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jmpeer
13th February 2011, 17:47
I think government should be a centralized, regionally managed, democratically controlled system. The overriding source of power should start from the people. There should be democratic local government. There should be representative democratic regional government, consisting of multiple levels of regions if necessary. And, there should be representative democratic central government. Representatives should be subject to immediate recall, limited in the time they can serve in office, and elected by the people in their region of representation, not representatives. There should be, of course, a constitution guarenteeing the rights of the people, rule of law, trial by jury, burden of proof, and other aspects and functions of government that make it balanced, objective, and humane.

I think the use of money and the effect of ownership should be abolished, of business, property, and everything else. Property rights should be more explicit. And, utility and strategic access of resources should be built into the enviornment, so as to facilitate this.

I think restructuring and technology should be fully pursued and employed to eliminate, automate, mechanize, or facilitate work. The remaining work, if not voluntarily met, should be mandated and organized at the democratic local level.

Then lastly, I think this is not possible through reform, revolution, or awareness, rather a collectivization of a specific skill set, engineering and experimentation of such a society, and if successful, will inevitably lead to the right conditions for a popular global revolution, though not all at once, of course.

With that being said, should I be subscribing to a specific communist's / socialist's theories? Is there a label associated with these ideas? Do I need to be more specific? I know very little about popular philosophical figures, literature, etc. And, I know a lot of you keep mentioning you think there should be no government, which I disagree with, hardly mention the role of technology, and believe in that whole intrinsic motivation thing for work, which I also don't think is enough. I'm a little lost as to whether there even is a label associated with my ideas.

Victus Mortuum
13th February 2011, 17:55
Read some basic works on the philosophies of Marxism and Anarchism. Then go check out some basic works on/by major individuals within both philosophies. Perhaps start understanding the merits and drawbacks of the strategies of Partyism and Syndicalism and Communityism (name?) after that.

No need for a particular label, just understanding and then action.

Paulappaul
13th February 2011, 18:08
I think government should be a centralized, regionally managed, democratically controlled system. Regional management under a democratic system seems like an Antithesis to Centralized Government. The earlier sounds more along the lines of Federalism which an Anarchist would be for, while the later sounds more like Leninism.


I think the use of money and the effect of ownership should be abolished, of business, property, and everything else. Property rights should be more explicit. And, utility and strategic access of resources should be built into the enviornment, so as to facilitate this.Sorta sounds like Anarcho - Communism.


I think restructuring and technology should be fully pursued and employed to eliminate, automate, mechanize, or facilitate work. The remaining work, if not voluntarily met, should be mandated and organized at the democratic local level.Sounds techonocratic.


Then lastly, I think this is not possible through reform, revolution, or awareness, rather a collectivization of a specific skill set, engineering and experimentation of such a society, and if successful, will inevitably lead to the right conditions for a popular global revolution, though not all at once, of courseAll and all, these leads me to believe you're just a Democratic Socialist. Your values don't seem Marxist or Anarchist, but in the general belief that the Capitalist system can be transformed without Class Struggle. Your ideal government seems something the SP-USA or multitendency party would formulate.

JerryBiscoTrey
13th February 2011, 18:20
At some points in your description it sounds like Anarcho-Communism and at other points it sounds along the lines of Democratic Socialism


Your ideal government seems something the SP-USA or multitendency party would formulate.

I agree

Vampire Lobster
13th February 2011, 18:22
Don't identify yourself with a label. It will needlessly just make other revolutionary leftists dislike you because x did y in 1932 and that's like completely terrible and then assume you have opinions you don't in reality have.