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Rafiq
10th February 2011, 21:02
True or false?

StalinFanboy
10th February 2011, 21:05
Everyone did opium back then.

Rafiq
10th February 2011, 21:10
Did this influence his works? (Specifically on Dialectics?) :D Jk jk

Os Cangaceiros
10th February 2011, 21:10
He'd definitely be in the drug talk group.

Widerstand
10th February 2011, 23:01
Did this influence his works? (Specifically on Dialectics?) :D Jk jk

Hegel certainly overdosed on opium.

Nietzsche was straight edge.

Pavlov's House Party
11th February 2011, 03:21
who cares

bcbm
11th February 2011, 06:56
opium is awesome

Rafiq
11th February 2011, 20:05
Hegel certainly overdosed on opium.



Now THAT I could believe.

#FF0000
11th February 2011, 20:23
Opium was p. much a medicine back then, I think.

Zanthorus
11th February 2011, 20:36
True, he took it as a medicine. This is from a letter from Jenny Marx to Engels dated 12th April 1857:


Chaley’s [i.e. Karl's] head hurts him almost everywhere, terrible tooth-ache, pains in the ears, head, eyes, throat and God knows what else. Neither opium pills nor creosote do any good.

Jazzratt
11th February 2011, 20:40
True, he took it as a medicine. This is from a letter from Jenny Marx to Engels dated 12th April 1857: I like that they used creosote as well, isn't that the stuff you put on your fence? :lol:

bcbm
12th February 2011, 06:07
yeah its always as "mecidine" i mean kurt cobain only took heroin for his "stomach problems"

TC
12th February 2011, 08:13
Everyone used opium in the 19th century and in the latter 1/3rd of the 19th century everyone was using cocaine. The Victorians were not conservative when it came to drug use!

Paulappaul
12th February 2011, 22:11
True or false?

I'm pretty sure Morphine which doctors prescribe all the time is an Opioid derivative. There's really nothing weird in the usage of it.

ÑóẊîöʼn
12th February 2011, 22:37
Everyone used opium in the 19th century and in the latter 1/3rd of the 19th century everyone was using cocaine. The Victorians were not conservative when it came to drug use!

How would they have reacted to cannabis smoking?

bcbm
12th February 2011, 22:59
How would they have reacted to cannabis smoking?

the queen smoked that shit

ÑóẊîöʼn
13th February 2011, 03:42
the queen smoked that shit

I'm given to understand that it was used in medicinal tinctures, but smoking it for pleasure was something else, I think.

Jimmie Higgins
13th February 2011, 03:53
Working parents would give laudanum to keep their kids calm and off the streets back then. Opium was used in medicine and also - obviously - abused back then.

Makes you think twice about the "Opiate of the masses" line eh? In that context, Religion is a false cure for social ills just as opiates sooth rather than cure pain - not as the right-wing describes the quote as some kind of attack on people who believe in religion.

synthesis
13th February 2011, 10:37
Working parents would give laudanum to keep their kids calm and off the streets back then. Opium was used in medicine and also - obviously - abused back then.

Makes you think twice about the "Opiate of the masses" line eh? In that context, Religion is a false cure for social ills just as opiates sooth rather than cure pain - not as the right-wing describes the quote as some kind of attack on people who believe in religion.

I don't understand how anyone who looks at the full quote could possibly see it as attack on religious people or really even religion at all. He makes it very clear that the problem is with conditions, not with religion. I think the hard anti-theism was really Bakunin's thing.

Vanguard1917
13th February 2011, 14:59
I'm given to understand that it was used in medicinal tinctures, but smoking it for pleasure was something else, I think.

I'm sure Queen Victoria looked forward to her 'time of the month' like it was Christmas.

It is for one's menstrual pains.

'Course it is, your majesty... ;)

the last donut of the night
13th February 2011, 23:03
I'm given to understand that it was used in medicinal tinctures, but smoking it for pleasure was something else, I think.

not sure about england, but chocolate bonbons made with weed were pretty common in the US

Os Cangaceiros
13th February 2011, 23:42
420 smoke weed everyday.

there you have it, folks. I'm suprised that Zanthorus didn't mention this.

synthesis
13th February 2011, 23:52
420 smoke weed everyday.

This was also his user name on XBox Live, correct?

Jimmie Higgins
14th February 2011, 09:58
I don't understand how anyone who looks at the full quote could possibly see it as attack on religious people or really even religion at all. He makes it very clear that the problem is with conditions, not with religion. I think the hard anti-theism was really Bakunin's thing.

Yup. I also don't understand how the right-wing thinks that Obama is an anti-business socialist after giving 700 billion to the banks and making the working class pay for it. But they do.:rolleyes:

Os Cangaceiros
14th February 2011, 10:36
Obama, the Kenyan Marxist with an economic policy team made up entirely of hedge fund managers and investment bankers, and who's latest pick for chief of staff (Bill Daley) spent seven years working for JP Morgan Chase (including working on it's executive committee and supporting NAFTA during his time with the Clinton administration).

His stealth communism really is quite insidious.