View Full Version : Is the Muslim Brotherhood Fascist?
Dimitri Molotov
4th February 2011, 04:11
I heard on the radio today that the Muslim Brotherhood translated copes of i think Mein Kampf into whatever languages they did, and they glorify hitler for trying to exterminate the jews, and that they believe israel is the little satan and america is the great satan, or something to that effect. is it possible radical muslim fundies are trying to hijack the revolution? I heard numbers from a poll that sound to me like a good 70-80& of the egyptian population is pretty radical muslim, and that might effect the revolution and the outcome of who is put in power and how egypt will end up. Sorry im not too informed on the revolution in egypt, i guess ill ask all my questions in one post.
1. is the muslim brotherhood fascist?
2. is the egyptian revolution being influenced by radical islam and what kind of influence does it have?
3. who is mubarak and what should i know about him?
4. what are the goals and viewpoints of the anti-mubarak and pro-mubarak supporters?
sorry for being so uninformed, but i am not quite sure what to think about this entire situation so far because i dont know what is actually happening, so i am not sure if what i have been hearing is incredibly biased or not. Thank you comrades.
Ocean Seal
4th February 2011, 04:28
1. No. Fascism generally means dictatorship of the counter-revolution in its simplest terms. And the Muslim brotherhood is not opposing any revolution. They are anti-semitic, but racism does not make them fascist.
2. Yes, I would say a large amount of influence is Islamism. But I don't know how its going to turn out.
3. Mumbarak is a United States Imperial Puppet Dictator who has presided over Egypt for around three decades.
4. They are not homogenous masses. They all have their reasons. The anti-Mumbarak sentiment stems all the way from revolutionary socialists to the Muslim Brotherhood. The pro-Mumbarak sentiment is simply a fear of change.
Dimitri Molotov
4th February 2011, 04:33
okay, so from what i understand now after some more reading is that nobody really likes the dictator and even if the radical muslims and the socialist progressives both are far from the same, everyone is kind of working together to get rid of the guy all for different reasons. Thank you friend.
PhoenixAsh
4th February 2011, 04:39
1. is the muslim brotherhood fascist?
Depends on your definition of fascism. I tend to say maybe. They are not very pro Jew though. In fact they had ties with the Nazi's in the 30s.
2. is the egyptian revolution being influenced by radical islam and what kind of influence does it have?
No. It is not. It is started by students and workers.
The MB initialy did not support the protests but became involved later. They are radical (though have condemned terrorism and have adopted a non-violence vision and methodology of civil disobedience) and support the protests. They support the points I underlined below. they are popular in Egypt because they provide social security and have large charity works and aid programs....eventhough they are outlawed in Egypt. In Egypt they tend to be more secular and democratically oriented than in other countries....it can be compared to the religious right in the US....only not christian but muslim ;)
3. who is mubarak and what should i know about him?
Mubarak is the president of Egypt for the last 30 years. He is a dictator an responsible for numerous human rights violations. Former military leader who helped win back the Sinai from Israel.
Bget 1.5 billion dollars from the US and is their biggest ally in the Arabic world. Also allied to Israel.
4. what are the goals and viewpoints of the anti-mubarak and pro-mubarak supporters?
anti:
democracy
Mubarak out
Regime out
suspension of the state of emergency that has been in effect for 30 years
freedom of assembly
freedom for unions
freedom of speech
free and open elections
economic reforms
human rights
Protests have been largely pacifist in nature but in the first days were attacked by secret police and the police. Yesterday the protestors were attacked by pro-Mubarak gangs who used violence.
pro:
these are mostly payed by Mubarak to attack anti demonstrators and are being led by security police.
some of them were told by their bosses or employers that they would not get payed if the demonstrations would not end and if they would not protest for Mubarak and were then sent to a pro rally
also amongst them are released prisoners
for so far as the support is genuine:
they want Mubarak to stay or at least stay until september
they want the regime to stay in power
they want the anti Mubarak protestors to stop protesting
This is basically them in the green car:
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sorry for being so uninformed, but i am not quite sure what to think about this entire situation so far because i dont know what is actually happening, so i am not sure if what i have been hearing is incredibly biased or not. Thank you comrades.
Thats what we are here for.
I suggest you go read the protests in Egypt thread...its a large read but will inform you better.
Dimentio
4th February 2011, 09:50
I heard on the radio today that the Muslim Brotherhood translated copes of i think Mein Kampf into whatever languages they did, and they glorify hitler for trying to exterminate the jews, and that they believe israel is the little satan and america is the great satan, or something to that effect. is it possible radical muslim fundies are trying to hijack the revolution? I heard numbers from a poll that sound to me like a good 70-80& of the egyptian population is pretty radical muslim, and that might effect the revolution and the outcome of who is put in power and how egypt will end up. Sorry im not too informed on the revolution in egypt, i guess ill ask all my questions in one post.
1. is the muslim brotherhood fascist?
2. is the egyptian revolution being influenced by radical islam and what kind of influence does it have?
3. who is mubarak and what should i know about him?
4. what are the goals and viewpoints of the anti-mubarak and pro-mubarak supporters?
sorry for being so uninformed, but i am not quite sure what to think about this entire situation so far because i dont know what is actually happening, so i am not sure if what i have been hearing is incredibly biased or not. Thank you comrades.
1. They are largely filling the same role as Fascism, but they are not fascist since they are an internationalist movement.
2. Their strategy seems to be to lurk in the shadows and support ElBaradei for the moment.
3. Former military strong-man turned president. Has greatly benefitted Israel, USA and himself, and hardly no one else.
4. The Anti-mubarak supporters want to get rid of Mubarak to be able to address Egypt's problems. The Pro-mubarak supporters want to get 10$ a day.
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