Redswiss
28th January 2011, 15:40
Okay, here goes.
This thread's OP will probably be quite unorganized, for I do not know what formatting to adhere to.
Statements will be deliberately made in an accusing manner.
Also, a Communism Expert is not me.
And, of course, everything is written from a kinda European Swiss perspective.
1. Communism is undemocratic.
While the ultimate form may be democratic indeed, getting there is another story entirely.
We have, for example, the Aufbau organization of Switzerland. It was only some days ago when
a parliamentary representative of the SPP (rightist-conservative party; Swiss People's Party),
walked right past the obviously leftist black bloc of a demonstration. Of course, he got some stones.
While this obviously foolish action could almost be considered to be deliberate to defame the left, this reflects something I consider a problem.
No matter how unpleasant that party might be, this official represents a democratically elected official of the people.
To attack him is to take a shit on the opinions of those who think wrongly in their perspective.
Is this approach not fascist, not to mention not very democratic?
If we extrapolate, we'll find that revolutions are also undemocratic.
I suspect that only a very small minority of the Swiss people follows a communist agenda, yet, the left behaves as if in fact,
everybody is leftist, and would probably have a revolution if possible, whether the people will it or not.
Bottom line, the left should only do what truly represents the democratic opinion of the people, not
what represents what they think the opinion of the people should be.
2. Communism, as is, is unproductive
I am aware that communist groups have done much in other areas. In Europe, not so. All which I ever see is anarchists destroying this,
communists beating up that. The Antifa might be the
most ardent outgrowth of this behaviour. Expressing anger against the state and certain groups is a very easy thing to do
and is done with great eagerness. Groups such as Antifa, I think, might even attract the wrong group of people - vandals and such,
'merely looking for some fun and excitement.
I have yet to hear of a group though which really
did something that directly benefited the people - a communist help group,
some leftist group truly servicing the people. Free soup or whatever, I wouldn't know.
Bottom line, the left only shows its violent side, stating humanitarian principles as they go
(which are dismissed by the people because that seems utterly laughable when all they do is destroy stuff and people). This is not how you get the people's support, mates.
3. Is Communism right? (More of a philosophical one)
How can a leftist (or a member of any political group, really) fight for his beliefs?
To do so sensibly obviously requires assuming that one's ideology is true,
and the way the world should work.
However, how can anyone assume that one's beliefs are true? Communism (and other political ideologies) are based on abstract principles, such as humanitarianism. Those abstract principles are based on ethical and moral perspectives, yet, no absolute ethical and moral ruleset exists. This works for any political belief; It is always believing one's underlying ethical and moral principles to be right and the others' to be wrong, and that the others' principles must be corrected.
I might as well extrapolate that deep down, any political belief is fascist and authoritarian.
This thread's OP will probably be quite unorganized, for I do not know what formatting to adhere to.
Statements will be deliberately made in an accusing manner.
Also, a Communism Expert is not me.
And, of course, everything is written from a kinda European Swiss perspective.
1. Communism is undemocratic.
While the ultimate form may be democratic indeed, getting there is another story entirely.
We have, for example, the Aufbau organization of Switzerland. It was only some days ago when
a parliamentary representative of the SPP (rightist-conservative party; Swiss People's Party),
walked right past the obviously leftist black bloc of a demonstration. Of course, he got some stones.
While this obviously foolish action could almost be considered to be deliberate to defame the left, this reflects something I consider a problem.
No matter how unpleasant that party might be, this official represents a democratically elected official of the people.
To attack him is to take a shit on the opinions of those who think wrongly in their perspective.
Is this approach not fascist, not to mention not very democratic?
If we extrapolate, we'll find that revolutions are also undemocratic.
I suspect that only a very small minority of the Swiss people follows a communist agenda, yet, the left behaves as if in fact,
everybody is leftist, and would probably have a revolution if possible, whether the people will it or not.
Bottom line, the left should only do what truly represents the democratic opinion of the people, not
what represents what they think the opinion of the people should be.
2. Communism, as is, is unproductive
I am aware that communist groups have done much in other areas. In Europe, not so. All which I ever see is anarchists destroying this,
communists beating up that. The Antifa might be the
most ardent outgrowth of this behaviour. Expressing anger against the state and certain groups is a very easy thing to do
and is done with great eagerness. Groups such as Antifa, I think, might even attract the wrong group of people - vandals and such,
'merely looking for some fun and excitement.
I have yet to hear of a group though which really
did something that directly benefited the people - a communist help group,
some leftist group truly servicing the people. Free soup or whatever, I wouldn't know.
Bottom line, the left only shows its violent side, stating humanitarian principles as they go
(which are dismissed by the people because that seems utterly laughable when all they do is destroy stuff and people). This is not how you get the people's support, mates.
3. Is Communism right? (More of a philosophical one)
How can a leftist (or a member of any political group, really) fight for his beliefs?
To do so sensibly obviously requires assuming that one's ideology is true,
and the way the world should work.
However, how can anyone assume that one's beliefs are true? Communism (and other political ideologies) are based on abstract principles, such as humanitarianism. Those abstract principles are based on ethical and moral perspectives, yet, no absolute ethical and moral ruleset exists. This works for any political belief; It is always believing one's underlying ethical and moral principles to be right and the others' to be wrong, and that the others' principles must be corrected.
I might as well extrapolate that deep down, any political belief is fascist and authoritarian.