Negro

[Dark Capitalist]

I made a poll about this some time ago over at ISF.


Do you find the word negro offensive?

1. Yes

2. No

3. I hate niggers.


No. 2 for me.

[Guest1]

you could have made this into a poll. and I'm not surprised, you got that bundel of twigs in your avatar.

[Dark Capitalist]

We can't make polls in OI.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Fucking Loser. I can't believe you actually did this again after looking like such a moron on ISF.


Switched that avatar image right quick didn't he CyM?

[Dark Capitalist]

What are you talking about?

[CubanFox]

You lot do actually understand what that "bundle of twigs" stands for, right?

EDIT: Yes, negro is offensive because it was used to refer to black people during the slavery years, and thus has alot of negative baggage.

You knew that it was racist, you fascist.

[FistFullOfSteel]

I take 1

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Meh, I just thought it was a name for black people, like caucasian is for whites.
It depends on the use of the word and the attitude with which you say it.
What's in a name? a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet, just
as black people by any other name would still be just as put upon.

The only exception here is 'nigger' and 'wog'.
Those words could of ended up as affectionate nicknames (!) but instead because
of their usage they have been so dirtied they are an insult

.02

[Vinny Rafarino]

I've never met an english speaking black man who refers to himself as a "negro".


We of course are not referring to languages where "negro" means the colour black.


What this filthy 17 year old twat DC wants here is a reaction, this stupid thread is simply rhetorical. He knows "negro" is offensive to black americans as well as he knows not to stick his grimy capitalist paw into a hot fryer.

I ask all yanquis to answer this question;

If you met a group of say, 15 black men in a park, would you ever dare say "how are you negroes doing today?" Would you even dare to say such a thing to even one black man?

No, of course you wouldn't. You would refrain out of fear of having your nuts cut off and fed to you. Get real assholes, we are not buying your cheap and disgusting threads designed to emotionally hurt the black population of this board while you sit back and hide in your bedroom inside your mummy and daddy's home on the 4th green of the country club golf course. We also don't want to hear you then pour out excuses of ignorance to what black people think to cover your racist arse.

You bastards know good and fucking well what black people think. It's not like you live your entire lives in a white-bread cave. And I don't want to hear that "gee whiz, I like black people, some of my best friends are black" line of bullshit either.

Those are the same crackers that hold their purses tight when a black man gets on the lift with them, the same racist pigs that check to see if their wallet is still in their pocket when that same mans exits the elevator, making you go up another flight 'cos he happened to get off on your floor.

What you think he used some triple-dog secret haitian voodoo spell to magically nick your wallet? Remember "those people" all do that blasphemous voodoo stuff. Just like "they" all crave fried chicken and watermelon all day long. Did you know "they" all carry around a trunk full of watermelons in their "cadillac eldorados", when they're "scoping out" their next drive-by victims, just in case of emergencies? You never know when that craving for watermelon and fried chicken is gonna rear up...Good thing there's a Popeye's chicken right around the corner eh? Gotta gives them negroes a place to congregate so they don't start rapin' all the white ladies in a fit of "fired chicken fury" eh?

You fucking animals, you make me sick to be white.

Edit:

Fuck off DC.

[CubanFox]

Bravo, RAF. Bravo.

[Bianconero]

Useless thread started by a useless poster, only proves that racism is indeed a by - product of capitalism.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 7 2003, 06:30 PM
I ask all yanquis to answer this question;

If you met a group of say, 15 black men in a park, would you ever dare say "how are you negroes doing today?" Would you even dare to say such a thing to even one black man?

ROFL - very good point :)

[Dirty Commie]

However, negroe is a spanish word, but in spanish speaking countries I'm not sure of the context in which is is used.

[Exploited Class]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 7 2003, 03:30 AM
I ask all yanquis to answer this question;

If you met a group of say, 15 black men in a park, would you ever dare say "how are you negroes doing today?" Would you even dare to say such a thing to even one black man?
I don't think I would say anything to them that refers to thier color.

"How are you african-americans doing today?" No, wouldn't say that.
"How are you black people doing today?" No, wouldn't say that.

"How you guys doing today?" I would say that.
"What's up?" I would say that.
"What's going on? Why is everybody standing around?" I might ask that because I don't see 15 people of any color or race just standing in a park.

Just one guy?
"How are you negro doing today?" No, I wouldn't say that.
"How are you doing today negro?" No.
"Mr. Negro, how are you doing today?" No.

I can't imagine using it anywhere. The only time I can imagine it being used is by some racist using it in a manner like.
"My car is parked over by those negros over there."
"A couple of negros moved next door."

