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hatzel
2nd March 2011, 18:42
Two US servicemen have died after a gunman opened fire on a bus carrying American military personnel at Frankfurt Airport, police say.

The US Air Force said two of its airmen died and two were wounded. One of the dead is said to have been the driver.

A 21-year-old man from Kosovo was held after the shooting in front of Terminal 2 at Europe's second-biggest airport.

The airport is near the large US military base at Ramstein, a hub for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The BBC's Stephen Evans in Berlin says that after the shooting, which took place in the middle of the afternoon, the gunman fled into the terminal building, where he was arrested by German police.

Police spokesman Jurgen Linker told AFP news agency: "Everything happened on board the bus. The suspected gunman has been arrested. There are two dead and two seriously injured."

The gunman's motive for the attack is not yet clear
Kosovo Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi said in an interview that German police had identified the suspect as a Kosovan citizen from the northern town of Mitrovica.

"This is a devastating and a tragic event," Mr Rexhepi said, reports the Associated Press news agency.

"We are trying to find out was this something that was organised or what was the nature of the attack."

The interior minister for the German state of Hesse, Boris Rhein, confirmed the gunman was from Kosovo.

"Whether the incident was linked to terrorism I cannot say at this stage," he told journalists.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel condemned the "terrible incident".

"I would like to say how saddened I am by this incident and I would like to assure you that the German government will do our utmost to investigate what happened," she told journalists in Berlin.

Four Islamists were convicted in March last year in Germany for plotting to bomb targets including Ramstein Air Base.

Last month the German parliament extended by one year the military mission in Afghanistan.

Germany has 4,860 troops there, despite domestic polls suggesting the mission's unpopularity.



Source (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12621832)





No proof as of yet that there's anything political about it, but just in case any such news appears, let's chuck it in here! Also, could there be any impact on the right, with this being a non-German perp...?

Dimmu
2nd March 2011, 18:48
This event will definitely boost the far-right in Germany..

Princess Luna
2nd March 2011, 18:54
The killer should be treated as a prisoner of war , not a terrorist. killing enemy soliders outside of combat is a legitimit act of war and the U.S. does it all the time however distasteful it may be. this is assuming of course he did because of the U.S.'s involvment in the middle east.

danyboy27
2nd March 2011, 21:01
The killer should be treated as a prisoner of war , not a terrorist. killing enemy soliders outside of combat is a legitimit act of war and the U.S. does it all the time however distasteful it may be. this is assuming of course he did because of the U.S.'s involvment in the middle east.

Killing a soldier dosnt automaticly make you eligible for being a POW, you have to respect several critera.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
2nd March 2011, 21:16
I was suprised to hear the man was from Kosovo. I mean, a Serb, that woul make sense. But a Kosovi? I was honestly suprised. But hey, one guy with a gun can do quite a lot and fitting a preconceived mold is hardly a must.

ComradeMan
2nd March 2011, 21:22
I was suprised to hear the man was from Kosovo. I mean, a Serb, that woul make sense. But a Kosovi? I was honestly suprised. But hey, one guy with a gun can do quite a lot and fitting a preconceived mold is hardly a must.

This stinks of a covert op gone wrong- smoke and mirrors here- maybe!

B5C
2nd March 2011, 21:26
I was suprised to hear the man was from Kosovo. I mean, a Serb, that woul make sense. But a Kosovi? I was honestly suprised. But hey, one guy with a gun can do quite a lot and fitting a preconceived mold is hardly a must.

I guess religion is more important than nationalism.

B5C
2nd March 2011, 21:27
The killer should be treated as a prisoner of war , not a terrorist. killing enemy soliders outside of combat is a legitimit act of war and the U.S. does it all the time however distasteful it may be. this is assuming of course he did because of the U.S.'s involvment in the middle east.

The shooter is from Kosovo. We are not at war with Kosovo. In fact we liberated the Muslims that lived in Kosovo from the Serbs.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
2nd March 2011, 21:28
This stinks of a covert op gone wrong- smoke and mirrors here- maybe!

Oh god... :rolleyes:

Can we at least wait for the smallest sliver of fact to emerge from the aftermath of the event before formulating conspiracy theories? I am not saying anything isn't possible, but God comrade seems as though a couple of people being shot isn't enough, needs a plot twist or two :lol:


I'm poking fun at it but I do feel much sympathy for the faamilies of the victims.


The shooter is from Kosovo. We are not at war with Kosovo. In fact we liberated the Muslims that lived in Kosovo from the Serbs.

Sums up my feeling. I mean, nobody would recognize that country without US pressure, and did anybody watch the inependence celebrations? You couldn't tell what the kosovi flag was from that event due to all the red, white, and blue being flashed. The US flag, from what I saw, was only slightly less common than that of Albania.

But like I said, it's obvious that one man not fitting a preconceived mold shouldn't be that big of a shock.

Lt. Ferret
2nd March 2011, 23:50
theres a difference between a uniformed soldier captured in a time of war and a murderer. this guy is a murderer.

danyboy27
3rd March 2011, 00:13
theres a difference between a uniformed soldier captured in a time of war and a murderer. this guy is a murderer.

well, officially, you can attack an uniformed soldier while being dressed has a civilian and still beling labelled a POW, but there are several critera to respect.

the structure in wich you operate must be clearly militaristic in nature and using civilian clothing to deceive the ennemy will make you not illegible for being a POW.

there must also be an official war being waged between those two groups.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
3rd March 2011, 00:17
Absolutely.

Is the plainsclothes CIA/Security operative currently being held by Pakistan eligible for POW status? He has just as much, if not more, of a case than this Kosovi does of being a POW and not tried as a murderer.

danyboy27
3rd March 2011, 01:47
Absolutely.

Is the plainsclothes CIA/Security operative currently being held by Pakistan eligible for POW status? He has just as much, if not more, of a case than this Kosovi does of being a POW and not tried as a murderer.

no beccause pakistan and the us are not officially at war.

those folks in pakistan will be tried according to the criminal code of pakistan.

in Theory, if they are embassador or embassy personnal they should be protected by diplomatic immunity and sent back to the us to receive proper trial.

if they are advisors working for the us sent to pakistan working in cooperation with or against pakistan they are subject to the country criminal laws has well.

so, long answer short, this guy in germany will receive a trial in germany and be judged under german criminal laws.

Dimmu
3rd March 2011, 05:36
no beccause pakistan and the us are not officially at war.

Well, Kosovo and US are not at war eather..

Again the religion is probably the reason behind the guys actions..