Socialist that smoke weed?

[AmericanSocialist]

I didnt know where to post this, but I was wondering if there is a list of socialist who smoked weed. I am talking about obviously famous figures of a revolutionary socialist perspective. I know some claim that Che did, but it seems like he just smoked cigars (which unfortunately was not good for his asthma).

[Ocean Seal]

I don't understand the point to this. I'm sure that many socialists did smoke weed, at some point in their lives especially considering many of them lived in the 60's.

[smk]

I didnt know where to post this, but I was wondering if there is a list of socialist who smoked weed. I am talking about obviously famous figures of a revolutionary socialist perspective. I know some claim that Che did, but it seems like he just smoked cigars (which unfortunately was not good for his asthma).

idiotic thread is idiotic

[blake 3:17]

There's a lovely collection of Walter Benjamin's called On Hashish. He's the most important Marxist thinker to write on cannabis.

Sadie Plant (who's sort of a marxist, she also wrote a book on the Situationists) wrote a very fine book called Writers on Drugs. I recently reread it and it seemed much more coherent second time round.

Foucault, not really a socialist but a left intellectual, smoked it by the pound. It only comes up every so often in his writing and more in his interviews. One of his 'limit experiences' came from being hit by a car while very stoned on opium.

The guys I'm into these days, Deleuze and Guattari, have an interesting approach by just calling them all 'drugs', with no hypothesizing about the different attributes of various drugs.

Benjamin was hoping to expand Marxism with the spirit of intoxication, see his essay on Surrealism, one of the finest pieces of writing on Surrealism to this day.

Many on the Left are very shy about drug use. There are practical reasons but I also think folks should be more upfront and honest, and work to end the War On Drugs, and in North America starting specifically with decriminalization of marijuana. The social ills connected to weed smoking are very tiny compared to the social ills of prohibition and it is something that a vast majority of the population has done at one point or another, and that many of us do on a regular basis with few negative effects. I get quite pissed off that the social democratic and revolutionary Lefts try to pretend that prohibition isn't the problem that it is.

I've often referred people on this site to Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. This is the US site: http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php LEAP has some very good arguments to ending the War On Drugs and some of their folks have proposed useful alternative models, where the would be many regulations to drug production and consumption but not stupid.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Foucault, not really a socialist but a left intellectual, smoked it by the pound.

That explains a lot.

[Hoplite]

I dont see why it matters.

"Because Che did it" is a valid reason for a number of things, but I dont see how that ties in with the use or marijuana.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Marx and Engels enjoyed puffing, puffing and giving.

[Hexen]

Socialists defiantly smoke weed while capitalists (especially fascists/nazis) get drunk with alcohol and smoke missile shaped cigars...

[punisa]

This topic is more pro-weed and less pro-socialist ...:thumbdown:

[AmericanSocialist]

Thank you blake. This is great information and thank you for not being rude like some other people. It is simply a question. Discussion of drugs is very important. the war on drugs has caused much exploitation and many working people are in jail over harmless substances. I was wondering about socialist thinkers who smoked weed as this shows the freedom involved in socialism. The point of the thread is not to whine about how its pointless. Perhaps its pointless to those who think so, but to me I find it important.

[Die Rote Fahne]

idiotic thread is idiotic

This is a learning thread. Calling a question asked in this thread "idiotic" is completely unwarranted.

It is a legitimate question for someone who is curious about the historical socialist opinion of marijuana.

I would not have a problem if this was politics, OI, etc.

Just note when a thread is in learning.

[hatzel]

I was wondering about socialist thinkers who smoked weed as this shows the freedom involved in socialism.

I'm pretty sure that plenty of capitalists smoke weed, too...ah...:rolleyes:

[Die Rote Fahne]

I'm pretty sure that plenty of capitalists smoke weed, too...ah...:rolleyes:



Bill Maher for example.

[hatzel]

Huzzah for libertarianism! :tt1:

[Fabrizio]

Marx and Engels enjoyed puffing, puffing and giving.

Yep, they were party animals.:D a lot of their antics would be looked down on by the puritanical among their followers I think.

[Bandito]

Moved to Chit Chat.

[Political_Chucky]

Yep, they were party animals.:D a lot of their antics would be looked down on by the puritanical among their followers I think.
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