Chemical Revolution

[OldMoney]

This talk about Immortality has got me thinking. Given current trends; unless something drastic happens, there will be more children born in the next generation than in this current one ergo children really are the future. Now we all know that children like to experiment with drugs. The imperialists use drugs to retain control. Ronald Regan put crack in the ghetto`s to keep the Black Man down, and the government allows alcohol to be consumed as a form of opiate for the masses, and perhaps to keep wage slaves from thinking clearly when they are not working, preventing them to see the reality of thier enslavement.

Psychologists today understand so much about how the brain works. They are able to detect what parts of the brain are stimulated durring specific thought processes. The brain has a certain chemical balance and drugs can be used to change that balance to achieve a desired effect. Greed is a disease that needs to be cured. So I say we create a drug that cures peoples greed, as well as will balance thier brain to think on simalar patterns to that of leftists. This drug should be addicitve as well. Now when someone does something of an altruistic manner, the brain releases endorphins so it will naturlay make people feel good, but im thinking that we should put in some sort of an opiate or something to make the user feel that slight wave of euphoria in addition to the natural endorphins.

So we create this drug that cures people of thier greed and makes them feel great. It could also have some consciousness expanding properties to help open thier eyes to the relaity of the world they are living in. Break the veil of ignorance fed to them from birth. So youth are also susceptible to trends and fads, so when we market this drug we make discussing leftist priciples and ideologies the "cool" thing to do on it. Now since the brain releases endorphins when someone does something altruistic, we could design the drug in a way that the more goof things you do, or the more you understand leftist theory the higher you get while on the drug. Also we could design it to use the psychotropic properties to help them visualize what the future would be like after the fall of capitolism.

So with our current technology I am prety sure this could be done. What do you all think? Is this a viable option for revolution?

[bcbm]

have you heard of "the sixties?"

[OldMoney]

I am a huge fan of Dr.Timothy Leary's work, yes Ive heard of the sixties, but I am not talking about just LSD, this drug would be far more advanced in its design, and more specific in its function. Allthough its interesting that some of the studies that Leary conducted with guided trips parallel some of the results that physicists are comming up with string theory the different universes that coexist with our that we are not able to percive on a daily basis, that were discovered while under the guided influence of LSD

[bcbm]

yeah lets drug everyone to freedom...

come on it should be really clear how fucked that idea is

[OldMoney]

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Like I highlighted in the OP, the imperialists use drugs to enslave our brothers and sisters, and while it maybe isnt th mmost ethical solution we need to be willing to use similar tactics to that of our enemies. Im trying to think outside of the box here. tjis is supposed to be a revolutionary idea, and it seems to me that bringing people euphoria and communism is far better than a bloody battle to the death against the land owners.

[bcbm]

if we need to use similar tactics to our enemies why don't we just enslave everyone for freedom?

our solution has to be "ethical" precisely because our enemies are not; we are fighting for a true humanity a humanity freed of the degradation and slavery we currently experience and the struggle for this will and must be a human struggle not a cheap coercion. you can't be conned into freedom we can't just play tricks or drug people or enslave people "for their own good" thats exactly what is wrong with the world now we want something ebtter

[The Vegan Marxist]

Why not revolutionize our education to where the next generations realize how fucking stupid it is to have more 1 or 2 children?

[OldMoney]

and I totaly get that we need to be better than our enemy, but it just seems like they are to huge of an opponent and have too much of the power to beat fighting clean. A cheap and dirty solution is better than no solution, Im sick of living under thier god damb rule and curently see no end in sight. So if its fighting dirty than booyah. Once people have changed and we overthrow the capitolists and move into socialism we can stop druging people. Unless they want to be drugged, which btw would b allowed in a comunist utopia, however probably unnecisary due to the perfect equilibriem we will feel, but I digress, to hell with ethics until the battle is won.

[The Vegan Marxist]

and I totaly get that we need to be better than our enemy, but it just seems like they are to huge of an opponent and have too much of the power to beat fighting clean. A cheap and dirty solution is better than no solution, Im sick of living under thier god damb rule and curently see no end in sight. So if its fighting dirty than booyah. Once people have changed and we overthrow the capitolists and move into socialism we can stop druging people. Unless they want to be drugged, which btw would b allowed in a comunist utopia, however probably unnecisary due to the perfect equilibriem we will feel, but I digress, to hell with ethics until the battle is won.

I think you've been doing too much drugs as is.

[OldMoney]

Probably :rolleyes:

[bcbm]

saying "well once we get to xyz we'll be better" has been the problem with our movement... "oh the state will wither away" "oh its just a dictatorship until we win" etc etc our enemy is powerful and harsh but there are ever evolving ways to challenge and thwart power and it is possible "revolution" won't even be a matter of totally beating them at their own game but starting a new game and just expanding it until they no longer have power, ie fighting copyright by pirating but on a much bigger scale ie fighting capitalist relations by forming immediate communist relations

[Ele'ill]

Drugs don't work the same with everyone and we might find our society in the middle of a massive crisis. There will be the risk of further power imbalances etc (In regards to forcing drugs on people)

just nevermind-

[psgchisolm]

saying "well once we get to xyz we'll be better" has been the problem with our movement... "oh the state will wither away" "oh its just a dictatorship until we win" etc etc our enemy is powerful and harsh but there are ever evolving ways to challenge and thwart power and it is possible "revolution" won't even be a matter of totally beating them at their own game but starting a new game and just expanding it until they no longer have power, ie fighting copyright by pirating but on a much bigger scale ie fighting capitalist relations by forming immediate communist relations
I was wondering if anyone else was noticing the double standards that's strewn in a fair amount of revleft threads. With what Mariel said, drugs don't work with everone and they have different effects on people. With that said, you want to drug people into "opening" their eyes? Sounds a bit along the lines if brainwashing. Another problem would the FDA allow such a drug to be marketed? Would we even want to market such a drug? What type of backlash could this have against us? The media would demonize us to no end and with good reason imo if we did this.

[Delirium]

Umm psychedelics are definitely not for everyone. Especially designer drugs or rc's, that have very little test history. Dosing people without thier knowledge and consent is unethical.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Try getting a degree in behavioural pharmacology, and then get back to us. Perhaps then you'd realise the magnitude of what you're asking.