Relapse > Recovery

[Pirate Utopian]

You know it's true. Everybody wants to act as if Relapse wasnt a good album and Recovery is perfect. But Relapse is way more fun, seriously it's up there with the Slim Shady LP or the Marshal Mathers LP.

Not hating on Recovery, I respect it, Eminem grew up he cant be Shady forever. But still...

Eminem just was better on Relapse. "We Made You" wasn't that good but the other songs beat Recovery hands down.

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"I'm zonin' on Relapse, she's sliding on Blueprint."

[F9]

wut?man thats got to be one of my biggest disagreements in this forum(congrats btw:lol:).What?Relapse was easily the worst album he took out there, while Recovery started putting him "back on the correct road", way better than Relapse.
Come on Marshall Mathers LP?We are talking about probably the best (imo) "cd" in this genre(and maybe not only).
Yeah, Relapse had way more "shitting around" while on Recovery you wont find any, maybe beside WTP.And thats the whole point for me, i am tired of meaningless songs...Ok one every now and then, 2-3 on a cd i can say that its a must to exist, but not all of them.You either have something to say, or just leave the beat go and the people dance.Maybe its on how we take this genre, maybe its because i started listening to Shady way after he was made known and i had a more general approach from his songs, i dont know.But i really prefer recoverys eminem over relapse.I wouldnt say no to a Marshall Mathers LP eminem, even though i know his "shitting stance" was on way bigger level, he was doing it threw songs that were great, he had that combination that could make most of his songs stand out and be more than good, but i am one of those people that got tired of listening to people whinnying on how "shady is dead" now its just Eminem.That got really boring, he is 40 ffs, of course he would grow up at some time, but his music its still great(not perfect, recovery was far from perfect but rather the shit that we are forced to take from this pop culture, this cd was a savior last year), even on a completely different approach that we used him from. My main dislikes came from cooperating with idiots, see rihanna etc, but fuck he may is grown up(a bit:lol:) but he is shady somewhere deep and he will try some fucked up shit he gets on his mind no matter what.Of course that got to be a huge selling results, but fuck, that bieber guy sells a lot too...
Anw, bottom line is Recovery >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Relapse
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[Pirate Utopian]

I'm not whining about the "new Eminem", although I perfer the old one, like I said he's grown up. But Relapse is waaaaay underrated. Some songs like 3AM would not have been out of place on the MM LP.

I can agree that Encore was terrible. The line between sounding like Shady and sounding braindead was crossed. But not when it comes to Relapse.

I think this is gonna be an album like Ice Cube's Lethal Injection. In a few years we'll look back on it and see how wrong it is to toss this aside.

I did not care for Recovery. Maybe when I'm 40 but I'm 20 now. Thank based God for having OFWGKTA fill the void.
Relapse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recovery

[F9]

I wasnt talking about you about the whinnying part, i am talking about the general approach i see from many(other) people that got boring, which even got to a level saying fuck marshall, we want shady...But for me asking from someone to go back in drugs, become a "kid" again and immature its just plain stupid and damn disrespect to someone offered a LOT to this genre.My preference is probably on old times shady too, but i respect his change, and honestly i am glad for every people growing up.Its stupid to have a 40 year old immature guy and it would wash out eventually.

As for 3am in MM LP, it would maybe be a good filling up song, it wouldnt be one of the "masterpieces" that CD(you know what i mean with cd, so i stop using the "" :p) contained though.However it may true had songs that can be compared, and it could be included inside easily i would say.What made Relapse bad imo was that it was full with songs like that, the average songs that you can find in all of Shadys cd's but the great ones always outpowered those ones, outpowered them so much that they even made those average ones enjoyable to hear!!
As for Encore been terrible, it is obviously not compared with his prior work and i would go as fas as to say that even Recovery.However even that cd you could find a couple of great songs.Mockingbird and Like toy soldiers proved that even on his worse he can pull out masterpieces, especially the first is a song i really enjoy.Where he messed up?While on his prior work the masterpieces and great songs were the starting point and the "shitty" ones were added just for the.... shit, on Encore seemed like the complete opposite happened, and of course i can agree that he even crossed the "shady line" on lots of that cd songs that made it just too much.The man admitted being on drugs the whole Encore time, so i give him that credit.

