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Apoi_Viitor
27th February 2011, 21:50
If peak oil is in our very near future, then why should we be concerned about the threat of global warming? It seems like whether or not we want it to, our carbon output will have to be significantly reduced...

Luisrah
27th February 2011, 22:41
If peak oil is in our very near future, then why should we be concerned about the threat of global warming? It seems like whether or not we want it to, our carbon output will have to be significantly reduced...

If peak oil is in our very near future, it means there is still plenty of oil to be burned. And that is a lot.
Even if there is no more oil, they can find another way. Look at biofuel. Using food to make fuel.

Just think about it. The continuation of exploration, pollution, all this while there is a possibility of renewable energies being used, and to change the whole transport system into public transports (or atleast much more public transports, and other personal vehicles that don't occupy as much space, or pollute as much, or not at all) and while there are people diyng of hunger. 10 million a year that could be avoided.

The Vegan Marxist
28th February 2011, 03:36
If peak oil is in our very near future, then why should we be concerned about the threat of global warming? It seems like whether or not we want it to, our carbon output will have to be significantly reduced...

Because we can survive without oil, for starters. lol Say peak oil is reached. We'll be forced to embrace alternative energies. Though, climate change will still be around and will still be very much a threat.

Ms. Max
28th February 2011, 04:04
There is still a huge amount of oil to burn after the peak. And there is coal and bio-fuel. And some scientists feel we are already at or have passed the tipping point. Capitalism is actually now in a position to exterminate humanity. I feel much of the left is not focused with enough urgency on this issue.

Delirium
28th February 2011, 16:17
If peak oil is in our very near future, then why should we be concerned about the threat of global warming? It seems like whether or not we want it to, our carbon output will have to be significantly reduced...

Well if oil supply runs low and green alternatives are not in place, people will start using resources that produce more co2 (such as coal, or wood). Which contributes to climate change in direct and indirect ways.

We should have been investing in research and infrastructure for this transition to clean energy 20 years ago.

Ms. Max
16th April 2011, 14:59
I think that's why we need a revolution. http://revcom.us/environment/index.html

Magón
17th April 2011, 00:18
Because even if we've already hit Peak Oil, (which isn't the burning or consumption of ALL oil, just the easy to reach oil that doesn't need to be horizontally drilled, which is a lot more expensive to get at, and damaging to the environment,) we still got this.

http://gasprices-usa.com/coal-train330.jpg

Coal is the second larges resource the US uses, and the number one largest resource the US has within it's borders. With the continuation to burn coal, and the smoke that's released by the coal plants, Global Warming/Climate Change, isn't going to settle down anytime soon or sort itself out with our without our help.

Like I said at the start, Peak Oil isn't the consumption or burning of all oil in the world, just the easy to reach stuff. But just because we might have to dig a bit deeper, with machinery and tools that, today, can't reach the harder to reach oil, it also means that gas prices and things made from oils various forms, will go up in price, much more than now.

It would be nice to seriously say that we can live without oil, here in the US anyway, but if you look at the roads, there are three times as many cars on the road, than say in the late 40s, after WW2, when all the soldiers were coming home, and buying cars, having families, etc. Nowadays, those who research and put money into alternative resources/energies, have to start competing more with the oil giants, than before. Because if we continue on the path we're on now, by the time we reach a decent renewable or safer energy/resource, the clock will have run out for both sides.

piet11111
17th April 2011, 16:33
Peak oil is when we reached our capacity for maximum extraction of oil.
When the easy to extract oil is depleted we have hit that peak but due to better technology we have delayed the moment of peak oil.