Are people robots to authority and system

[spice756]

In my school I'm taking political science and sociology and subjects comes up many times that me explain what I mean here.

In earth history it has been full of police corruption and abuse of power not to say dictators. And for most people are very submission to authority or society rules unless social unrest or crisis.In other words revolution has come has by social hardship a severe suffering or privation a intolerable levels of hardship.

And one can look at the world today and see many dictators , lack of democracy , police corruption and abuse of power in the world.And no Egypt is not the only place one can look at Africa , Asia and South America and Central America and find many countries lack democracy ,police corruption and abuse of power not to say government corruption !!

So people are hardwire for authority and society rules or we would have revolution happing every day.

Now on to the capitalism part has we are reading up on it too.Most people don't know just how shit capitalism is not even communists here.

Yes capitalism leads to exploitation in the work place ,class struggle , poverty , poor , crime, homeless and monoply not say rich and class hierarchy. But it is more than that !!!! The rich and elite use media and propaganda to culture sociaty. In a way you have no freedom when it comes to what yo want to buy or own and how you should dress or look.Has you are cultured the capitalism propaganda.The idea of greed , being rich , having lots money and dressing to fit in a rich sub group is all part of capitalism propaganda.

Remember


Star Trek: The Next Generation Season 1 and episode 26 called the The Neutral Zone the discover an ancient space capsule from Earth. Inside, they find twelve cryonic chambers, with only three survivors ,The three humans are found to be from the late 20th Century, having opted to place themselves in cryogenic sleep shortly after their death in hopes a cure will be found in the future ,All are initially stunned by learning of the future and the current state of technology, while Riker and Data help to seek any current living descendants. Offenhouse becomes irritated by not having access to his former wealth, news, or other information, and demands to see Captain Picard. Picard assures him that all will be answered in good time, but their current situation is very tense and requires his utmost attention

Well basically he say where is my stock and wealth and the Captain say what stock :laugh:what wealth :laugh:we have no money all forms of money and wealth is abolished.There is no poverty or poor you can have any thing you want .

Also note fads and norms are part of capitalism too.That why capitalism is more than just economics.

Why do we still have capitalism ?

1. people program to think that capitalism is the best and no other way
2. small group say capitalism sucks but I'm only one person and cannot make a change.
3. middle class I want to be middle class and afraid a change I will not be middle class any more so plaese that keep capitalism even if it is not good.

Well basically that is why we still have capitalism .So in the end people are robots than.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

There are no mysteries to us with regards to the ideological state apparatus and how those institutions (the media, education, families etc) do in fact condition the population into thinking in ways that keep capitalism alive.

However, these institutions are not all powerful, human beings are capable for thinking for themselves and it can take the smallest event to make a person question the whole framework that controls their life. That is where we come in and promote the alternative ideas of the left. Take a look at pre-industrial Britain; people were, largely, idiots because of the ideological state apparatuses that dominated them, mostly religion, and the notion of people questioning that source of power was absolutely ridiculous. Our revolution was not as successful as the French's, but there is no denying that the oppressive grip of religion was undermined and this paved the way for a scientific and industrial revolution that changed the world and how people understood it. A few hundred years before and the prospect of that happening would've sounded absolutely crazy to any given peasent.

The point is that people are conditioned into being 'robots' in order to keep capitalism in function, this is no mystery. People are not naturally robots though, it is power and dominance through various forms of force (the class system and its ideological and repressive institutions) that keep people ignorant, and these are what we have to overcome, and promote our ideas to all oppressed people, so that they can overthrow them and restructure society.

In one minute, a man may be a robot. The next he may be a revolutionary, given his conditions. As Trotsky said, 'ideas that enter the mind under fire remain there securly and forever'. These are the ideas that we promote, and they will be attractive to any subject of capitalism once he or she becomes conscious of their oppression.

Part of me does think that various aspects of the media should be destroyed with force, as a means of propaganda. Perhaps we could occupy the X-Factor studio or something whilst it is live. That's just a revolutionary fantasy though :).

[spice756]

However, these institutions are not all powerful, human beings are capable for thinking for themselves and it can take the smallest event to make a person question the whole framework that controls their life.

That is okay but so many people put so much faith in government and media that they cannot be wrong and do not question them. Has person who is very skeptical of the government and media will do their own investigation.

Not enough people do this and is sad.


That is where we come in and promote the alternative ideas of the left. Take a look at pre-industrial Britain;

You mean the middle ages ? Not much science and technology has people put faith in the church and science and knowledge was taboo .It was hard life and people put faith in the church .The church ban scientific teaching and had religious teaching.

People where very superstitious.



people were, largely, idiots because of the ideological state apparatuses that dominated them, mostly religion, and the notion of people questioning that source of power was absolutely ridiculous.

Human nature not question authority .



Our revolution was not as successful as the French's, but there is no denying that the oppressive grip of religion was undermined and this paved the way for a scientific and industrial revolution that changed the world and how people understood it.

What do you mean here



A few hundred years before and the prospect of that happening would've sounded absolutely crazy to any given peasent.


Like I say people are very very submission to authority or society rules unless social unrest or crisis or very bad hardship .

[#FF0000]

You're posting this while all of North Africa is on fire.

[spice756]

You're posting this while all of North Africa is on fire.

What do you mean?

[hatzel]

What do you mean?

One can assume that the system, those authoritarian puppet-masters at the control panel for their robotic populace, probably didn't want the masses, you know...kind of rebelling all over the place, challenging the system, bringing it down, installing a new government, all that kind of stuff. Does nothing in this suggest to you that people might not be robots controlled by the state, or do you consider these uprisings to be somehow orchestrated by the very regimes they claim to oppose? :confused: