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SamV
4th February 2011, 00:32
/facepalm

Please kill me >_<

Dr. Rosenpenis
4th February 2011, 01:08
did someone actually conduct this survey?!

Dr. Rosenpenis
4th February 2011, 01:09
oh you live in indiana that explains it

Sir Comradical
4th February 2011, 01:13
Lol, mainstream history is white history.

brigadista
4th February 2011, 01:19
obviously they are getting a bad education:)

Political_Chucky
4th February 2011, 02:17
I want a red history month

Tablo
4th February 2011, 02:20
Red history month sounds like fun.

Fulanito de Tal
4th February 2011, 03:43
This is actually a step forward! If we contained white history to only one month, then maybe we could learn something interesting the rest of the year! We could have a world history rest of the year.

Tablo
4th February 2011, 04:17
This is actually a step forward! If we contained white history to only one month, then maybe we could learn something interesting the rest of the year! We could have a world history rest of the year.
Sooooo exciting! :lol:

Angry Young Man
4th February 2011, 04:19
Are you saying we couldn't hijack it and turn it into Anti-Imperialism month or whatever? Because Black History Month is about blacks in the context of race relations. If there's a month where the focus is on the oppressor...

Or is it not about whites in the context of race relations?

Tablo
4th February 2011, 04:36
Anti-Imperialism month sounds like the greatest thing ever. I want it.

Angry Young Man
4th February 2011, 04:40
Well, either WHM would be a focus on whites through the ages and the multiple races that they've oppressed, which not even the most bonkers Ukipper can feel particular pride for; or it would focus on whites through the ages without the various races they've oppressed, which would just be... well, History Month

Robocommie
4th February 2011, 05:37
I had a professor, a person of color, who once made the argument that he felt that dividing black history and Latino history like that, by giving it it's own month, encouraged this notion that the history of minorities is somehow separable from the history of mainstream culture. While it's of course intended to correct the imbalance of areas of history which are usually ignored and overlooked, it has the unintended side effect of sidelining it and "othering" it even more.

He made an interesting point.

Robocommie
4th February 2011, 05:38
Well, either WHM would be a focus on whites through the ages and the multiple races that they've oppressed, which not even the most bonkers Ukipper can feel particular pride for; or it would focus on whites through the ages without the various races they've oppressed, which would just be... well, History Month

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gfnke34LQw&feature=related

¿Que?
4th February 2011, 06:18
Or maybe like a history history month. Get all meta with it.

synthesis
4th February 2011, 06:19
Or maybe like a history history month. Get all meta with it.

You mean a historiography month? (This is where four years has gotten me...)

¿Que?
4th February 2011, 06:22
You mean a historiography month? (This is where four years has gotten me...)
Well, not really. Historiographies are nothing more than an overview of the literature on a certain subject. The difference between history and historiography is the absence in the latter of primary sources. I meant like a meta-history. A history of who wrote history, what history was written about, what led to certain historical theories and ideas, etc.

¿Que?
4th February 2011, 06:25
Well, actually it appears synthesis you are correct. But then, so am I. There's two definitions of historiography...


Historiography is the study of the history and methodology of the discipline of history (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/History).
The term historiography also denotes a body of historical work on a specialized topic. Scholars discuss historiography topically – such as the “historiography of Catholicism (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Catholicism),” the “historiography of early Islam (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Historiography_of_early_Islam),” or the “historiography of China (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Chinese_historiography)" – as well as specific approaches and genres (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Genre), such as political history (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Political_history) and social history (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Social_history). Beginning in the nineteenth century, at the ascent of academic history (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Academic_history), a corpus of historiography literature developed.

wikipedia

Rusty Shackleford
4th February 2011, 06:56
start a revolutionary working class history month.

Tablo
4th February 2011, 07:09
We should have a poll on what new month to create.

Jalapeno Enema
4th February 2011, 07:25
We should have a poll on what new month to create.

Smarch

Rusty Shackleford
4th February 2011, 09:03
Franuary. for all the Frans in the world.

Angry Young Man
4th February 2011, 10:14
Or just Fran. Between June and July. Continue the thread of girl's names

Rusty Shackleford
4th February 2011, 10:22
Spocktober.

Remember December. (Amnesia Awareness Month)

Vanguard1917
4th February 2011, 13:51
How about just teaching human history throughout the whole year? 'Black history month' is a philistine concept based on the divisive belief that 'black people's history' is somehow separable from the history of humanity in general. According such logic, 'white history' would indeed make sense.

Fulanito de Tal
4th February 2011, 19:45
remember december. (amnesia awareness month)

lmao!

ZeroNowhere
4th February 2011, 22:17
Why not have a history month for us brown people instead? It's a perfect middle path between black and white history months, and should appease both parties.

Tablo
4th February 2011, 22:20
Why not have a history month for us brown people instead? It's a perfect middle path between black and white history months, and should appease both parties.
I don't think that's the way it works...

ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo
4th February 2011, 22:32
Why not a White Trash History Month? :lol:

SamV
4th February 2011, 23:08
lul, well I am stuck in one of the most conservative counties in the usa, not going to say which one but holy balls I don't even remember what a black person looks like anymore.

and no there was no survey, its just generally well known to be the viewpoint around here.

synthesis
5th February 2011, 09:46
Well, actually it appears synthesis you are correct. But then, so am I. There's two definitions of historiography..

Historiography was always explained to me as "the history of the history." It would be pretty sad if I had a Bachelor's in this shit and didn't know what historiography was. It's pretty sad anyways, so...

Morgenstern
5th February 2011, 20:09
Maybe we can grow up and stop dedicating certain months to certain histories? Does it do anything other than make some people pissed off?

Fulanito de Tal
5th February 2011, 20:35
Maybe we can grow up and stop dedicating certain months to certain histories? Does it do anything other than make some people pissed off?

I think affirmative action had that problem too.

The Fighting_Crusnik
5th February 2011, 20:37
How about history teachers begin teaching history from all angles and view points rather than dedicating a month or two to a specific group of people that they otherwise ignore? :confused:

Pretty Flaco
6th February 2011, 04:11
There should be a month dedicated to my history.

Dr. Rosenpenis
6th February 2011, 04:19
traditionally, the study of history in the west is the narrative of the development of white european society, with all other cultures occupying a merely marginal role. black history month is good in that it seeks to show black history from a black perspective but of course it doesnt fundamentally change the way history is studied.

Rafiq
6th February 2011, 19:12
Why do we need months dedicated to a race? They should Change Black History month to something like "Anti-Racist Rememberence month" or something.

Dr. Rosenpenis
7th February 2011, 02:28
because poor understanding of black history is a major contributing factor to racism