Is it racist?

[Manifesto]

While watching one of the older episodes of South Park there was the episode where Cartman gets a million dollars. When Kyle's parents were telling Kyle the story of Job they get to the part where the barbarians kill Job's friends and family but I noticed something. Why were the murderous barbarians Arabic but the Hebrew men were all incredibly white? http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7438/south.jpg

[Ele'ill]

I don't like that show at all but probably as a second joke against racism classically portrayed in media?

[Magón]

A joke, possibly?

[Nolan]

I think you're racist.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

south park has always been notoriously bigoted
conservative bullshit poorly disguised as progressive
as an edgy show that pushes boundaries
while in reality its basically nothing more than hamfisted cocky humor for self indulgent privileged white boys
virtually all jokes made at the expense of those identified as different and less fortunate

[Magón]

south park has always been notoriously bigoted
conservative bullshit poorly disguised as progressive
as an edgy show that pushes boundaries
while in reality its basically nothing more than hamfisted cocky humor for self indulgent privileged white boys
virtually all jokes made at the expense of those identified as different and less fortunate

I thought the episode where people from the future come to get jobs, was pretty funny, and made some good jokes at the immigration issue the US has.

[Manic Impressive]

south park has always been notoriously bigoted
conservative bullshit poorly disguised as progressive
as an edgy show that pushes boundaries
while in reality its basically nothing more than hamfisted cocky humor for self indulgent privileged white boys
virtually all jokes made at the expense of those identified as different and less fortunate
Now who's generalizing based on race :rolleyes:

[Black Sheep]

south park has always been notoriously bigoted
conservative bullshit poorly disguised as progressive
as an edgy show that pushes boundaries
while in reality its basically nothing more than hamfisted cocky humor for self indulgent privileged white boys
virtually all jokes made at the expense of those identified as different and less fortunate
:rolleyes:
Moron.

[Rusty Shackleford]

all of you are racists.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Now who's generalizing based on race :rolleyes:

it's a racist, bigoted, male chauvinist show. replete with individualistic, liberal conservative propaganda delivered in an arbitrarily offensive idiotic testosterone pumped fashion. who else would it be for?
im not surprised to see revlefters become defensive like this when south park and george carlin come under atack. this forum has aways been populated almost exclusively with white priviledged first world testy young men. i just hoped people would be more critical when it came to utter garbage like south park.

to cite one example, that movie they did some years ago called team america included an incredibly ofensive caricature of kim jung il, with every over the top stereotipical trait of east asians.
this schtick of "no political boundaries" that they supposedly go for where in theory everyone is equally made fun of is a ridiculous bourgeois myth. whites do not suffer racial oppression and discrimination. their humor is one more form of attacking the already underprivileged and oppressed.

[ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo]

Nah South Park isn't racist they kill Kenny who happens to be white, if poor. They treat him like shit really. They have alien homosexuals in one episode, so they're not too homophobic.

So suck my Jagon.

[Il Medico]

im not surprised to see revlefters become defensive like this when south park and george carlin come under atack.
I don't really care about southpark. It is racist and sexist from what I've seen and not really all that funny. But George Carlin was fucking hilarious, so [Insert overly defensive insult as a result to white privilege and secret racism here].

[Omi]

Why is George Carlin lumped in together with South Park? I think they are quite opposite. Carlin never did any racist jokes as far as I remember and was always quite left wing. Can you give some examples of Carlin doing the same kind of jokes South Park does?

[Fulanito de Tal]

it's a racist, bigoted, male chauvinist show. replete with individualistic, liberal conservative propaganda delivered in an arbitrarily offensive idiotic testosterone pumped fashion. who else would it be for?

to cite one example, that movie they did some years ago called team america included an incredibly ofensive caricature of kim jung il, with every over the top stereotipical trait of east asians.
this schtick of "no political boundaries" that they supposedly go for where in theory everyone is equally made fun of is a ridiculous bourgeois myth. whites do not suffer racial oppression and discrimination. their humor is one more form of attacking the already underprivileged and oppressed.

