good source for this? Besides Andrew Sullivan's blog, since he doesn't provide it either.

Tim Finnegan
10th March 2011, 01:17
I can't remember exactly, but it was either the US, England, or a mix that help the Wahabis control Saudi Arabia so we could take the oil. They're a puppet of the West.
What's more, most of those Islamists who violently oppose Western influence subscribe to the rival philosophy of Qutbism, the two of which diverge rather deeply in their beliefs, attitudes and practices. The media just happened to latch onto a conveniently foreign-sounding -ism as a generic term for "militant-Islamism-but-I'm-trying-to-sound-informed-and-scholarly".

(And it was the British who installed the House of Saud in the inter-war period.- prior to the establishment of Saudi Arabia in the late 1920s, the Saudi domains where actually a British protectorate, essentially functioning as a strategic extension of British-held Egypt. The regime was not intended to secure Saudi oil, which had not yet been discovered, but to secure British control over the Red Sea and Arabian Gulf so as to maintain secure movement between India and Iran (which did have oil) and the Suez Canal.)

Fulanito de Tal
10th March 2011, 04:40
What's more, most of those Islamists who violently oppose Western influence subscribe to the rival philosophy of Qutbism, the two of which diverge rather deeply in their beliefs, attitudes and practices. The media just happened to latch onto a conveniently foreign-sounding -ism as a generic term for "militant-Islamism-but-I'm-trying-to-sound-informed-and-scholarly".

(And it was the British who installed the House of Saud in the inter-war period.- prior to the establishment of Saudi Arabia in the late 1920s, the Saudi domains where actually a British protectorate, essentially functioning as a strategic extension of British-held Egypt. The regime was not intended to secure Saudi oil, which had not yet been discovered, but to secure British control over the Red Sea and Arabian Gulf so as to maintain secure movement between India and Iran (which did have oil) and the Suez Canal.)

Thanks! Now I remember. The Anglo-Persian Oil Company which is now British Petroleum