American Republicans want to redefine rape

[DylanCD]

jezebel.com/5747173/don't-let-the-right-wing-redefine-rape

The American Conservative Party (Republicans) want to basically make it so that, if a woman is date raped (I.E. has a drug slipped to her) or it is statatory rape (Non-violent rape of a minor by someone over the age of consent), she will be unable to recieve government assistance to recieve an abortion.

This is the ignorant, bass-ackwards bullshit conservative christian shitcannery that makes my blood boil! Mind you , this is the same party that housed sociopaths whom said that girls who are raped should "take lemons and make them into lemonaid"

Fucking. Amazing.:cursing:

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

Pathetic how right-wing fundamentalists claim to be all about so-called "family values", and yet they are supporting measures that will inevitably lead to more families where violence is the norm, where rape is the genesis of human life (and the family).

[Fulanito de Tal]

Pathetic how right-wing fundamentalists claim to be all about so-called "family values", and yet they are supporting measures that will inevitably lead to more families where violence is the norm, where rape is the genesis of human life (and the family).

Family values is code for patriarchy.

[sologdin]

relevant proposed statute text:



‘SEC. 309. TREATMENT OF ABORTIONS RELATED TO RAPE, INCEST, OR PRESERVING THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

‘The limitations established in sections 301, 302, 303, and 304 shall not apply to an abortion--

‘(1) if the pregnancy occurred because the pregnant female was the subject of an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest; or

‘(2) in the case where the pregnant female suffers from a physical disorder, physical injury, or physical illness that would, as certified by a physician, place the pregnant female in danger of death unless an abortion is performed, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself.


(full proposal available at govtrack, HR 3 for 112th congress, the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act.)

unlikely that this proposal is enacted, considering the reality of US politics at the moment.

even were it to pass, it is unconstitutional.

[blake 3:17]

unlikely that this proposal is enacted, considering the reality of US politics at the moment.

even were it to pass, it is unconstitutional.

The threat, constitutional or not, is an attack on women's rights.

[SamV]

lmao

[MarxistMan]

And not only that, the whole USA is a jail, because in this country the US justice system has all these fascist labels and categories, to satanize you, labels that totally twist reality, labels and judgements used in hearings, to lock people in jail even if inocent. For example in USA flirting with a girl might label you as a "Sex predator" or "Sex Stalker". So how the hell can we fall in love in a nation like this?

I mean are the US authorities trying to create a love-less nation without biological, sexual atraction between people because with so many anti-flirting, anti-sex laws nobody would have the motivation to even ask a girl to go out on a date.

Not only that, because of the anti-scientific nature of the US justice system a girl out of hatred, or revenge can sue you for rape even if you didn't rape her. or neighbors can sue you if you play loud music

I think that fascist states like the USA use all the US citizens, i mean the 300 million people as police, as cops, to police each other and to arrest each other. what a hell, a nation where not only fascist pigs, CIA and FBI harass people but also your own neighbors.

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jezebel.com/5747173/don't-let-the-right-wing-redefine-rape

The American Conservative Party (Republicans) want to basically make it so that, if a woman is date raped (I.E. has a drug slipped to her) or it is statatory rape (Non-violent rape of a minor by someone over the age of consent), she will be unable to recieve government assistance to recieve an abortion.

This is the ignorant, bass-ackwards bullshit conservative christian shitcannery that makes my blood boil! Mind you , this is the same party that housed sociopaths whom said that girls who are raped should "take lemons and make them into lemonaid"

Fucking. Amazing.:cursing:

[MarxistMan]

You are right, an excess of moralist laws, anti-sex laws, leads to a sexually repressed society. And sex is a basic biological need like food, and when males live in sexually repressed societies sooner or later many single repressed males would explode and rape women out of desperation and anxiety

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Pathetic how right-wing fundamentalists claim to be all about so-called "family values", and yet they are supporting measures that will inevitably lead to more families where violence is the norm, where rape is the genesis of human life (and the family).

[Amphictyonis]

Family values

4KIvAXPEcaE

[synthesis]

And not only that, the whole USA is a jail, because in this country the US justice system has all these fascist labels and categories, to satanize you, labels that totally twist reality, labels and judgements used in hearings, to lock people in jail even if inocent. For example in USA flirting with a girl might label you as a "Sex predator" or "Sex Stalker". So how the hell can we fall in love in a nation like this?

I mean are the US authorities trying to create a love-less nation without biological, sexual atraction between people because with so many anti-flirting, anti-sex laws nobody would have the motivation to even ask a girl to go out on a date.

Not only that, because of the anti-scientific nature of the US justice system a girl out of hatred, or revenge can sue you for rape even if you didn't rape her. or neighbors can sue you if you play loud music

I think that fascist states like the USA use all the US citizens, i mean the 300 million people as police, as cops, to police each other and to arrest each other. what a hell, a nation where not only fascist pigs, CIA and FBI harass people but also your own neighbors.

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http://images.whatport80.com/images/9/9e/HA_HA_HA,_OH_WOW.jpg

[Blackscare]

Between this and the recent thread that he started about socialism and cancer, I really think this is just some hilariously clumsy troll trying to get some funny quotes out of people for stormfront. Or wherever. Really, not a clever bone in these people.



Either that, or dude, WOW.

[synthesis]

Between this and the recent thread that he started about socialism and cancer, I really think this is just some hilariously clumsy troll trying to get some funny quotes out of people for stormfront. Or wherever. Really, not a clever bone in these people.



Either that, or dude, WOW.

The best trolling is rooted in a kernel of truth.

(Truth as perceived by the troll, I mean.)

[Catmatic Leftist]

So far, I like this guy. He's really entertaining.

[sologdin]

The threat, constitutional or not, is an attack on women's rights.

no doubt.


it is a bit of unworthy propaganda, though, for this to be represented as a redefinition of rape. it is more in the manner of an adjectival restriction on which rapes qualify for medicaid remibursement when exercise of the right to terminate pregnancy is at issue.

regarding the basic legal definition of "rape," the statute is silent.

the statute is likewise sloppy to the extent that it fails to define the "forcible rape" that is relevant to reimbursement, but we can approximate it.

in the great state of louisiana, for instance:



A. Forcible rape is rape committed when the anal, oral, or vaginal sexual intercourse is deemed to be without the lawful consent of the victim because it is committed under any one or more of the following circumstances:

(1) When the victim is prevented from resisting the act by force or threats of physical violence under circumstances where the victim reasonably believes that such resistance would not prevent the rape.

(2) When the victim is incapable of resisting or of understanding the nature of the act by reason of stupor or abnormal condition of the mind produced by a narcotic or anesthetic agent or other controlled dangerous substance administered by the offender and without the knowledge of the victim.

it likely also includes worse items:



Aggravated rape is a rape committed upon a person sixty-five years of age or older or where the anal, oral, or vaginal sexual intercourse is deemed to be without lawful consent of the victim because it is committed under any one or more of the following circumstances:

(1) When the victim resists the act to the utmost, but whose resistance is overcome by force.

(2) When the victim is prevented from resisting the act by threats of great and immediate bodily harm, accompanied by apparent power of execution.

(3) When the victim is prevented from resisting the act because the offender is armed with a dangerous weapon.

(4) When the victim is under the age of thirteen years. Lack of knowledge of the victim's age shall not be a defense.

(5) When two or more offenders participated in the act.

(6) When the victim is prevented from resisting the act because the victim suffers from a physical or mental infirmity preventing such resistance.


the adjective likely is intended to sweep medicaid reimbursement for exercise to the right to terminate pregnancy from conceptions arising out of date rape, acquaintance rape, and other items not involving battery or threat of same.

however, it could be produce an unwanted parade of horribles if some high court were to rule that "forcible rape" does not apply to incest committed on a juvenile under 13 years of age when that juvenile voluntarily participated in coitus with the rapist (i.e., to the extent that a juvenile of that age can voluntarily do anything--the point would be, for this high court, that there was no force, threat of force, or narcotics). in such a situation, which i suspect to be common, it is plausible, though not just, that the statute could compel the juvenile victim of incest to carry the fetus to term.