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Sasha
19th February 2011, 20:10
as far as i can gather from german indy the nazi march for the seccond year in a row didnt manage to leave the meeting point, many nazis never even made it to dresden and where forced to have illegal spontanius demos in other citys where they where met with counterdemonstrations and serious police repression. the nazi that did make it are now stuck in the meeting point as its not safe for them to go back home.
21.000 antifascists, from hardcore autonome to union and centrists groups blockaded, some fierce clashes happend, police used teargas and watercanons (in dresden its freezing like hell atm)

some raw footage: Ckkwvskug7g


German police clash with anti-neo Nazi protesters

By REUTERS
Published: Feb 19, 2011 20:06 Updated: Feb 19, 2011 20:06
BERLIN: German police used teargas, water cannon and truncheons on Saturday to control thousands of people protesting against neo-Nazis marching through the eastern city of Dresden in commemoration of a 1945 allied bombing.
The situation remains tense, Dresden police said. Thousands of violent activists have broken through police barriers in several places to get into the area allocated for the extreme right.
Almost 600 far-right protesters had gathered by early afternoon, with several hundreds more on the way to take part in three neo-Nazi marches given the go-ahead across Dresden on Saturday, police said.
Up to 6,000 neo-Nazis were expected to attend. Organizers of the counter-protests said there were more than 10,000 trying to block the neo-Nazis marches. Last week, some 17,000 people formed a human chain in Dresden to protest against far-right groups on a funeral march commemorating the 66th anniversary of the Allied bombing of the city during World War Two.
Police said three people had been detained.




german ticker: http://www.taz.de/1/politik/deutschland/artikel/1/live-ticker-neonazi-blockade-dresden/

updates on indy germany: http://de.indymedia.org/2011/02/300832.shtml

Sasha
19th February 2011, 20:30
update: several hundred nazi's tried to storm the alternative housing project "praxis", no serious injuries but considerable damage.

video of the attack:
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also, the cops stormed an party office of "die linke", several people got arrested

Sasha
19th February 2011, 20:32
cops separate blackblock and nazi'sQuNSOpcSbK8

Sasha
19th February 2011, 20:47
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/02/20/1226008/851599-germany-extremism-nazi-protest.jpg

Sasha
19th February 2011, 23:44
Lol, I just now see that the guy furthest on the right is making photobomb bunny ears behind the head of the guy next to him..... :laugh:
That must be one of the best ones I ever have seen....

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 04:38
Numbers I've heard: 3000 to 4000 Nazis in Dresden, between 10 and 20 thousand protesters. The only number I know for sure is the cop forces: 4600, way less than in past years, because cops were also needed at Derby matches and some still couldn't be sent out after the CASTOR transport. They had several eviction tanks, water tanks, and helicopters. Overall, there were too few cops to remove blockades and secure the Nazi march. There definitely were also less Nazis than the years before (which were between 5000 and 7000).

I'm sorta mad that I missed the action at Plaun, but when we heard of it we were too far away, there were tons of cops in between and we had to catch our bus back home, which was at the other side of south Dresden. Then again, I'm also somewhat happy. When it started there were about 700 to 1000 Nazis, no police. As soon as the info spread, small Antifa groups moved to the area, the first street fights were between a group of 700 Nazis and a group of 300 Antifa - serious power imbalance.

Anyway, my day:

Our convoy (7 buses) arrived in Dresden Plaun some time after 9am (9:20 or sth). We left the bus and had a strong march towards the innercity / central station. After a few minutes we met another convoy group (from Schleswig Holstein I think), which was already surrounded by cops from Berlin. The two marches merged and we continued in direction central station.

On campus of TU Dresden or somewhere next to it, we got kettled by police and blocked. Attempts to breach the kettle have been met with beatings, pepper spray and kicks to the stomach. One guy had his nose destroyed, several got beaten and peppered. There were a lot of backyards and small paths at that place, and people managed to escape every now and then. After some time (between 40 mins and 1 hour), suddenly another big march came from behind us, police forces were way too small to control that number of people. A bit of a chaos ensued, but a street was left unguarded and large groups split off into the residential area around the university.

Then started some serious chasing. We were constantly running from, hiding from, and trying to run around police. Police lines blocked several crucial spots so we couldn't get to our blockade spots. All in all, street maps proved to be uberhandy. The residents were also very helpful, many that were wandering around warned us of police locations, and some came out on their balcony to point us ways through backyards and gardens.

