Brainwashed American Capitalists are Fun to Debate...

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I thought I'd post some choice stuff this guy's said... it's just so... screw it. Just read the shiz. Note that this is quoted word for word.


Fact: Its true that socialists -> Want to unionize everything (Like Healthcare)
Fact: Its True that people with socialist ideas shove them down our thoats in times of Emergencys
Fact: Socialism makes use SHARE things NO choices

Darwins theory of evolution doesnt work the socialists theorys of Bussiness and Life.
NO ROOM FOR EVOLUTION AND WINNERS
Socialists take care of poor and FAILUARE and uses goverment to fix it.
Free Trade is outdated My plan:
To countrys that have blocks on some of the goods we export we need to put blocks on there exports to us. Which would be a fair playing feild. Also we need to cancal NATO pact. We could collapes Chinas Market but we cant because we owe them so we do have some lee way with them. We need to give insentives to Corps here in America and to bring overseas corps back in America. But we just need to stop letting China and Japan Import anything they want when we cant do that to them.
Socialist economics would have no markets which means we would no be able to invest in anything which means we dont move forward. With out the market we would not be able to create new technology.
Anyways the economy is unstable but we need to get it back to the top and control it. The economy is like a rollar coaster and always has been.
Most people in America only see two things race and class.. They cant equalize us and make decisions for us. America draws in the smartests people and anyone can be rich just yes WORK at it...

Socalism is only good on paper and that only makes business go overseas and hurts us by not creating new technologys.

One man doesnt leech off your work but they leech off whats fair and compitive.
We run off profit we push our selves to get profit thats how people r succesful.
Markets r n ot planed by big business there for people to invest in other corps and stocks.... We look out for insider trading and make it a fair system.
I believe what i'm saying is correct.... Your theory is just IMPOSSIBLE to incorparate into a capitalistic country. Your therory is to make everyone happy but that will NEVER happen. So a person who gave Brain Surgery will get the same credit for someone who mopped floors for a day. (Just not fair) knowone will try in life there will b NO HARD jobs we will never advance in life.
Capitialism has problems but everything is not perfect. It is the best opition for our country and what ever is best I am all for. We have a right to question things we do and to fix them and we will contiune to fix problems.
We wouldnt be here if it wasnt for the brave smart patriots who engaged in commerce. They had the same spirt we have today which is Win Win Win. They were an example of war which a weaker contestent prevals because its more determined to perseve. Why get rid of everything we faught for. America is the country where no matter your background, you are considered an equal. People come here because in America, their efforts bear fruit. People come here to seek equality. People come here to escape poverty and persecution. People come here to ensure a higher standard of living for themselves and their posterity. We are a Nation that touchs everyone and we lead in democracy. We are the land of oppertinutiys when you really work hard you can do it because you can achieve anything. We always rebound and get back to order so quickly. We are a unfinished country always open to things. We rise up with everyones swet and hard work. We have the sence of that we are all in it together. We are a country that we take chances we are allowed to try anything to achieve success and that failure is always there. We have no set rules we invent it as we move forward. We are a country with the greatest thinkers and entrepreneurs. We sacrificed everything to be here free, we fight back and love new things. We react well under pressure and we go through pressurized times stronger than ever. The future is our friend we move forward and deal with problems and not ignore them. Questioning the country and looking at flaws is a patriotic America. What I just wrote about is the country I know of its not perfect but its pretty dam close to it.

[L.A.P.]

When seeing the redundancy of capitalist arguments you just get tired and this is the only response you make after a while.

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[ExUnoDisceOmnes]

That's why I chose to post it here. So I could laugh with other people.

TGggsvdWoJs

[Red Commissar]

I've had a similar nutjob elsewhere. Some quotes



Fact is we where attacked
Fact is more than 50 hard core "democrats" said things as harsh or worse depicting how Iraq needed to be stopped.
Fact that many or all countries corroborated the intel.
Fact they did use chemical weapons in the past.

All Obama is doing is creating class warfare, halting progress, and trying to equalize USA from the idealism that us fat cat "Americans" don't deserve to be ahead of the world.
(socialism) (world order)


We don't think we are better, we also don't go from country to country and fuck em up.

If you look at the rapid progress in 200 years time, our form of government give people more rights to be successful.
For instance the Olympics, we don't have some government agency to whip people into submission, threaten us if we fail to win.(or pick who gets to play via government)
We have freedom to do our best, the individual themselves, has their own power to win a gold medal.(in the name of our country) and we won quite a bit of gold medals.

World order? hmm looks like people are counting on Germany to bail out others, now I hear talk of a north and south euro, yes socialism on a world front.
Cap and trade? we are supposed to hand money over to poorer countries as a penalty that we created more pollution.Equals, money from the rich stolen, then given to others by a government, socialism, world order.


ya ya, you said that before, now you might make a claim he is for business from hiring the new guy that came from (worked at) several corporations.
But Obama, and cap and trade is a way to push (equalize) wealth away from the USA to lesser nations.(socialism)

I call that socialism, same for the fact Germany has to bail out OTHER countries, ones with less workers, less jobs, lower wages, they can't keep up to the richer countries.
so "share the wealth" just how is that not socialism, all because a person runs a business, makes a profit, then be forced to hand over cash, samo samo in my book.



The more you make, the more you make.

If a company creates more profit it makes more money.
If a company can't sell the product the workers suffer.
If a higher tax imposed by a government means we all workers pay more for the product therefore removing "workers take control of the means of production".

But you call that capitalist, 1 worker costs a lot because of government regulation.
Tack on a 10 year plan to build a factory here because of regulation.
Increase the cost of oil from global warming nonsense
Assist by a law, unions to control the company profit.

But of course he shifts into "Obamacare"

I would have built (yes tax money from the paycheck, and that stimulus money) medical clinics, tons of medical clinics , start training for more doctors right away.Instant jobs putting up clinics all over the place.

Reason? say I get a sliver, or fall and my ribs hurt, or have a some illness, or a heart attack, all emergency room stuff.

Only one page of paperwork, oh and 2 ambulances at each clinic.
In this way if you are hurt the top thing to have is extremely fast help, or free checkups for other problems.

It would relieve the hospitals from giving free emergency room care, I would force insurance and hospitals to lower the cost directly from the savings.
Each clinic should be able to have an xray machine and some beds, rooms, enough to either send you home, or send to the hospital right away.

This I would pay for because it would help me directly if I got hurt but not enough to sign your life away from some friggen "hospital".At the same time you could make it there and not bleed to death, or get antibiotics very fast, or in bad weather, would make me feel secure.

what these freak socialists are doing is government control.

"Sir could you goto room 93,,ok,,"sir did you fill out form 8623a?,, ahh no,,, "ok sir you need to goto the other building and talk to Dr striviviviv then come back,,,ok,,,

,back to room 93, ''' sir I see here you smoke,,, yep,,,,"ok well you need to fill out form 9345 and come back to room 118,,,cough, ahh sure,,,

room 118,, hello I was sent here from the other place down the hall,,""" we will see you in a minute, ..finally,,, """ sir you do know a smoker cannot get test, abcdefghijklmnopqrstwxyz,,,what?,,, just go home and fucking die, hal Obama !!.

while they soak up all the cash with red tape. got to be equal for all, right?, socialism.

With my clinic idea, it would save piles of money because people would just go in, have checkups, no red tape, get pills right away, fast help, no questions asked.

Obamcare is a big giant nightmare for all, we don't want it.


60% on up, we.

No, if you goto a government office, go ahead tell them what you want.
Tack in medical things, a Doctor would help you, the government Doctor will be following a rule book.

government control

So the book says
50 years and older don't do this or that
50 year old that is overweight, do this or that
50 year old with wheelchair do this or that

You will be paid x amount
you are allowed x amount of money
if you run out of money (socialism)
just cut corners and let those who have broken arms live, anyone over 75 just rush them through.

Also you are dead wrong about unions, waaaay wrong, look at the stats.

Oh wait
rule #1


Wrong again, look at New York with the last snowstorm, they also have 6 unions just for bridges.

Illinois just increased tax by 66%, corporate tax from 4.8 to 7.5 (or close 4 to 7)

There are 576 "government" workers that will be given 100,000 a year pension, not including health benefits added in yet.
Something like $68,000,000 sixty eight million, will go to only 576 workers.

socialism, everyone pays to pay for "big government"

My can of tobacco went from $14.95 to .$30.99 in one swoop, why? to give money for a "CHIPS" program (child health care BS crap)
If a person with 4 kids and earns up to $80,000 a year can still get the benefit from that HANDOUT !!!!!!! socialism.!!!!!!

While I get nothing, zero zip nothing, and I in my dreams would love to earn even $25,000 a year, no kids, don't use the school system.

all class warfare all of it.


Another one I like is the catching the wild pigs.

You put up a fence one linear fence, 30 feet long, you toss out some food, the pigs wander over and eat.A few weeks go by and add another section, "handout" more food
Later add the third section, wait again, keep adding the food, after a while they know no different, you add the final section capturing the pigs.Later you add a gate and the pigs come willingly.What was once an individual, a hunter, surviver, wild animal looses it's hunting skills and becomes completely dependent on OTHERS to survive (socialism)

People need individuality to be creative, freedom to be productive, makes a good place to live and leads their own life.

These other countries are poor because they have to keep handing out the food, and the people expect it as if it is a normal ideology to run a country.

With capitalism, each person must work, the more we make the more we buy, the more we have, the better we succeed.The more we succeed the less poor people their are, the less tax we need.

Honestly I think he was trolling, especially after he did this-


Trump/Palin

2012
all USA, all the time.

and Ted Nugent ahead of the wildlife department.