Nice :thumbup1:

Their Bigger, Longer, and Uncut movie depicted Sadam Hussein as a gay guy in love with Satan. Loving Satan is not bad for Satanics and homosexuality is beautiful for those that identify with it. However, Sadam was also painted as dumbass and was the bad guy of the movie, where as the protagonists were four white boys from rural US.

[Nolan]

They depict Saddam as gay. Thus they are equating homosexuality with tyranny and genocide.

Homophobes.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

its sad when even among the supposedly conscious racidal left there are still people who either are unable to see bigotry in the mainstream corporate entertainment media or they just don't care about it
or more likely both

[Tablo]

Southpark is very racist. I still watch it though. :P

[southernmissfan]

Does the term "South Park Republican" ring a bell?

Though I am curious as to why Dr. Rosenpenis lumped Carlin in with South Park. The man's career spanned decades so there's no doubt you can find some questionable quotes from him but I wouldn't consider them very similar.

[Rusty Shackleford]

ive never heard the term south park republican.


wtf does that mean?

[Revolte_Wolf]

it's a racist, bigoted, male chauvinist show. replete with individualistic, liberal conservative propaganda delivered in an arbitrarily offensive idiotic testosterone pumped fashion. who else would it be for?
im not surprised to see revlefters become defensive like this when south park and george carlin come under atack. this forum has aways been populated almost exclusively with white priviledged first world testy young men. i just hoped people would be more critical when it came to utter garbage like south park.

to cite one example, that movie they did some years ago called team america included an incredibly ofensive caricature of kim jung il, with every over the top stereotipical trait of east asians.
this schtick of "no political boundaries" that they supposedly go for where in theory everyone is equally made fun of is a ridiculous bourgeois myth. whites do not suffer racial oppression and discrimination. their humor is one more form of attacking the already underprivileged and oppressed.


people shouldn't take cartoons seriously, unless they are on acid it doesn't make much sense.

[southernmissfan]

ive never heard the term south park republican.


wtf does that mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_park_republican

Essentially a young, "egdy" libertarian type. Sympathize with the Republican party/conservatism except for the religious fundamentalism and some of the extreme social conservatism that has dominated for the last couple decades. Like to be "politically incorrect"--which is often a codeword for being a racist/sexist/xenophobic/chauvinist bigot.

[Pirate Utopian]

Self indulgent privileged white pride!

[Manifesto]

I think you're racist.
Oh god not one of you people.

[Vanguard1917]

South Park is great. And how can it be racist when it has a black character (called Token Black)?

[Proukunin]

it's not racist, it is full of libertarian and conservative bullshit sometimes. but a lot of it is still fuckin funny.

and george carlin was a member of the YIPPIES i think.

[Os Cangaceiros]

South Park has some good satire, occassionally. Just when I think that it's in a slump that it'll never come out of, it suprises me with a really brilliant piece of television (such as the "Make Love Not Warcraft" episode). Yes, it does have some negative ideological baggage, but most fictional entertainment that falls out of the "radical leftist" ideology (aka 100% of what's on TV) does, in some way or another.

[Quail]

Sometimes South Park can be really good and really funny, but sometimes it really isn't and makes me cringe.

[Pirate Utopian]

The superhero episodes they did were really funny. "Shut up Mintberry Crunch you arent even anything!!"

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

while in reality its basically nothing more than hamfisted cocky humor for self indulgent privileged white boys
I'm chicana and I like watching south park while I'm stoned. However I can't deny being self indulged, self absorbed, vain, etc.

[Princess Luna]

i would like to point out that the episodes Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride and Follow That Egg! were praised by GLAAD (gay and lesbian alliance against defamation) so i would not be so quick call the show homophobic. Also far from the views held by people on Stormfront that blacks are stupid savages , the 2 main black characters on South Park (Token and Chef) are both shown to be extremely talented and smart while racist whites are portrayed as being stupid and ignorant.

