Che, Lenin, & Mao Make It On Time Magazine's Top 25 Political Icons

[Rakhmetov]

List is written by reactionary twits who put Hitler, Mussolini and other fiends on the list as well. :crying:


http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2046285,00.html

[Robocommie]

Well it's also got Lincoln, Mandela and Gandhi, so I don't think you should read it as a list of the most evil men or anything. And Hitler and Mussolini were iconic political leaders, even if they were assholes.

[Lunatic Concept]

Che a war criminal? Thats pushing it a bit :confused:

[Rakhmetov]

Che a war criminal? Thats pushing it a bit :confused:


That's what I mean by reactionary. The articles on Mao, Lenin and Che are outright hostile--- nothing new from a liberal publication like Time magazine

[Burn A Flag]

they misquote che "go ahead and kill me i am just a man" when in reality "shoot coward, you are only going to kill a man!"

[Fulanito de Tal]

Che a war criminal? Thats pushing it a bit :confused:

If Che is a war criminal, then every president that has been in charge during a US military conflict or US lead coup is at least a psychopathic genocidal maniac.

[Tablo]

I expected a bit more hostility in the Mao one and less hostility in the Lenin one. Yeah, Time is reactionary.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1970/1101701019_400.jpg

[Rakhmetov]

Why was Allende a threat??? Was Chile about to invade the USA???? Ridiculous. Time is shit.

[Sir Comradical]

Che a war criminal? Thats pushing it a bit :confused:

Che's a war-criminal while Reagan is an "individual patriot fighting against the constraints of big government".

[Red Commissar]

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1970/1101701019_400.jpg

Yup, lol. I remember seeing that. Just goes to show you...

Besides, you can see it all in their pages- part of their political rhetoric is that they're advancing "democracy", as opposed to the dictatorial nature of Communism and Fascism. So they'll pour praise on to "democratic" figures like Reagan or Roosevelt, historical sweet hearts like Victoria, or a feel-good character like Gandhi, while dousing hatred on figures that they say were oppressive and dictatorial, lopping in Lenin with the likes of Hitler and Mussolini.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Not only are they reactionary but completely wrong, at least on the one about Lenin. They state it was a peasant revolt which brought the Tsar down which is just blatantly false. We all know it was the people in the cities who started the uprising, not the peasants. Then it says it was a peasant revolt that brought Lenin to power :blink:. WTF?

[L.A.P.]

I don't think Mao Zedong is a more influential political figure than Joseph Stalin. Just saying.

[Apoi_Viitor]

I was expecting Time to at least acknowledge that most of the historical figures (like Thatcher) don't exactly have god-like legacies. But instead, she was a benevolent deity that saved the UK from collapse, while Lenin was a brutal tyrant.

...Not that I expected the article to be anywhere close to neutral, but this was fox like.

[L.A.P.]

I was expecting Time to at least acknowledge that most of the historical figures (like Thatcher) don't exactly have god-like legacies. But instead, she was a benevolent deity that saved the UK from collapse, while Lenin was a brutal tyrant.

...Not that I expected the article to be anywhere close to neutral, but this was fox like.

And of course they had to say that Hugo Chavez has exploited Simon Bolivar's legacy on the article about Bolivar.

[pranabjyoti]

I don't think Mao Zedong is a more influential political figure than Joseph Stalin. Just saying.
Stalin had a stage prepared by Lenin, Mao had none. Moreover, China was more Asiatic feudal than Russia. Though Mao has the advantage of examples and some assistance in the very crucial time.

[Delenda Carthago]

I don't think Mao Zedong is a more influential political figure than Joseph Stalin. Just saying.
Actually, Stalin should be on the list instead of Che...

[Red Commissar]

Actually, Stalin should be on the list instead of Che...

Che's pretty iconic, even if it's unfortunately turned into a fashion statement more than a political one for a lot of people.