At around 12 we managed to breach through to the blockade at Fritz-Lffle Platz, which turned out to be a crucial one. We blocked both arriving Nazi buses (to central station) and the route of the Nazi march (from central station). At the start there were between 500 and 1000 people. Police told us we could have a rally, but we had to move out of the street. We refused obviously. The inforadio started mobilizing people to join us, at the same time there were about 6 other blockades in other spots of the city. Two water tanks and an eviction tank came to our place, and police started threatening with evicting us, so people sat down and clutched together. Small groups started pouring in from all sides, the numbers quickly grew from 500 people to well over 2000. While we were there, all sorts of reports came in - around 850 Neonazis were waiting at central station and mad as hell because they couldn't have their march. Around 2000 more were still expected and did not yet arrive (they were blocked out ;P), and some Nazi mobs were running around randomly rioting; some time later came the report of Nazis attacking "Praxis", as well as of street fights between leftists and police, I heard of burning barricades made of cop cars. Then came in reports that the Nazis may be given an alternative demo-route, and then that around 50 Nazis were having a spontaneous demo, surrounded by 4 rows of police.

Around 4pm we left the blockade because it was way cold (temperatures were around -5C I think, it was snowing the whole day) and headed to a nearby church. The community there had prepared food, tea, coffee and some room to warm up for protesters - all in all, I heard that 50 churches in Dresden did similar things. People there were really nice, and also very thankful that so many people came to block the Nazi march.

While we were at the church, shit went loose everywhere. The blockade we came from had been kettled. Police had announced to take everyone's identity and file lawsuits because of the blockade. Reports came in of some Nazis having an alternate march in Leipzig (which is about 1 hour from Dresden), and that mobs of Nazis, altogether estimated to be 2000 were running around in Dresden vandalizing and attacking stuff and people. Some leftist mob looted a supermarket. Then started the reports of Nazi activity in Plaun. Some of us wanted to go there, but our convoy was getting ready to leave Dresden at the other site of the city, so we headed towards central station. We went back to the now-kettled blockade, and witnessed a huge breach. Around 4000 people were there when the police chain got overrun and large masses of people poured out.

Not much happened on our way to central station, although I later heard from people that at the same time a Nazi demo was around central station, chased by an Anti-German demo.

We met some others and got back to the convoy. On the way home, the weirdest reports came in. Die BILD, Germany's most sold, very high quality right populist paper, stated that 25.000 peaceful Nazis were in the city but got smashed by 4000 violent, rioting Antifa. :thumbup1:

Reports came in that 3 Antifa got stabbed. That proved to be the other way - 3 Nazis got stabbed. In response to that, police raided a lot of leftist places, including the party office of Die Linke and of the group "Dresden Nazifrei", main organizers of the blockades.

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 11:14
Hardcore Anti-German blogs are complaining about the blockades being "nationalist unions" where people of all politics came together to "defend Germany", but this time in the police kettle and not in the kettle of Stalingrad.

Haha oh wow :lol:

Sasha
20th February 2011, 11:17
They are really turning sour huh, guess they are starting to feel they are on a dead end and will dwindle into obscurity sooner than later

Ravachol
20th February 2011, 11:58
Hardcore Anti-German blogs are complaining about the blockades being "nationalist unions" where people of all politics came together to "defend Germany", but this time in the police kettle and not in the kettle of Stalingrad.

Haha oh wow :lol:

Yeah, this damn unity of nationalists defending Germany against .... nationalists? :blink: They should really quit smoking so much crack, makes them paranoid.

That being said, there is such a thing as 'patriotic anti-fascism' ofcourse, the interbellum Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbanner_Schwarz-Rot-Gold) of the SPD being one example, the resistance of non-fascist 'patriots' to Nazi occupation another. But this is more or less integral to broad anti-fascism, you'll have all kinds of opposition to fascism which espouse this or that bourgeois ideology but whatever, the anti-Deutschen are the last who have the right to complain...

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 13:41
Some new numbers: A lot more than 10.000 protesters (trade unions speak of roughly 21.000, some newspapers also use figures around 20.000) and about 2.500 Nazis (4000 were expected; some newspapers speak of 600 Nazis at central station, unknown numbers elsewhere).

Pictures from Dresden by Antifa Westhavelland:


Arrival:

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300922.jpg

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300923.jpg

Pictures from the police attack at and around Liebigstrae (Liebig 14 is everywhere! :lol:):

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300926.jpg

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300925.jpg

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300924.jpg

Nazis at central station ...:

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300928.jpg

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300927.jpg

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300929.jpg

...and Nazis trying to breach the police kettle:

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300930.jpg

Look at that fucking smokescreen:

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300931.jpg

Barricades:

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300932.jpg

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300933.jpg

Police moving in on blockers in Bergstrae:

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300935.jpg

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300936.jpg

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300934.jpg

Police blocking the Nazi march in Plaun:

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300937.jpg

Police and Antifa in Zwickaustrae (in / near Plaun):

http://media.de.indymedia.org/images/2011/02/300938.jpg

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 13:44
The Nazi's Plan B to have a march in Leipzig instead failed, police kettled about 500 Nazis inside, while around 800 protesters were waiting outside.


