Mubarak Resigned!!! (yay)

[TC]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12433045

Title says it all - Mubarak resigned!

How awesome is that?

[F9]

It sounded better on the other earlier threads:lol:

[Le Libérer]

I cant wait to get to rs2k and tell him, he was in tears when I informed him they had started revolting. Its a great day indeed. Now hopefully revolution will spread to the other parts of the region.

I wish I was there dancing in the streets with our comrades!

[piet11111]

I hope the people wont be distracted just because Mubarak is gone does not mean that the regime is gone.

But this is a victory that hopefully will encourage them to go all the way and i have good hope they will.

[TC]

I hope the people wont be distracted just because Mubarak is gone does not mean that the regime is gone.


...I think its really pretty gone: there was a defacto military coup detat - the vice president and the whole cabinet are gone. Whether the new military government transfers to a bourgeois democracy or maintains a military government it is definitely a different government from the last one.

If you mean, all the way to socialism though - I don't think thats part of the protesters demand.

[Le Libérer]

...I think its really pretty gone: there was a defacto military coup detat - the vice president and the whole cabinet are gone. Whether the new military government transfers to a bourgeois democracy or maintains a military government it is definitely a different government from the last one.

If you mean, all the way to socialism though - I don't think thats part of the protesters demand.

Actually their demands do surround worker issues. They are tired of their oppression and lack of jobs, and stood up to the regime.

[TC]

Actually their demands do surround worker issues. They are tired of their oppression and lack of jobs, and stood up to the regime.

But they're social democratic workers demands that can be accomomidated within social democratic bourgeois governance - they aren't demanding general collective ownership and management.

[Patchd]

Let's see what happens first. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/dolo_amber/poopcorn.gif

[RedTrackWorker]

But they're social democratic workers demands that can be accomomidated within social democratic bourgeois governance - they aren't demanding general collective ownership and management.

First, to your previous comment on whether or not the "regime" is gone. Maybe it depends on how one defines "regime" as the military was always in control and the major civilian leaders like Mubarak were always military figures. As for if the old party is removed from power in a formal sense, that's not clear yet.
Second, this idea that their demands are only "social democratic" is a bit schematic. For one, see the demands of the Helwan Iron and Steel Workers (http://leninology.blogspot.com/2011/02/egypts-working-class-is-on-move.html) who demand, for instance, "Formation of a workers' monitoring committee in all work places monitoring production, prices, distribution and wages." They further demand nationalization under workers' and technicians' management of all public sector companies and all property "of previous regime and everyone proved corrupt."
Who are these workers? They're a factory that has a long history of struggle, including a sit-in that continued production under workers' management, plus supporting other striking workers in Egypt and supporting the Palestinian resistance. They planned to march yesterday (Friday) in Cairo to popularize these demands (read the whole thing, including for committees to elect a constituent assembly).

But more importantly, a changed regime isn't going to meet the masses' economic or political aspirations. That won't automatically move the masses to socialism, but it does mean if revolutionary workers build their party they can win the leadership of the masses in struggle despite looking at their consciousness or current demands in the empirical way you do in this comment.

[piet11111]

...I think its really pretty gone: there was a defacto military coup detat - the vice president and the whole cabinet are gone. Whether the new military government transfers to a bourgeois democracy or maintains a military government it is definitely a different government from the last one.

As RedTrackWorker points out the regime always rested on the army and security forces and those organisations supplied people for government positions.

I think that the army realized that the people where going to win and they replaced the figurehead of government to appease them while still retaining all of the other officials.

New faces will be brought in but if its up to the army that would be the only change that is going to happen.