I don't even know if anybody would use it them. It seems like it is a word that is trying to go for the derogatory word nigger, but is outdated and clumsy and just serves no use. Kind of like colored, I don't know if that was ever derogatory, but it is so out of place with current times. Like I would never say, "Oh Rich, he is a colored person." I sound like I am in the 50's. It is like saying, "Let's go to the movie house" of "Get in to the automobile" Or "Should I buy another horseless carriage?".

Then again I really don't like how the language panned out on this one.
Asian, Okay.
Middle Eastern, okay.
Hispanic or Mexican, okay.
African, not really okay.
Black, okay.
White, Okay.

I get to be a freaking color, whoopie. And nobody but polls, questionaires and police officers ever used Caucasian. I always hear white used by people.

I could be called American, but nobody knows we are Americans till we open our mouth or do something stupid.

Also I am getting really tired of Americans being called Racists by the Europeans on this board.
How are the Gypsies doing over there in Europe?

Those are the same crackers that hold their purses tight when a black man gets on the lift with them, the same racist pigs that check to see if their wallet is still in their pocket when that same mans exits the elevator, making you go up another flight 'cos he happened to get off on your floor. What you think he used some triple-dog secret haitian voodoo spell to magically nick your wallet?

that is exactly how I see everybody in Europe treat gypsies. "Don't go to that part of town, that is where the gypsies live." "All gypsies do is steal, do drugs and mug people." "Gypsies don't know how to work, they are physically unable to."

As far as I could tell, gypsies weren't allowed to go into a lot of stores. shit like that all the time.

And this crap of blaming people and calling them crackers because they are scared when they around black people is bullshit, and I will call you on it.
First off, do you have any idea of the extreme lenght of work that the media goes through to make people feel like this?
Do you know that on tv shows you are 10 times more likely to see a black man comitting a crime than a white person.
The local news is about 10 times more likely to show black people being incarcerated than white people.
And people aren't stupid they know that there is a second class citizen out there, who's numbers in poverty are great, who is frustrated and angry, who is oppressed constantly, kept in slums and ghetto like conditions, who is hassled by police all the time and can't go anywhere without people being suspicious.

Yes there is a huge population of minorities that are getting screwed all the time. Going to jail just because they are black or in the wrong place at the wrong time. People know this and are very aware of it and know that the system is doing it. Yes they are scared, there is a lot of work going into the media to make sure people feel scared of this one minority group.

I wouldn't call these people crackers for being scared, nor would I get mad at them for not rising above this fear. When you read all the books and statistics on just how much work the media goes through to put blacks in a negative, scary light. You will realize that most people by the end don't even have a choice on whether or not to be scared or feel fear. Fear is a primal instinct, generally triggered by outside forces, like all the scary images flashed on tv or negative portrayals. Heart right quickens and people go into fight or flight mode.

Like the evening news ever stops and says, "By the way folks, if your heart rate quickens and your breath shortens when confronted by a black person, it is because we portray them in a negative light 70% more times than a white person and your mind has subconciously picked up on that, now back to Ted for the weather."

And if RAF gets to use the racist word "Cracker" to describe the type of white people he doesn't like, I want to use the word Nigger to describe the specific type of black people I don't like. Mind you he isn't using cracker to describe all white people just the ones he has a problem with, and I too will use the word Nigger for the same purpose.

That is a pretty bullshit word to use RAF.

[YKTMX]

Yes, ofcourse.

[Sabocat]

Thank goodness we got rid of Stormin' Norman so that we could keep a worthless pile of shit like DC.

Nice post RAF...couldn't have said it better myself.

[Loknar]

I don’t know what to call a black person. Every day they change their mind. Be it black, African American ect. I don’t know what the rule is.

BTW, I am a Caucasian American.

[Eastside Revolt]

2.no

Neither do I fing negra, nigger, or nigga offensive but then again I'm caucasian.

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2003, 05:11 PM

BTW, I am a Caucasian American.
Ahhh, now it all becomes clear. Nevermind, it's not your fault.

[Dhul Fiqar]

I agree there is rampant racism in Europe - and I don't think that is in dispute. However, this thread basically started out about language, and I think what is more of an issue in America than elsewhere is the language used to describe ethnicities - especially in relation to black people more than other races.

The thing is I have had dozens of good black friends in my life - but none of them were American. So when I hear the concerns of African-Americans about language, I am mainly talking about spokespeople here and I know they do not represent the whole community, it seems pretty alien to me and my black friends that have never even thought twice about the issue of language (outside of lextreme cases).

Granted, I felt weird being the only white guy when everyone was using the word "nigger". They laughed at me because I would be replying to a statement about "niggers" and change the word to "black guy" in my response - they found it hillarious so I eventually gave it up. I prefered to say "brothers" actually, as most of them used that word too, but once in a while I just had to let rip with a "nigger" or look ridiculous. As a matter of fact I probably looked ridiculous either way - being as fair white as can be amongst about half a dozen of the blackest Africans you can imagine - it is hard to put race totally aside as an issue... but I digress ;)

So yeah - in extremes language can be an issue - but I think it is a bit of a sidetrack from the way people are actually treated in day to day life and mainly indicative of deeper feelings of division and alienation from their fellow citizens. An uncomfortability with the language probably indicates some kind of deeper problem. So I am not saying: "Forget about language because it is irrelevant" - far from it. I am basically saying that the pre-occupation with terms like "negro", "African-American" and whatever is probably indicative of a much larger issue that is lying beneath..

i.e. - the feeling of "the other". I am getting a tad philosophical here - but in essence I would contend that the lack of a common background that is the hallmark of American civilization ironically leaves it somewhat vulnerable to getting bogged down in the whole sociological mess of "who belongs to what and how do we cement that division through terminology?".

--- G.

[Regicidal Insomniac]

True, it has been used in negative conations throughout black history, but it has also been used by many black abolitionists and cicvil rights activists for centuries.

"The Negro needs the white man to free him from his fears. The white man needs the Negro to free him from his guilt."
-- Martin Luther King Jr.

"The only thing I've ever said is that in areas where the government has proven itself either unwilling or unable to defend the lives and the property of Negroes, it's time for Negroes to defend themselves."
-- Malcolm X

"One ever feels his twoness-an American, a Negro; two souls, two thoughts, two unreconciled strivings; two warring ideals in one dark body, whose dogged strength alone keeps it from being torn asunder."
-- W. E. B. Du Bois


Quite frankly, if the three most famed activists for black rights in American history found nothing offensive about the word Negro, I don't know why I should...

[YKTMX]

"The Negro needs the white man to free him from his fears. The white man needs the Negro to free him from his guilt."

That is very hollow indeed. The reason Negro isn't used now is because better phrases have been made because of the negative connotations of Negro. If "African-American" had been in wide use in the sixties then Martin would have used that. It would have hardly had made sense for him to use anything other than Negro, when the the audience he spoke to understood that as the term for a black person most widely used. Black or African American is far more appropriate and in my experience what most Black people (if someone feels the need to indentify them by race) prefer to be called.

[Hampton]

Malcolm used the phrase "so-called negro" as a negative term rather than referring to himself as a negro.

"Most of the so-called Negro leaders have got the Negro masses used to thinking in terms of second-class citizenship, of which there is no such thing."

"The liberals tell the so-called Negro to use the passive approach and turn the other cheek, but they have never told whites who were in bondage to use the passive approach. They don't tell the whites in Eastern Europe who are under the Russian yoke to be passive in their resistance. They give them guns and make heroes out of them and call them freedom fighters. But if a black man becomes militant in his striving against oppression then immediately he is classified as a fanatic."

The black man was the one willing to fight back, the so-called negro was the one willing to take the blow.

[Guest1]

well the word negro can be used in a non-racist way, it's not the same thing as nigger. but the risk of offense is still there and the negative connotations have built up around it. so I wouldn't use it. but then again I never refer to race, I just don't give a fuck about it.

and DC needs to change his avatar, he pretends not to know what it means, but he does. the bundle of twigs with an axe head embedded in it represents the strength of unity. racial unity. it is the fascist symbol for national power. its roots go as far back as roman times, but it is now a well known fascist symbol (not that rome wasn't fascist). Mussolini used it, you shouldn't. I've got to tell you though, I consider it highly offensive. If you don't change it, or if you do and continue on this far-right streak I will speak to the moderators :angry: .

Peace

[Guest1]

here is Mussolini's falcon, holding your bundle of twigs, DC.

[Loknar]

As I recall, the US senate in the early part of the 20th century also used a faggot in their banner.

[sc4r]

Yes it is offensive. Obviously so. Just as you, DC, were obviously being offensive in posing the question.

It dont really matter why. If someone dont like to be called something by you and you call him that thing you are being offensive because you are causing offence. Your only defence really would be that you did not realise it would. Your opinion of whether it should cause offence dont even come into it. If it soes , it does.

RAF said it all really. Nice one RAF.

[Sasafrás]

DC,

You are a cum-guzzling jackass. Seriously. How dare you use the word "nigger," even if you didn't mean it in a racist fashion. You're an immature asshole. Grow the fuck up.