[Nolan]

i would like to point out that the episodes Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride and Follow That Egg! were praised by GLAAD (gay and lesbian alliance against defamation) so i would not be so quick call the show homophobic. Also far from the views held by people on Stormfront that blacks are stupid savages , the 2 main black characters on South Park (Token and Chef) are both shown to be extremely talented and smart while racist whites are portrayed as being stupid and ignorant.

Why are you defending bigotry?

[L.A.P.]

I loved South Park and Family Guy when I was in middle school but South Park just makes me cringe now a days especially since the creators expressed a hatred for Seth McFarlane as if impersonating every kindergarten-style drawn celebrity with the same voice requires so much more talent. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are some of the stupidest people I've ever seen.

[gorillafuck]

im not surprised to see revlefters become defensive like this when south park and george carlin come under atack. this forum has aways been populated almost exclusively with white priviledged first world testy young men.
yeah south park can be right wing, that's true. But George Carlin wasn't right wing at all. Lol at your lack of sense and inability to comprehend George Carlins humor and your sorry, pathetic attempt to hide behind that lack of sense through accusing people of privledge. George Carlins favorite topic in the world was basically to make fun of the religious right and right wing politics. But whatever, it's easier to accuse him of sending a racist right wing message and make an uninformed ass out of yourself if you ignore the stuff he actually makes jokes about.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

It is racist and I think it's racist for a reason. There's a reason why the most racist person on the show, Cartman, is shown as the most ridiculous person there is. I mean really I think the reason for the racism and other bs, is to put it right out in front of your face and to show how stupid it really is.

[Princess Luna]

Why are you defending bigotry?
lol I am not defending bigotry , I am defending South Park against the charge of bigotry.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

lol I am not defending bigotry , I am defending South Park against the charge of bigotry.
And what about the clearly transphobic episode where they quite grossly misrepresent transition and sex change procedures.

The show is offensive. But when I am stoned anything becomes funny.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

yeah south park can be right wing, that's true. But George Carlin wasn't right wing at all. Lol at your lack of sense and inability to comprehend George Carlins humor and your sorry, pathetic attempt to hide behind that lack of sense through accusing people of privledge. George Carlins favorite topic in the world was basically to make fun of the religious right and right wing politics. But whatever, it's easier to accuse him of sending a racist right wing message and make an uninformed ass out of yourself if you ignore the stuff he actually makes jokes about.

i never said that carlin was racist or right wing. i compared his act to the kkk because of his fondness for over the top condescending shouting at people from atop a bullshit ivory tower. i also think that like south park and its creators, carlin is a self indulgent affluent white man who like to shit all over everybody because his priviledge makes his immune.
and i think a case certainly could be made for carlin being a bigot. an arrogant "enlightened" first world white man angrily and dogmaticaly attacking billions of people all over the world for their religiosity, etc.

[Princess Luna]

And what about the clearly transphobic episode where they quite grossly misrepresent transition and sex change procedures.

The show is offensive. But when I am stoned anything becomes funny.
ok you have me on that one , but i still stand by the fact that most of the offensiveness is ment for "shock" value and should be taken as a statement about the creator's views.

[gorillafuck]

an arrogant "enlightened" first world white man angrily and dogmaticaly attacking billions of people all over the world for their religiosity, etc.
Because when Carlin talks about the religious right he's talking about poor pakistanis.

Once again, have you listened to Carlins act? If you have, and you didn't pick up on how he consistently attacks those in power in the US, you don't pay enough attention.

[Os Cangaceiros]

i compared his act to the kkk because of his fondness for over the top condescending shouting at people from atop a bullshit ivory tower.

wut

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

its called hyperbole you morons

[Os Cangaceiros]

It doesn't make sense even as hyperbole.

[synthesis]

And what about the clearly transphobic episode where they quite grossly misrepresent transition and sex change procedures.

The show is offensive. But when I am stoned anything becomes funny.

They grossly misrepresent many things. That's kind of the point.

[Manic Impressive]

This forum sometimes reminds me of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdmYInXplY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdmYInXplY)