I just want to say that I have been doing a lot of reading and I am now convinced t

[tradeunionsupporter]

I just want to say that I have been doing a lot of reading and I am now convinced that Marxism is better than Capitalism.

[Revolution starts with U]

That's cool, and I somewhat tend to agree with it (tho I'm not really a Marxist).
But no "isms" are better than any "isms" at all :cool:

[#FF0000]

:lol:

Well that's good, I guess! What made you finally decide this?

[tradeunionsupporter]

Capitalism is based on profit I think people should come before profits as Socialism says profits money Capitalists get could be used to fund social services for the people and other useful things and needs.

[hatzel]

...deep...:)

[Revolution starts with U]

Anything in particular that convinced you of this?

[tradeunionsupporter]

Yes I have been a Democrat and a Liberal for a long time and I think being a Progressive is not radical enough for me also Democrats Im talking about the American Democratic Party does not call for Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. I think the Democrats are just a Bourgeois party like the Republicans.

[Fulanito de Tal]

Im talking about the American Democratic Party does not call for Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. I think the Democrats are just a Bourgeois party like the Republicans.
I agree with you on this :)

[Revolution starts with U]

I always knew I was something more than just a liberal :D

[hatzel]

Just wait until we start confusing you with all that talk of Trotskyism and Maoism and Anarcho-Communism and...and...and...:laugh: The quest (and confusion) has only just begun!

[Kotze]

Anything in particular that convinced you of this?Click the face if you think you can handle the truth ---> :rolleyes: (http://www.revleft.com/vb/here-agrees-me-t131139/index.html?t=131139)

[Revolution starts with U]

No, stop.... you're ruining the fun ;)

[hatzel]

Are you trying to tell me lefties aren't sexier? Fuck, why am I even on this forum?! :crying:

[Nolan]

http://www.robgroove.com/blog-images/whos_awesome.jpg

[Revolution starts with U]

Most of the sexy people are apolitical, that's annoying to no end.

[Lt. Ferret]

that puppy has bad grammar.

[hatzel]

No, no, the awesome that belongs to you is awesome, what's wrong with that? :)

[StockholmSyndrome]

No, no, the awesome that belongs to you is awesome, what's wrong with that? :)

Well then it would have to say "Whose awesome?" as in the possessive form of the word who...
"Who's (who is) awesome" coupled with "Your awesome" assumes that the awesomeness in question is a subject, which as we all know is grammatically and metaphysically ridiculous.

[Revolution starts with U]

nono. Your awesome (that thing you have called an awesome) is named awesome. Which means you own a person.... you're a slave holder. :thumbdown:

[hatzel]

So you're seriously unawesome! :scared: (Why am I not surprised this is a chit-chat thread?)

[StockholmSyndrome]

I see. I just needed to open my mind a bit and realize an actual person was involved. Slave master mentality I suppose.

[NGNM85]

I just want to say that I have been doing a lot of reading and I am now convinced that Marxism is better than Capitalism.

Personally, I choose; "None of the above.'

[CynicalIdealist]

Personally, I choose; "None of the above.'

:thumbdown:

[RGacky3]

I just want to say that I have been doing a lot of reading and I am now convinced that Marxism is better than Capitalism.


Really? Common now, Really?

[hatzel]

Relatively speaking, a lot of reading. If you've never read a book in your life, reading a Wikipedia article would constitute 'a lot of reading' :rolleyes:

This could also have been doing a lot of reading, namely, reading our responses to those 170-odd posts he's made between joining this site and deciding that this is where he belongs :)

[Manic Impressive]

http://www.robgroove.com/blog-images/whos_awesome.jpg
That puppy was probably dead when that photo was taken. It has been stuffed, had it's eye sewn shut and has metal rods holding it's paws in place, shit it was probably drowned in a river just to make that picture.

[hatzel]

This is probably the most politically insightful and relevant thread in OI since the infamous Why did the ussr end the way it did? (http://www.revleft.com/vb/why-did-ussr-t148781/index.html) :)

[L.A.P.]

Yes I have been a Democrat and a Liberal for a long time and I think being a Progressive is not radical enough for me also Democrats Im talking about the American Democratic Party does not call for Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. I think the Democrats are just a Bourgeois party like the Republicans.

Same story with me, it was hard being at a Democratic Party HQ showing support for Malcom X and the Black Panther Party.

[trivas7]

I just want to say that I have been doing a lot of reading and I am now convinced that Marxism is better than Capitalism.
But capitalism is the real world; Marxism is a pointy-headed ideology. You're comparing apples and oranges IMO.

[Revolution starts with U]

Another assertion with no argument from Trivas. Let's all scramble to pile up mounds of evidence disproving it that will not even be looked at :tt1:

[trivas7]

Another assertion with no argument from Trivas. Let's all scramble to pile up mounds of evidence disproving it that will not even be looked at :tt1:
Neither is this an argument but only a bare assertion on your part, sir/madam.

[scarletghoul]

But capitalism is the real world; Marxism is a pointy-headed ideology. You're comparing apples and oranges IMO.
Oranges are better than apples.

[scarletghoul]

That puppy was probably dead when that photo was taken. It has been stuffed, had it's eye sewn shut and has metal rods holding it's paws in place, shit it was probably drowned in a river just to make that picture. Yeah you can tell from the shadow its been carefully arranged for the photograph. Complete opposite to lolcats etc.

[RGacky3]

Neither is this an argument but only a bare assertion on your part, sir/madam.

Trivas, over and over again when we've had discussions, you make a baseless claim, fail to defend it, and then simply ignore arguments taking apart your point.

If you want to be taken seriously saying things like "sir/madam" or making use of your thesaurus is'nt gonna cut it, actually making arguments with evidence and reasonings will.

[Baseball]

Capitalism is based on profit I think people should come before profits as Socialism says profits money Capitalists get could be used to fund social services for the people and other useful things and needs.

Unfortunately for the socialist, a profit can only be accrued when people acquire what they need and want.

Its the only rational way to measure the value of production

Production for profit is, as it were, "Production for people."

No doubt these views are very unfashionable hereabouts.

[hatzel]

No doubt these views are very unfashionable hereabouts.

You didn't really have to say that. You're restricted, remember...for a reason, I'm sure :sneaky:

[trivas7]

Trivas, over and over again when we've had discussions, you make a baseless claim, fail to defend it, and then simply ignore arguments taking apart your point.

I'm sorry you don't see the truth of what I have to say.


If you want to be taken seriously saying things like "sir/madam" or making use of your thesaurus is'nt gonna cut it, actually making arguments with evidence and reasonings will.
You mean an argument like the following?:


Oranges are better than apples.

Why don't you just back off me with your tireless irrational tirades ("with evidence and reasonings"), RGacky? Just ignore me, sir.

[Revolution starts with U]

That would be kinda funny if it was Gacky that said that. Or if you ever did back up your assertions with any kind of data, theory, or argumentation.

You expect us to "see the truth" merely because you asserted it? It was merely asserted to us every day of our lives. You need to come with something a little stronger than "it is because I said so."
Idk, maybe you still live with your parents, so that kind of reasoning works on you... ;)

[Bardo]

I think the Democrats are just a Bourgeois party like the Republicans.

Indeed, the Dems and Repubs are just different factions of the neoliberal party. You won't find many in either party who denounce neoliberal policy. It's amazing how similar the two parties operate while presenting themselves as the opposing force to the other.

[Le Libérer]

Yes I have been a Democrat and a Liberal for a long time and I think being a Progressive is not radical enough for me also Democrats Im talking about the American Democratic Party does not call for Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. I think the Democrats are just a Bourgeois party like the Republicans.

Welcome to the tree house. :thumbup:

[RGacky3]

I'm sorry you don't see the truth of what I have to say.

Well you gotta convince me with something, facts, evidence, reasonings, logical conclusions, something, common man make an effort.