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hatzel
2nd March 2011, 20:56
Thousands of sadhus - or holy men - have been banned from selling cannabis to festival-goers at an ancient temple in Nepal.

They are gathering at Pashupatinath Temple in Kathmandu to celebrate the Hindu festival of Shivaratri.

Sadhus - Hindus who renounce the world around them - traditionally celebrate Shivaratri by smoking cannabis.

But those found selling drugs at the temple this year will face eviction by armed police, temple officials say.

Since last week police have been mingling with the sadhus in plain clothes to identify anyone selling drugs.

About 20 sadhus have already been arrested and have been moved to an area outside the city, officials say.



'Spoilt'

The Hindu god Shiva is said to have enjoyed smoking cannabis.

Because of that sadhus - who mostly live in forests, caves and temples - see their use of the drug as receiving a blessing from him.

Thousands of sadhus have travelled from India for the festival - which falls on 2 March this year - and the temple authority has said it does not object to the sadhus smoking cannabis for their own worship.

Despite this, the Pashupati Area Development Trust (PADT) wants to ensure the drug is not sold on the temple premises.

"Over the past few years, the use of drugs has become more widespread and it's also become commercial," PADT Member Secretary Sushil Nahata told the BBC.

"It has spoilt the essence of the festival."

"We heard a lot of rumours that sadhus were selling these drugs. We tried to stop them doing this last year, but weren't able to," said Mr Nahata.

"This year we've started a proper campaign."

The PADT has put together a task force of 25 people, including police and armed police officers, to enforce the ban.

"We have only found limited amounts of hashish in cigarettes so far," Mr Nahata said.

He added: "Any sadhus arrested with large quantities of the drug will be sent to jail."



Source (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12610597)

ComradeMan
2nd March 2011, 20:59
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Sinister Cultural Marxist
8th March 2011, 21:46
I can see both sides of the debate. I think protecting the right of Sadhus to smoke cannabis is an important right of their religion, and banning the sale of it prevents the commercialization their spiritual practices. It sort of defeats the purpose of being a spiritual mendicant once you start doing it for profit. One of the nicer things of a lot of Hindu practice in India was its fairly communal nature, it would be sad to lose that to profit and whatnot. On the other hand, I am a little suspicious of the government clamping down on the rights of otherwise law-abiding spiritual mendicants.

Lunatic Concept
8th March 2011, 21:53
Watch those two videos playing at the same time :laugh:

erupt
8th March 2011, 22:04
Them cats are ripping hits so huge, they can't even hold 'em in!:laugh:

Sinister Cultural Marxist
9th March 2011, 19:04
Yeah, nobody can rip a chillum like a sadhu. I always thought the Sadhus were among the most interesting religious practitioners in India, seeing as how they rejected aspects of the caste system and the trappings of personal wealth (well, most sadhus, Osho was quite famous for his felt robes and rolls royces), although it seems like sometimes they can still be quite politically conservative.

It's also interesting that drug use, something frowned upon by conservative society here, is there seen as something spiritual and perfectly normal, at least in certain religious settings.

ComradeMan
9th March 2011, 20:30
Osho wasn't a sadhu in the general sense was he?

But le's not forget there are many "kinds" of sadhus.

http://www.oshoteachings.com/osho-discourse-on-authentic-sadhus/

If you want some food for thought, how about the aghori sadhus? They are, well, particular in the least.... I understand their idea but I'm not so sure I'm all that into their practices.

Viet Minh
14th March 2011, 09:31
Was Rastafarianism in any way influenced by Hinduism?

btw where's mik sheikh? :unsure:

hatzel
14th March 2011, 09:57
Was Rastafarianism in any way influenced by Hinduism?

To be honest there was a load of cannabis in the oil in the temple that was to be used to anoint the kings and priests and Messiah et al., so I'd not say there's any need to suppose a link between the Rastafari Movement and Hinduism, despite similar hairstyles (hey, didn't ol' Samson have dreads, too?) and similar drug habits :)

RGacky3
14th March 2011, 15:10
To be honest there was a load of cannabis in the oil in the temple that was to be used to anoint the kings and priests and Messiah et al.,

You got a source for that?

hatzel
14th March 2011, 22:07
You got a source for that?

Well...it's more of a theory than anything set in stone as fact, but I think we can all agree that Wikipedia is exceedingly trustworthy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(etymology) :lol:

Sir Comradical
14th March 2011, 22:32
Fact: Smoking weed/opium used to be normal at one point in India.

The drug war must end.

ComradeMan
15th March 2011, 10:51
You got a source for that?

Exodus 30: 2-33

Moreover the Lord spoke unto Moses, saying: "Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet kineboisin two hundred and fifty shekels.


Kineboisin or kannabosm (as it also appears) is the key word here, according to some it is cannabis and was later retranslated as calamus.

The sweet cane of Palestine is mentioned in Song of Solomon 4:14; Ezekiel 27:19 and also an ingredient of the Holy Ointment is found in Exodus 30:23; Isaiah 43:24.

It is open to debate but I don't see why it would not have been used medicinally at the times or would have been unknown to apothecaries. Some people react badly to this though and deny it.

If this is indeed cannabis then the Bible does not imply the priests were sitting round stoned and listening to Bob Marley... although had they been so then things might have been very different. :lol:

Robespierre Richard
15th March 2011, 14:38
I have finally found my religion!

hatzel
15th March 2011, 17:06
I have finally found my religion!

Is that in addition to or instead of Comrade-Stalinism? :lol:

Robespierre Richard
15th March 2011, 17:11
Is that in addition to or instead of Comrade-Stalinism? :lol:

Comrade-Stalinism is more of a transcendental philosophy.

hatzel
15th March 2011, 18:57
If this is indeed cannabis then the Bible does not imply the priests were sitting round stoned and listening to Bob Marley... although had they been so then things might have been very different. :lol:

You say that, but the Zohar sure makes a lot more sense if you're in an 'alternate mental state' :rolleyes: