Log in

View Full Version : Global Minimum Wage



Victus Mortuum
31st January 2011, 09:08
What do you all think of a push for this or other global bare minimum protections for the working class (such as work weeks or basic labor rights)? Could it perhaps be a prerequisite to global revolution to first bring the global working class a) into a global political consciousness and b) out of dire poverty? I've seen a few people talk about this and was wondering your thoughts?

Edit:

Another hypothetical benefit of this would be to circumvent some of the global economic policy power that global corporations have usurped through globalization...

Edit 2:

Another separate but related question:

What does revleft make of direct election of U.N. representatives as a complement to the above to act as at least a slight restraint on global corporate power?

ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo
31st January 2011, 09:21
How can there be a global minimum wage if natinos don't have a standard currency? Are we to assume it's part of the scenario that we have one or am I missing something?

Victus Mortuum
31st January 2011, 16:43
Well, you could

a) Set the minimum as an inflation-adjusted value in several currencies and update it yearly as the different currencies inflated or deflated

b) Set the minimum as a relative value to some global wage value that is currency independent, such as: 25% of the global median wage

Both of those are possible standards that could be (hypothetically) taken up by the U.N.

Princess Luna
31st January 2011, 17:08
it would NEVER happen , First world companies rely on the poor in the Third world for cheap labor if the U.N. threatened this we would see a shit storm occur , and the U.S. would threaten to remove all support from the U.N. (like it has threatened to do several times in the past to get it's way) if they didn't drop it. However if we are talking about post-capitalism then yes of course i support it and i don't see why any socialist wouldn't.

Victus Mortuum
31st January 2011, 19:30
Well, I'm sure that nobody thought they could get an 8-hour workday in their respective countries before they fought their fuckin asses off for it - and that 8-hour workday made it easier for workers to educate and organize themselves.

Die Neue Zeit
1st February 2011, 03:05
What do you all think of a push for this or other global bare minimum protections for the working class (such as work weeks or basic labor rights)? Could it perhaps be a prerequisite to global revolution to first bring the global working class a) into a global political consciousness and b) out of dire poverty? I've seen a few people talk about this and was wondering your thoughts?

Edit:

Another hypothetical benefit of this would be to circumvent some of the global economic policy power that global corporations have usurped through globalization...

Edit 2:

Another separate but related question:

What does revleft make of direct election of U.N. representatives as a complement to the above to act as at least a slight restraint on global corporate power?

I did write about it, comrade, and the main target of such numerical global labour minimums would be global labour arbitrage. Now, seeing as the UN is an unequal suffrage bourgeois institution, and since some of the members are authoritarian capitalist states, I don't really care about how it's elected.

Rooster
1st February 2011, 03:10
This would just be a distraction. Labour battles would end up being focused on minimum wages instead of overthrowing the whole wage slave system.

Die Neue Zeit
1st February 2011, 03:17
This would just be a distraction. Labour battles would end up being focused on minimum wages instead of overthrowing the whole wage slave system.

How exactly is "matching the transnational mobility of labour with the establishment of a transnationally entrenched bill of workers’ political and economic rights, and with the realization of a globalized and upward equal standard of living for equal work, thus allowing real freedom of movement through instant legalization and open borders, and thereby precluding the extreme exploitation of immigrants" a distraction?

PhoenixAsh
1st February 2011, 03:23
it would NEVER happen , First world companies rely on the poor in the Third world for cheap labor if the U.N. threatened this we would see a shit storm occur , and the U.S. would threaten to remove all support from the U.N. (like it has threatened to do several times in the past to get it's way) if they didn't drop it. However if we are talking about post-capitalism then yes of course i support it and i don't see why any socialist wouldn't.


well...to be fair...they would probably agree when the hight of it is set to the level of the poorest participator ;-)