And, Loknar, what the hell is your problem, man? Black people don't "change their minds every day." Black people, myself included, really don't care whether you use black or African-American, but I personally think that "negro" is horrifically archaic. But Mos Def (a black rapper, for those of you who don't know), uses the word "negro" in a couple of his songs. It's not necessarily offensive, but it's old and damn near obsolete. People in the past used it because it was the "official" term. But now, it's just old. Black or African-American is more appropriate. I write for a Spanish newspaper in my city and I've always been encouraged to use the word "afroamericano" or "moreno" (which means "dark-skinned") instead of "negro."

As far as "nigga," I don't think white people can really understand. But that's just how I see it, and I'm black.

Thank you,

La Rainbeaux

[Loknar]

Originally posted by La [email protected] 7 2003, 10:37 PM
DC,

You are a cum-guzzling jackass. Seriously. How dare you use the word "nigger," even if you didn't mean it in a racist fashion. You're an immature asshole. Grow the fuck up.

And, Loknar, what the hell is your problem, man? Black people don't "change their minds every day." Black people, myself included, really don't care whether you use black or African-American, but I personally think that "negro" is horrifically archaic. But Mos Def (a black rapper, for those of you who don't know), uses the word "negro" in a couple of his songs. It's not necessarily offensive, but it's old and damn near obsolete. People in the past used it because it was the "official" term. But now, it's just old. Black or African-American is more appropriate. I write for a Spanish newspaper in my city and I've always been encouraged to use the word "afroamericano" or "moreno" (which means "dark-skinned") instead of "negro."

As far as "nigga," I don't think white people can really understand. But that's just how I see it, and I'm black.

Thank you,

La Rainbeaux
Talk about backward, you yell art DC for using the word nigger and yet you your self use the word "nigga" which is slang for nigger. There is nothing wrong when using that word for educational purposes. Are you going to make a film about slavery and not use the word nigger?

And why is DC immature? You know he just wanted to know if a certain word was offensive to black people. Man get your head out of your ass.

http://fotm.rotten.com/fotm/butthead.html

[Guest1]

Loknar, did you just call it a faggot? weird. I mean, it's technically right. but when i think faggot, I think burning ember, fag as in cigarette or faggot as in fascist name for a homosexual.

well, find it for me. but it's still a well-known fascist symbol and highly offensive. just as the swastika is alternatively a symbol for peace and life, but is no longer acceptably used, same with the bundle.

[Dark Capitalist]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 7 2003, 06:13 PM
well the word negro can be used in a non-racist way, it's not the same thing as nigger. but the risk of offense is still there and the negative connotations have built up around it. so I wouldn't use it. but then again I never refer to race, I just don't give a fuck about it.

and DC needs to change his avatar, he pretends not to know what it means, but he does. the bundle of twigs with an axe head embedded in it represents the strength of unity. racial unity. it is the fascist symbol for national power. its roots go as far back as roman times, but it is now a well known fascist symbol (not that rome wasn't fascist). Mussolini used it, you shouldn't. I've got to tell you though, I consider it highly offensive. If you don't change it, or if you do and continue on this far-right streak I will speak to the moderators :angry: .

Peace
I already knew what it meant. I was asking RAF what he meant by 'changing his avatar right quick' as I had already had the fasces in my avatar before I changed to the new one.


Did you know that back in the 1920's the U.S. minted coins with the fasces insignia printed on them?


http://www.designscomputed.com/coins/cap_500_r_pr_512.jpg

[Sasafrás]

Fuck you Loknar... I used the word "nigga" to make a point to white people who really don't understand why it is or is not offensive. Stop being a dumbass and read into what people say rather than taking your initial impression and making other people's intentions look twisted and hypocritical. You're a complete turd. Get a life.

DC is immature for making his third option "I hate niggers." It was completely inappropriate and useless to say. That's why he's immature, you cockmaster.

~ Rain

[Loknar]

Originally posted by La [email protected] 7 2003, 11:02 PM
Fuck you Loknar... I used the word "nigga" to make a point to white people who really don't understand why it is or is not offensive. Stop being a dumbass and read into what people say rather than taking your initial impression and making other people's intentions look twisted and hypocritical. You're a complete turd. Get a life.

DC is immature for making his third option "I hate niggers." It was completely inappropriate and useless to say. That's why he's immature, you cockmaster.

~ Rain
And you're a writter for a newspaper? Man, what an asshole.

[Hampton]

Are you going to make a film about slavery and not use the word nigger?

Sure you can. And in regards to your last post, thanks for the useless flaming.

[Sasafrás]

No, I'm a WRITER, not a writter, for a newspaper, Loknar.. Asshole. And, I'm in college majoring in Foreign Languages and minoring in Linguistics. What the hell are you doing with your life?

.......

That's what I thought.



Stop being a jackass. You don't impress anyone.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by La [email protected] 8 2003, 12:13 AM
No, I'm a WRITER, not a writter, for a newspaper, Loknar.. Asshole. And, I'm in college majoring in Foreign Languages and minoring in Linguistics. What the hell are you doing with your life?

.......

That's what I thought.



Stop being a jackass. You don't impress anyone.
Dude, why so much anger? Did your daddy rape you with a broom stick?

[elijahcraig]

Freud would have a good time with Loknar and his fucked up imagination. :lol:

[Sasafrás]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2003, 06:23 PM
Dude, why so much anger? Did your daddy rape you with a broom stick?
I'm not even going to dignify that with a reciprocal insult. Wait, yes I am, only because you attacked me.. But it wouldn't be dignifying anything because you're a fucking fool..

Don't be an asshat because when you were a child, your mother stuck umbrellas up your ass... and then pushed the "open" button. And, while we're on the topic of your mother:

Your momma's so ugly, when she was born, your grandmother said, "What a treasure!" and your grandfather said, "Yes, let's go bury it" and, she's so ugly, instead of putting the bungee cord around her ankle, they put it around her neck. Additionally, your mother's so hairy, you almost died of rugburn at birth..

Boy, do I wish it wasn't "almost."


How old are you? The broomstick thing sounds like something even a 12 year old would find ridiculous... You cocklord...

[Loknar]

Ok, you started out rude, read your first post.

[Sasafrás]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2003, 06:51 PM
Ok, you started out rude, read your first post.
I asked you what you were talking about and then, I, as a black person, gave a statement and rebuttal for what you said. I was in no fashion rude.

You started being an asshat.

Thank you,

Rain

[Loknar]

Originally posted by La Rainbeaux+Sep 8 2003, 12:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (La Rainbeaux @ Sep 8 2003, 12:58 AM)
[email protected] 7 2003, 06:51 PM
Ok, you started out rude, read your first post.
I asked you what you were talking about and then, I, as a black person, gave a statement and rebuttal for what you said. I was in no fashion rude.

You started being an asshat.

Thank you,

Rain [/b]
No, you asked me "what the hell" I was talking about.

[elijahcraig]

Oooooooooooooooooo, from “what the hell” to being raped by an inanimate object&#33; hhahaha

[Loknar]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2003, 01:11 AM
Oooooooooooooooooo, from “what the hell” to being raped by an inanimate object&#33; hhahaha
Well hey man, I took that as a rude way to start off a conversation.

[Guest1]

that&#39;s rediculous loknar. and DC, I didn&#39;t know that, but it doesn&#39;t justify your using it. america wasn&#39;t exactly all that democratic in the 20&#39;s.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Exploited class,


You just don&#39;t likle me. That&#39;s fine, A LOT of people don&#39;t like me. I used the word "cracker" for a specific reason. I&#39;m sorry if you didn&#39;t see the meaning. With the response I got from the post from quite a few people here, I&#39;ll take one bad oine for the team. Fair enough in my eyes.

You also missed the point I was attempting to make on the "negro" issue. I was not making a reference to what is applicable to what you or I might say when greeting a group of black men, I was making a reference to how every one of these morons knows full well that the word "negre" is offensive to blacks, yet they continue to play dumb in an attempt to have some sort of support if ever they get hassled for it.


Will this make you feel better?

Rather then greeting this group of black men, you happen to be sitting at a bench only a few feet away from them in a park and are giving your lunch-date directions to where you are located so you can coo at each other for the 45 minutes you are allowed away from the man.

Would you say outloud "when you get by the outdoor basketball court, you will see a large group NEGROES, about 15 of them or so, I&#39;m right there."

As far as gypsies go in Europe, I&#39;m not sure what point you were making as I never accused every white yanqui of being a racist. I directed my post to yanks becuse that **** DC is a yank. There is no other reason.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 8 2003, 01:23 AM
that&#39;s rediculous loknar. and DC, I didn&#39;t know that, but it doesn&#39;t justify your using it. america wasn&#39;t exactly all that democratic in the 20&#39;s.
What are you talking about?

[Loknar]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 8 2003, 01:23 AM
Exploited class,


You just don&#39;t likle me. That&#39;s fine, A LOT of people don&#39;t like me.
It&#39;s because you&#39;re an asshole.

[elijahcraig]

Loknar, a pompous asshole, calling RAF, a clash fan, an asshole. tisk tisk tisk

[Umoja]

Okay, I&#39;ve been late to join the fisticuffs here.

The word "black" used to be offensive, and instead Negro was used. If you called someone black in the 40&#39;s, there is a high chance they would have taken offense. Black leaders in the 60&#39;s and 70&#39;s, advocated using the word "black" to dispel self-hatred that had likely existed since slavery. The use of the word "negro" wasn&#39;t insulting when MLK, WeB Dubois used it, but when Malcolm X used it, he did use it as a more negative term. Like "The so called Negro" as was previously mentioned. Blah, blah, blah.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2003, 01:34 AM
Loknar, a pompous asshole, calling RAF, a clash fan, an asshole. tisk tisk tisk
Forgetaboutit comrade Elijah. I really don&#39;t care what some 18 year old cracker with his head up his arse thinks about me.


The Clash is the only band that matters though.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by COMRADE RAF+Sep 8 2003, 01:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (COMRADE RAF @ Sep 8 2003, 01:43 AM)
[email protected] 8 2003, 01:34 AM
Loknar, a pompous asshole, calling RAF, a clash fan, an asshole. tisk tisk tisk
Forgetaboutit comrade Elijah. I really don&#39;t care what some 18 year old cracker with his head up his arse thinks about me.


The Clash is the only band that matters though. [/b]
RAF, are you a black man?

[elijahcraig]

"He who fucks nuns, later joins the church."

That applies to about 80% of so-called "communists" here.

[Dark Capitalist]

Originally posted by Loknar+Sep 7 2003, 09:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Loknar @ Sep 7 2003, 09:45 PM)
Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 8 2003, 01:43 AM

[email protected] 8 2003, 01:34 AM
Loknar, a pompous asshole, calling RAF, a clash fan, an asshole. tisk tisk tisk
Forgetaboutit comrade Elijah. I really don&#39;t care what some 18 year old cracker with his head up his arse thinks about me.


The Clash is the only band that matters though.
RAF, are you a black man? [/b]
No, but elijah&#39;s Jewish.

[Loknar]

DC, really, he&#39;s a Jew? That&#39;s damned odd, a Stalinist Jew.

[elijahcraig]

And?

[Sasafrás]

Loknar, you&#39;re a foolwilly.

[Hampton]

Originally posted by Loknar+Sep 7 2003, 08:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Loknar @ Sep 7 2003, 08:45 PM)
Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 8 2003, 01:43 AM

[email protected] 8 2003, 01:34 AM
Loknar, a pompous asshole, calling RAF, a clash fan, an asshole. tisk tisk tisk
Forgetaboutit comrade Elijah. I really don&#39;t care what some 18 year old cracker with his head up his arse thinks about me.


The Clash is the only band that matters though.
RAF, are you a black man? [/b]
Comrade RAF is gay in San Francisco, black in South Africa, an Asian in Europe, a Chicano in San Ysidro, an anarchist in Spain, a Palestinian in Israel, a Mayan Indian in the streets of San Cristobal, a Jew in Germany, a Gypsy in Poland, a Mohawk in Quebec, a pacifist in Bosnia, a single woman on the Metro at 10pm, a peasant without land, a gang member in the slums, an unemployed worker, an unhappy student and, of course, a Zapatista in the mountains."

[Guest1]

what the fuck does elijah being jewish have to do with anything?

[Vinny Rafarino]

You are a good man comrade Hamton. A damn fine man I say.



Che Y Marijuana,

It means absolutely nothing my friend, absolutely nothing.

It goes with all of the other rhetorical statments that these twits have made here. For example, did the boy wonder known as Loknar have to use the word "fagott" to describe the "bundle of twigs"? No, as a matter of fact, it&#39;s about as relevant as now calling a woman a "dame". They are words tha no longer apply to communication in the modern era, much like comparing olde English to modern English. I would wager a million bullets that this creep would refer to a "bundle of twigs" as a "bundle of twigs" in any other situation.

I hate that. It&#39;s the same as using the word "nigger" &#39;cos it used to mean a person that is depraved sociologically, then fall back on the "the dictionary says this" line of bullshit. They are simply pathetic little weasels looking to get a rise out of the "crazie commies" on this site.

We all know that being jewish means fuck all to anything, however these rats will defend themselves with a pathetic fury once they are cornered. And with them being a very small minority on this forum, the rats are always on the defensive.

You rats are in my pocket.

[commie kg]

Comrade RAF is gay in San Francisco, black in South Africa, an Asian in Europe, a Chicano in San Ysidro, an anarchist in Spain, a Palestinian in Israel, a Mayan Indian in the streets of San Cristobal, a Jew in Germany, a Gypsy in Poland, a Mohawk in Quebec, a pacifist in Bosnia, a single woman on the Metro at 10pm, a peasant without land, a gang member in the slums, an unemployed worker, an unhappy student and, of course, a Zapatista in the mountains."

That really was excellent. Did you write that?

[Dark Capitalist]

"Marcos (as in sub-commandante Marcos) is gay in San Francisco, black in South Africa, an Asian in Europe, a Chicano in San Ysidro, an anarchist in Spain, a Palestinian in Israel, a Mayan Indian in the streets of San Cristobal, a Jew in Germany, a Gypsy in Poland, a Mohawk in Quebec, a pacifist in Bosnia, a single woman on the Metro at 10pm, a peasant without land, a gang member in the slums, an unemployed worker, an unhappy student and, of course, a Zapatista in the mountains."

[Loknar]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 8 2003, 03:22 AM
You are a good man comrade Hamton. A damn fine man I say.



Che Y Marijuana,

It means absolutely nothing my friend, absolutely nothing.

It goes with all of the other rhetorical statments that these twits have made here. For example, did the boy wonder known as Loknar have to use the word "fagott" to describe the "bundle of twigs"? No, as a matter of fact, it&#39;s about as relevant as now calling a woman a "dame". They are words tha no longer apply to communication in the modern era, much like comparing olde English to modern English. I would wager a million bullets that this creep would refer to a "bundle of twigs" as a "bundle of twigs" in any other situation.

I hate that. It&#39;s the same as using the word "nigger" &#39;cos it used to mean a person that is depraved sociologically, then fall back on the "the dictionary says this" line of bullshit. They are simply pathetic little weasels looking to get a rise out of the "crazie commies" on this site.

We all know that being jewish means fuck all to anything, however these rats will defend themselves with a pathetic fury once they are cornered. And with them being a very small minority on this forum, the rats are always on the defensive.

You rats are in my pocket.
Funny how you are ok with cracker, but Nigger is just unacceptable right?




Why did I say remark "Stalinist Jew"? Simple, Stalin was not exactly loving of Jews.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Bullshit.

Theres plenty of threads on that here. Go read them cracker.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 8 2003, 06:57 AM
Bullshit.

Theres plenty of threads on that here. Go read them cracker.
What makes you think I am white? I wonder if you&#39;re really a black guy or some kid who gets his ass kicked in school and has no friends.

[Vinny Rafarino]

What makes you think I&#39;m black? Silly boy. Cracker is a term that meant "hill person" in the South of the USA. Eventually it became a disparaging remark associated to whitey by a poplation of blacks that were sick if being called "negroes", "niggers" "nigras" and a whole assortment of useless adjectives.

It carries the same social usefullness as the word "negro" however if you silly lot think that "negro" is not offensive to blacks, then of course their should be no reason for you to be offended by cracker, RIGHT MORON?

Do you get it now dim-wit? I hate having to explain myself to people. It&#39;s too bad you were not slick enough to get it in the first place. Everybody else did. Well, everyone except that bastard DC.



In case I am wrong about everyone else picking up what I had laid down, then I hope this clears it up for you.

[Sasafrás]

Loknar, you are lord of the cockmasters.

[Purple]

:( That&#39;s not a very nice thing to say to a person....

[Sasafrás]

Originally posted by an average [email protected] 8 2003, 10:35 AM
:( That&#39;s not a very nice thing to say to a person....
Neither is "Did your daddy rape you as a child with a broom stick."

But it&#39;s only bad when I reciprocate insults to someone who&#39;s being a jackass. <_<

I guess I&#39;M ALWAYS WRONG and everyone else is always right.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by La [email protected] 8 2003, 07:30 AM
Loknar, you are lord of the cockmasters.



Oh shut up, I am not even talking to you you filthy whore. Go play with your cucumbers.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 8 2003, 07:28 AM
What makes you think I&#39;m black? Silly boy. Cracker is a term that meant "hill person" in the South of the USA. Eventually it became a disparaging remark associated to whitey by a poplation of blacks that were sick if being called "negroes", "niggers" "nigras" and a whole assortment of useless adjectives.

It carries the same social usefullness as the word "negro" however if you silly lot think that "negro" is not offensive to blacks, then of course their should be no reason for you to be offended by cracker, RIGHT MORON?

Do you get it now dim-wit? I hate having to explain myself to people. It&#39;s too bad you were not slick enough to get it in the first place. Everybody else did. Well, everyone except that bastard DC.



In case I am wrong about everyone else picking up what I had laid down, then I hope this clears it up for you.
I never even made the claim that Negro was not offensive to black people you moron.

[Hampton]

Originally posted by Loknar+Sep 8 2003, 01:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Loknar @ Sep 8 2003, 01:42 PM)
La [email protected] 8 2003, 07:30 AM
Loknar, you are lord of the cockmasters.



Oh shut up, I am not even talking to you you filthy whore. Go play with your cucumbers. [/b]
Let&#39;s bring the stupidity to a whole new level:

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/asshatplainhorsesense-gfapunk.jpg

[Sabocat]

ooops. wrong thread

[Dyst]

I have actually replied to this before. Anyways, I dont see my post anywhere, so yeah.

I see no reason to even use words as negro or black or white, instead of nationality. If theres an absolute need to say colors, I know I would never use "negro", so yes, I think its wrong.

[bluerev002]

I dont think its offesive. Amazing how a simple question is asked and its turned into a dispute&#33; Its why I like this place so much ^.^ We just need some virtual chairs to throw around at you lot&#33;

[Dhul Fiqar]

God damned niggerlovers.

[synthesis]

I was under the impression that &#39;cracker&#39; referred to the whip &#39;cracked&#39; by the white slavemaster. Therefore, &#39;cracker.&#39;

[Vinny Rafarino]

Grady McWhiney, in "Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South," (The University of Alabama Press, 1988) makes a distinction concerning the term
CRACKER and tries to reclaim the term that is now used as a slur. He says that "cracker," in Scotch-Irish dialect meant "a person who talked boastingly." Later the
term Crackers came to mean a Scotch-Irishmen, a particular group of people.
: McWhiney says Cracker eventually became a disparaging term and Crackers were equated with "poor whites."

: He quotes historian Lewis C. Gray, in "History of Agriculture in the Southern United States to 1860," as associating the term Cracker with other slurs: "The
distinctive characteristics of poor whites were recognized in the various special appellations by which they were contemptuously known in different parts of the
South, such as, &#39;piney-woods people,&#39; &#39;dirt-eaters,&#39; &#39;clay-eaters,&#39; &#39;tallow-faced gentry,&#39; &#39;sand-hillers,&#39; and &#39;crackers.&#39;"

: McWhiney asserts that Crackers are a distinctive ethnic group - the Scotch-Irish - and is appalled that, "…in a nation in which slurs based upon race, ethnicity, or
religion have become strictly taboo, it is still acceptable to lampoon Crackers as a group…"

[YKTMX]

I&#39;d like to add this.


goddamn my man you see I can&#39;t understand
why you wanna say nigger to your brother man
talking back pride then you call yourself a nigger
don&#39;t bring yourself down cos it just don&#39;t figure
take a look at yourself and your history
you don&#39;t look like a goddamn nigger to me
it&#39;s a negative word and the white man made it
gave you a name to dominate and trade it
making blood money of his very own race man
and all of this beacause
the colour of your face man
Nigger, Nigger, Nigger, Nigger
placed and educated in a neighbourhood of crime
taught from the beginning that you weren&#39;t worth time
liqour-store and gunstore next to one another
with only one purpose so you all kill each other
leaving one less problem to worry about
that&#39;s the way they do it this is how it turns out
and justice for all with the American goverment
I wanna know where all the goddamn money went
we didn&#39;t see it and it didn&#39;t do no good
I guess you couldn&#39;t give a fuck about a black neighbourhood
Nigger, Nigger, Nigger, Nigger
Nigger you&#39;re the real niggers, you&#39;re the real niggers,
you&#39;re the real niggers, you&#39;re the real niggers
there&#39;s always gonna be fanatical minorities
the Ku Klux Klan and fucked up authorities
conservative ****s and religious preachers
I don&#39;t care cos they ain&#39;t our teachers
living a life they say is free from sin
then they judge another person by the colour of their skin
I feel ashamed of myself I&#39;m a white human being
surrounded by suckers to afraid to be seeing
they ain&#39;t such a thing called superior race
and there ain&#39;t nothing special &#39;bout the colour of your face
you&#39;ve got a one way ticket to a dead end street
the pressure is on so feel the heat
media pollution is a very bad sollution
hypocritical hype is your only contribution
so leave us alone and give your brothers some space
cos you&#39;re a lousy contribution to the human race
Nigger, Nigger,.....

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Negro is a term from an era of extreme racism. There are few African-Americans who accept the term today. It is offensive to force a name on someone that that someone hates. Period&#33;