Outside:

http://leipzig-seiten.de/images/stories/2011/polizei/lz/neonazi_hauptbahnhof1.jpg

http://leipzig-seiten.de/images/stories/2011/polizei/lz/neonazi_hauptbahnhof3.jpg

http://leipzig-seiten.de/images/stories/2011/polizei/lz/neonazi_hauptbahnhof2.jpg

Inside (Nazis):

http://leipzig-seiten.de/images/stories/2011/polizei/lz/neonazi_hauptbahnhof.jpg

Pictures by STERN (rightist tabloid):


http://d1.stern.de/bilder/stern_5/panorama/2011/KW07/dresden6_maxsize_735_490.jpg

http://d1.stern.de/bilder/stern_5/panorama/2011/KW07/dresden9_maxsize_735_490.jpg

"Hau''se" Pau and "Blockier'se" Thierse ("Beat'em" Pau and "Block'em" Thierse; two German politicians who have a tradition of joining the illegal Anti-Nazi blockades; they were attacked by other MPs and German courts for this in the past):

http://d1.stern.de/bilder/stern_5/panorama/2011/KW07/dresden10_maxsize_735_490.jpg

Autonomen with Tonfas (and there is, of course, an outrage over this in German media. How COULD they wear weapons!? Not like the peaceful police :rolleyes: ):

http://d1.stern.de/bilder/stern_5/panorama/2011/KW07/dresden11_maxsize_735_490.jpg

http://d1.stern.de/bilder/stern_5/panorama/2011/KW07/Dresden13_maxsize_735_490.jpg

Police apparently used gas grenades and pepperballs (projectiles with pepperspray'ish substances inside), which are usually not allowed / not part of the German police's arsenal. According to some sources they used those weapons for the first time last year:


http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/244311046.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1298205970&Signature=mD3y/DfdZK0r8KcZvKZVuS%2Bp5/0%3D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3344/3280151402_d549cd912f_z.jpg

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 13:46
During the day I've heard reports that the SEK (Sondereinsatz Kommand; Special Operation Command; comparable to SWAT) raided the TU Dresden, but can't find any source on it.



Pics from Flickr:


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5459083385_bd17fa1a47_z.jpg

(Says "Street - Work - Parliament / Block Nazis wherever they march / move - organize - fight / marxists")

Police:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5459089173_f7fb62cc96_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5459089173_f7fb62cc96_z.jpg

Water Tank:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5459701984_653d008dc3_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5019/5459699242_e7204dde8b_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5054/5459097085_a66066a3a6_z.jpg

Burning car (I think):

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5459094865_4c64dd1697_z.jpg

Barricades:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5215/5459697086_134cdd1812_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5459090701_a4997fba90_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5459695392_9edaa62f88_z.jpg

(^ it was cold as hell :D)

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 13:48
More pics (by N-TV, under the [at least somewhat fitting] title "riots accompany peaceful protests"):


Blockade:

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657471/O_680_380_680_1298129106.jpg1911312050178599315.jp g

Nazis around central station:

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657401/O_680_380_680_1298131185.jpg5375070844535011372.jp g

Nazis trying to kick it off in Leipzig:

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2658066/O_680_380_680_190211hal104-190211hal104.jpg2106048460167820761.jpg

One of the lots of Antifa Demos:

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657461/O_680_380_680_190211pla101-190211pla101.jpg933023065092154083.jpg

Barricades:

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657436/O_680_380_680_190211dre105-190211dre105.jpg2443578992055318201.jpg

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657431/O_680_380_680_190211DRE206-190211DRE206.jpg1242155910419514939.jpg

Coppers:

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657516/O_680_380_680_1298128898.jpg2821783075465031050.jp g

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657421/O_680_380_680_2011-02-19T151922Z-01-DWC01-RTRMDNP-3-GERMANY.JPG418892186000646524.jpg

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657446/O_680_380_680_2w934007.jpg5131513314108340919.jpg

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657491/O_680_380_680_190211dre109-190211dre109.jpg2909591364535081626.jpg

People attacking a police barricade:

http://www.n-tv.de/img/26/2657541/O_680_380_680_2011-02-19T152644Z-01-DWC04-RTRMDNP-3-GERMANY.JPG1752647628658061019.jpg

ps: fuck this "20pics per post" shit :mad:

Stand Your Ground
20th February 2011, 13:59
Great work comrades. We need more action like this over the rest of the world.

