Class wars and US citizens becoming aware

[AmericanSocialist]

Hello all,

so recently we have been hearing on corporate owned news stations and comedy shows such as the Daily show and the Colbert report about class war. This comes in the wake of the protest for unions. So does this mean that American's will become more aware of this class war? I am not too optimistic about America.... people just seem so misinformed. But could this turn around with the more chaotic these capitalist get? I have a feeling that if another republican (or a democrat that is similar to Barak Obama) gets in office and continues to take away from the people their wealth and give it to the Coca cola and other rich corporations then there will be much uprising. But this doesnt necessary mean a socialist uprising, but just a demand for change that could include tea party idiots or other dumb asses coming to the table with their capitalist ideas. What do you all think?

[RadioRaheem84]

All Americans realize that there is a class war, they just cannot articulate what is going on well because they are bombarded daily with propaganda that tells them to think otherwise.

Everyone that lives in the lower rung of the capitalist system can easily see the class society, bias, and war that is waged upon them every day. It is very evident. From the most rabid right wing worker to the most apolitical teen, they can all see the hierarchy in the workplace and in society. The problem is that they're not allowed to think that the system is unnatural and can be changed. They are taught to think that the system we have is some natural product of society/civilization. They are told to think that the relative legal freedom they experience in politics (to some extent) and in exchange (purchasing) is the same freedom in production. Therefore if they have a problem with the workplace, they can just "freely" leave and change their own life, making them the agents of their own destiny. From this madness and backwards thinking, comes the idea that they are to blame for their own problems and therefore rarely blame the system. At most they will demand reform or change of politicians but never demand an entire social upheaval.

To bring it all back, Americans already see the class war. They already know it's happening to them and are very aware that there is an active ruling class whose interests clash with theirs.

The problem is that there is a lack of socialist voices out there steering the anger, the resentment and disdain for the system, into a more productive and lucid opposition.

Instead the anger is fragmented into segments of reformists, liberals, progressives and even right wing populists.

The Daily Show and the Colbert Report are faux liberal-progressive shows that somewhat support the unions but at the same time try to curb any sort of radicalism fostering up in the class war and claim that radicals are the other side of the coin along with right wingers.

Another problem is that Americans are obsessed with "stability". They act as though they have so much to lose if they revolt, when they can gain so much more! They frown upon what they perceive of as "violence", when it's really the inevitable clash of people vs. the State.

In other words, I am somewhat hopeful, but the propaganda machine is way too strong here and American values are too entrenched that most Americans would not agree to radical social change.

[Rusty Shackleford]

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[AmericanSocialist]

Damn very sad my friend. What can we really do to change this? I know people say we need to bring unions back but at this time unions are at the brink of extinction. So what do we do?

I recently lost my job due to a MINOR mistake, but luckily I got another Job. But I had to take a pay cut and not only this, but now this job seems to be very similar in exploitation. I can only take one 5 MINUTE break and ofcourse one 30 min lunch break. I am not trying to ramble here, but I am becoming more aware of how exploited the working people are. I know for sure people suffer much more than me in this system. It is not right that people make themselves think that this is the way things should be. There is too much suffering in this way of life. How can we bring about revolutionary change that Che, Fidel, Mao, Lennin, and others brought?

I am always hopeful but not so hopeful about this forsaken place

[RadioRaheem84]

The only way is to shed the false image of socialism that the US propaganda machine have emanated throughout the Cold War.

We need to work hard and mobilize people to understand the system and teach them about the system. I do not agree with the whole "fuck you", "fuck authority" take to anti-establishment politics. Mostly because I take a "innocent as a dove, wise as a serpent" approach. It's better to educate the workers around you; friends, family and neighbors. Recommend books by leftist authors and lectures on youtube. Share documentaries with them and have debates.

Get involved with the local socialist groups at your campus or in the area!

[Red Commissar]

When the media mentions "class war", or at least when I hear it, it seems to be in the context that they're accusing Obama of "fermenting" class war (or hatred as they would put it) to advance his political agenda.

[RadioRaheem84]

Yeah. The media loves throwing the "class warfare" canard to make politicians look bad when they point fingers at the rich.

[cb9's_unity]

The brilliance of bourgeois propaganda is that while they are forced to recognize class warfare exists, they reverse who is initiating it.

With the current American working class so docile, it is actually the capitalists who are taking advantage of the opportunity to wage war against the working class. Republicans are using the deficit bullshit as a weapon to destroy the rights and limited privileges of workers (the refusal to raise the top brackets income tax makes this blatantly clear).

The right wing media's definition of class warfare only accepts that it flows one way, from the working class against the bourgeois class. Thus, in the eyes of the right, only the working class can be responsible for the instability that results from class warfare.