You know how the FBI is placing GPS devices in cars unannounced with no warrant?

[Kingpin]

Suppose I were to find one of these gps tracking devices under my vehicle, somewhere in the hood, etc.

I conclude that it is scrap/a misplaced child's toy/garbage.

I then destroy it and dispose of it in the dumpster.

Would I be made to pay for the device that was left unattended on my vehicle?




This might help/background information on what situation I am talking about:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110303/ap_on_re_us/us_gps_tracking_warrants

20 year old son of well-known Islamic-American community leader takes his car to the shop. The mechanic discovers a device. He posts it on the internet asking what it was and it turns out it was a GPS. 2 FBI agents come to his doorstep and demand its return.

The federal appeals court in the Washington circuit where Afifi's case was filed ruled in August that the collection of GPS data amounts to a government "search" that required a warrant. The Obama administration asked the court to change its ruling, calling the decision "vague and unworkable" and arguing that investigators will lose access to a tool they now use "with great frequency."

[Sasha]

here in the netherlands they just had some fuck ups like that.
first an known criminal looks under his car, sees a bomb, calls the cops. cops do the whole circus with evacuating the street, calling the millitary to get the bomb squad (dutch cops dont have their own) only to find out it wasnt an bomb but an sloppy placed tracking device planted by their major crimes colleagues :D

not much later an immigrant kid involved in petty crime had his scooter confiscated because it was sooped up (wich is illegal here) he gets it back and ofcourse starts messing with it again (what did they think he was going to do? leave it running 30?) so ofcourse he finds the tracking device they planted in the engine, he goes on local telly dumping it in a bucket of water only to find the cops wanting to prosecute him for destroying an piece of goverment propperty :blink:

[Ele'ill]

I would have so much fun if I found one of those devices.

[Kuppo Shakur]

Don't destroy it, put it on a cop car.

[Che a chara]

I would have so much fun if I found one of those devices.


Don't destroy it, put it on a cop car.

nah, attach it to a migrating bird or to a dangerous animal that will either lead them to another continent or to being savagely attacked by a wild beast :lol:

[RGacky3]

Call a lawer.

[Hoplite]

Call a lawer.
That would be my recommendation.

The ACLU isnt a bad choice.

If they cant/wont help you, throw it on a truck headed out of town. Just dont touch it with your fingers, at that point they can prove that you knowingly removed it and tried to dispose of it.

[Ele'ill]

at that point they can prove that you knowingly removed it and tried to dispose of it.

I don't have fingerprints, I'm a leaf on the wind

[Hoplite]

I don't have fingerprints, I'm a leaf on the wind
FYI, removing or destroying your fingerprints is not actually as effective as people seem to think it is. When you do that, your fingertips start producing an oily secretion to aid in re-growing the skin. That secretion is full of DNA and shows up readily when applied to a surface.

Although DNA is useless without something to compare it to, it's still a near fool-proof way to identify someone.

Better to just wear gloves and spare yourself some pain.

[Ele'ill]

FYI, removing or destroying your fingerprints is not actually as effective as people seem to think it is. When you do that, your fingertips start producing an oily secretion to aid in re-growing the skin. That secretion is full of DNA and shows up readily when applied to a surface.

What I mean is I have no fingers, I'm a leaf on the wind.


Although DNA is useless without something to compare it to, it's still a near fool-proof way to identify someone.

"Yeah the results are in, we have a Quercus alba, family Fagaceae, as a positive suspect ID"


Better to just wear gloves and spare yourself some pain.

Leaves can't wear gloves :rolleyes:

[Bud Struggle]

Better to just wear gloves and spare yourself some pain.

Aw hell wear the whole outfit.

http://nerfgunbobbins.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/tinfoil-darth.jpg

[Revolution starts with U]

It seems Somebody took a journey to the spirit world :lol: