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ÑóẊîöʼn
15th February 2011, 22:32
The Register.co.uk article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/15/ecstasy/)

Ecstasy doesn't make rave-goers any stupider - official

Going to raves, though...

By Lewis Page • Get more from this author

Posted in Science, 15th February 2011 16:25 GMT

Using ecstasy appears to have no effects on "cognitive performance", according to a new study which controls for other factors such as repeated sleep deprivation, dehydration and the possibility of being drunk or drugged while taking intelligence tests.

"Researchers have known for a long time that earlier studies of ecstasy use had problems that later studies should try to correct," says Doctor John Halpern MD, lead boffin* on the study.

"When [the US National Institute on Drug Abuse] decided to fund this project, we saw an opportunity to design a better experiment and advance our knowledge of this drug."

Before testing their group of ecstasy users for "cognitive impairment", Halpern and his colleagues eliminated several sources of potential error in previous studies. As well as the actual pill-poppers, the non-using control group were also apparently "members of the 'rave' subculture and thus repeatedly exposed to sleep and fluid deprivation from all-night dancing - factors that themselves can produce long-lasting cognitive effects".

Then, the participants were tested to make sure they weren't still under the influence of drugs or booze while taking the tests, and those who habitually used other drugs which might erode their cognitive powers were also weeded out. The test subjects were repeatedly tested for drugs and booze to make sure they had told the truth in questionnaires.

All in all, this reduced the numbers from an original 1500 recruits to 52 ecstasy users and 59 ravey non-users. The pill-fanciers showed no appreciable deterioration in cognitive function compared to the hard-partying non-users.

Open and shut then - ecstasy truly is the miracle fun drug with no evil consequences.

"No," says Halpern, bluntly. "Ecstasy consumption is dangerous: illegally-made pills can contain harmful contaminants, there are no warning labels, there is no medical supervision, and in rare cases people are physically harmed and even die from overdosing. [emphasis added]

"It is important for drug-abuse information to be accurate, and we hope our report will help upgrade public health messages. But while we found no ominous, concerning risks to cognitive performance, that is quite different from concluding that ecstasy use is 'risk-free'."

Of course, one might speculate that the mental level of a person who can tolerate being "a member of the 'rave' subculture" without the use of powerful mind-altering chemicals may not be exactly the same as that of the general population. Certainly such people seem to be a tiny minority.

It's possible that the users had in fact been dumbed down by their pill-popping to the same reduced level of cognition required to handle ravegoing without drugs.

Those interested and willing to stump up the cash can read the study paper here, published in the journal Addiction. ®
Bootnote

*Halpern is a real doctor and is a professor of Psychiatry, not Psychology. As such we have chosen to give him this honourable title rather than "trick-cyclist" or similar, even though he is operating in the grey area of intelligence testing.

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The bolded section sounds like a strong argument for legalisation and real drug education to me.

The Red Next Door
15th February 2011, 23:04
I beg to differ, after hearing about a ecstasy head, injecting himself with glow liquid and he died, a glowy mess. :D

Plus that shit not good for the heart, so go with the herb.

Bardo
15th February 2011, 23:10
^ 1,000 ways to die :D

MDMA isn't cardiotoxic either, although it is believed to become neurotoxic in large doses. I've done it many many times with no adverse effects in terms of cognitive function.

Just a case of the blah's the next day while my serotonin levels recover.

The Red Next Door
15th February 2011, 23:13
^ 1,000 ways to die :D

MDMA isn't cardiotoxic either, although it is believed to become neurotoxic in large doses. I've done it many many times with no adverse effects in terms of cognitive function.

Just a case of the blah's the next day while my serotonin levels recover.

Damn, straight. That came out of 1,000 ways to die. Maybe you guys should watch it.

Amphictyonis
15th February 2011, 23:53
From my experience as a youth it drains all of your serotonin and makes you quite depressed if you do it often. Once every other month or so may not drain your 'feel good' chemicals in the brain.

Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk
16th February 2011, 00:27
all of the bad aspects of any drug could be avoided given there was adequate drug education initiatives and support systems available to people. i've used all sorts of drugs with no resulting health problems thanks to my own research into drugs, unfortunately this education isn't mainstream and many people suffer as a result of that fact.

Salyut
16th February 2011, 00:29
"No," says Halpern, bluntly. "Ecstasy consumption is dangerous: illegally-made pills can contain harmful contaminants, there are no warning labels, there is no medical supervision, and in rare cases people are physically harmed and even die from overdosing.

...So....legalize?

Across The Street
16th February 2011, 00:40
Stfu

Jazzratt
16th February 2011, 01:22
...So....legalize? lol, Drug policy based on evidence.

gorillafuck
16th February 2011, 01:44
Jazzratt that's stupid. You're stupid.

Political_Chucky
16th February 2011, 02:54
Bullshit to anyone that says otherwise. Ecstasy should be legalized, or if not, decriminalized. Its ridiculous that its a schedule 1 drug when it has obvious potential medical benefits for psychiatry. This is especially since opiates such as Opium and Oxycodone have "medical benifets to pain"(which marijuana could easily replace also) and all psychedelic drugs are schedule 1(which could be an aid to mental health.) Why should people be forced to take Prozac or Zoloft that have less success rates(only 18% successful compared to that of a placebo) and when the side effects are hideous. The only thing that needs to be done is educate people on how its used, just like any drug. It can be used as a tool.


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