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 14:04
Newsupdate from Indymedia ( http://linksunten.indymedia.org/de/node/34209 ):

Comrade* Denny Rei from Buchholz took a couple of pictures of his weekend trip and posted them on Facebook. This is what the master race looks like:

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34239.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34221.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34229.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34233.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34227.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34228.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34241.jpg

(^banner says "German eyes are blinded by tears as they came to kill")

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34243.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34244.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34237.jpg

(^ "Dresden 1945 / The Rhineland mourns 250.000 victims")

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34235.jpg

(^ "66 years after still no forgiving or forgetting / funeral march in memory of the victims of allied bombing terror in Germany and Zweibrcken / on the 12.03.11 in Zweibrcken / website tralstes as "national resistance Zweibrcken")

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34219.jpg

http://linksunten.indymedia.org/image/34220.jpg

(*Comrade is the translation of both "Kamerad", which is what German Nazis call each other, and "Genosse", which is what German unionist, Marxist and Party-organized leftists call each other).

Montag451
20th February 2011, 14:23
It looks like the nazis got owned in almost every aspect.
But it seems to me that they had better graphic apperance. More flags and banners with better graphics. These graphics are mostly antifa/autonome copies,but i havent seen any classic antifa bnners in Dresden yet.
I know this seems minor but these things are important especially in today's media visual coverage.

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 15:47
It looks like the nazis got owned in almost every aspect.
But it seems to me that they had better graphic apperance. More flags and banners with better graphics. These graphics are mostly antifa/autonome copies,but i havent seen any classic antifa bnners in Dresden yet.
I know this seems minor but these things are important especially in today's media visual coverage.

Can't confirm that. There were lots of banners and flags, of all kinds (classic Antifa, Anarchists, Commie, Die Linke, Linksjugend [solid], Anarchafeminists, Queers, Gay rights, Antigerman stuff like UK/Israel/US flags, Grne jugend, SDS, some people from Denmark, etc.)

irfanlal
20th February 2011, 16:27
I read that at least 82 cops have been injured(smoe of them heavily according to the chief of Dresden police D. Hanitsch) and 50 antifa demonstrants have been arrested..
Staatsfeind or psycho any video of clash of police and the antifa demnostrants(except those first three)?

Mather
20th February 2011, 16:43
Can't confirm that. There were lots of banners and flags, of all kinds (classic Antifa, Anarchists, Commie, Die Linke, Linksjugend [solid], Anarchafeminists, Queers, Gay rights, Antigerman stuff like UK/Israel/US flags, Grne jugend, SDS, some people from Denmark, etc.)

Whilst I have ideological issues with those sections of the Anti-Germans who support US, British and Israeli nationalism (the Bahamas tendency etc...), on the whole the German anti-fascist movement is impressive, especially when compared to places like Britain. The German anti-fascist movement has a great deal of militancy and diversity, I guess having experienced fascist rule first hand, people in Germany know exactly what they are up against.

Keep up the good work.

thälmann
20th February 2011, 20:13
everything in german, but nice pictures

from "leftvision" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAxUuOaoYbA&feature=player_embedded

a long summary from local tv : http://www.mdr.de/sachsenspiegel/8250297.html

PhoenixAsh
20th February 2011, 20:39
On the dutch pages of stromfront the attack on Praxis is condemned as useless and only playing into the cards of anti-nazi propaganda. THis resulted in a debate about propaganda tactics.

It has also been reported on these pages that the police and AFA are searching for the culprits and warnings have been issued to delete any usefull info from stromfront + individual accounts.

As per usual the fascists are calling AFA a left-fascist organisation and they do not understand why we do not like them...

As per usual again tehy condemn the violence used by the AFA and state that this serves their propaganda to show they are paceful but its the left that uses violence and is destructive towards people and property.

All in all they think the day went great....

Widerstand
20th February 2011, 22:15
I read that at least 82 cops have been injured(smoe of them heavily according to the chief of Dresden police D. Hanitsch) and 50 antifa demonstrants have been arrested..
Staatsfeind or psycho any video of clash of police and the antifa demnostrants(except those first three)?

Police numbers are always risky. A cop is a very sensitive human being, and these damn leftists love assaulting copfists with their teeth.

As for reports on arrests, I didn't hear anything from EA or prisoner support yet (and the dresden-nazifrei website is, of course, down after the raid).

However, ARAB speaks of 2000 Nazis, over 20.000 protesters, and 79 arrested protesters.

Some videos:

Fritz Frster Platz kettle breach:

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Fights between leftists and Nazis:

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Police removes the blockade at Bergstrae:

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Leftists attack a police station (yellow building):

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It has also been reported on these pages that the police and AFA are searching for the culprits and warnings have been issued to delete any usefull info from stromfront + individual accounts.

Obviously. HD pics from the youtube video are already circulating Antifa sites.

PhoenixAsh
20th February 2011, 22:52
Obviously. HD pics from the youtube video are already circulating Antifa sites.

Good thing...they were worried about it. So that tells something of their insecurity. There were some vids earlier but they were gone before I could get them. :(

thälmann
21st February 2011, 12:53
article in english with pics and videos

http://de.indymedia.org/2011/02/301006.shtml