As for you are 20 and you will appreciate it on 40, i am 18, close to 19, and i really got "bonded" with that cd.I dont know why, but i am having the thought that it was cause it came to a really hard time of me, i could say the worst and the road i was trying to get out etc the whole cd was expressing me, i got familiar with what he was saying, i was there and trying to get out to.I was(and probably still do) having my own "recovery" and it came out just about the perfect timing i would say, its not that easy finding expression of what you feel and try threw music and hell threw an artist you liked but never expected that.I am feeling it weird even now seeing how i associated with a cd, and with someone elses lyrics but i can even say that it also helped me on some aspects, so i really give Eminems credit for that, i can feel what he is talking about and how he aint one of the many rappers out of there rapping of nothing, just a beat with meaningless lyrics, and on many part thats what Relapse was, just one cd that you can find elsewhere too, with some shady input ofcourse, but nothing unique as what shady used us.
I am with the impression that Recovery gets underestimated especially for some of his collaborations on that cd and lots of "fans" dismissed it from just that.So again, Recovery>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Relapse

[Pirate Utopian]

I guess I'm just more immature. Or atleast I like immature stuff. My mind is not where Recovery is at.

I can see what you mean about the "powerful songs" (I assume you mean songs like Cleaning Out My Closet, Stan, etc.) but songs like I'm Back or Kill You have more replayability to me. I have a dark sense of humor.

As for the collaborations he did, meh doesnt make much of a difference. Other songs that dont have any features arent that interesting to me either. No Love with Lil Wayne was okay, the Kanye West line was funny, but the beat was no good.

Relapse>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Recovery

Btw, what do you think of the new Dr. Dre single I Need A Doctor?

[F9]

kill you was a powerful song also, a shitting around song indeed, but great nonetheless.I am not fan of serious lyrics all time long, i really like "stupid" ones also, but i do think that they shouldnt be the majority.

As for dres single, its pretty decent i have to say, i like it, especially the live in grammy awards was a fantastic live show(beside rihannas part which screw up the whole thing, but anw she got out of the picture completely eventually and skylar stole the day), i hope for more similar songs on Detox(i mean you know, outside moneeey, *****eees etc shit, really aint my thing) and from what i read indeed Dre said that he passed over that in this CD so hopefully it would make a good suprise.Probably the most anticipated CD ever, surely from what i have seen.But in anw, nice little song, shady is rapping about the man that owns everything to and from the live you could tell he means every word so that pushes it even more and took it some levels above.So yeah hope for more:D

[Pirate Utopian]

I didn't really care for the new Dre single myself. Em's verse was okay. Dre arms were monsterously huge in that video too, bigger than his head.

[F9]

wasnt that fascinated about dres part either, but it was small anw, but shady put a good job in describing a relation with a single man.I think it may warrants some more recognition than not caring;)

Man, we turn this to a 2 mans conversation, no other people listening to shady as it seems.Too many damn punk hipsters in this site:lol:

[Pirate Utopian]

Yeah I guess I should have titled this "Eminem > RATM" for more replies.

[F9]

lol, i can rename it you know...;)

[L.A.P.]

What the fuck!? Only two people join a thread about Eminem? I'm starting to get sick of you Hipsters, especially because I'm becoming one.

But to be on topic, Relapse I actaully thought had a few pretty good songs on it and I wouldn't say it was terrible as much as it was mediocre. A lot of people will yell you Recovery is a step above, which is true, but it's getting way too overrated. "Not Afraid" was an okay song, "Love the Way You Lie" was a cool song until the radio played 500 times in a row, "No Love" I really wish it could have not been made a single so I could be the only one with that song on my iPod.

[Pirate Utopian]

Relapse actually has a few songs like Deja Vu which are pretty serious and do deal with his addiction.

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I'm starting to get sick of you Hipsters, especially because I'm becoming one. [...] "No Love" I really wish it could have not been made a single so I could be the only one with that song on my iPod.

Hipster as fuck.

[F9]

Relapse actually has a few songs like Deja Vu which are pretty serious and do deal with his addiction.

Just to be clear i never said that all his serious songs are great and his fucking around are shit.I may dont like a serious one and love a fucking around one.For example DeJaVu it just.... dont sounds right.I cant find that "extra" that Shady can put on his song, even the beat dont sounds that good, its an average song at best.

[Delenda Carthago]

Eminem used to have his own unique style and sound. Now he is just trying to adjust the trends on him. The 3 first albums are all time classic. Encore i use to play with my dog. Relapse has De Ja Vu which is so fuckin good song its crazy its on this album. Recovery has some songs that are really fuckin hot(Space Bound,25 to life, On fire,Almost Famous), and some others that I hate(Seduction,No love).

Eminem still is the best human being spittin a rhyme ever.