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Pierre.Laporte
21st January 2011, 00:17
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/20/libertarian-guns-boston/

Police in Arlington, MA this week seized a large amount of weapons and ammunition from local businessman Travis Corcoran after he wrote a blog post threatening U.S. lawmakers in the wake of the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ). In a post on his blog (which has since been removed) titled 1 down and 534 to go 1 referring to Giffords and 534 referring to the rest of the House of Representatives and the Senate Corcoran applauded the shooting of Giffords and justified the assassination of lawmakers because he argued the federal government has grown far beyond its constitutional limits. It is absolutely, absolutely unacceptable to shoot indiscriminately. Target only politicians and their staff and leave regular citizens alone, he wrote in the post. We certainly take this as a credible threat, Arlington police Captain Robert Bongiorno told reporters, adding that multiple federal law enforcement agencies were involved. Authorities also suspended Corcorans gun license, though he is currently not facing any charges.
Corcoran calls himself an anarcho-capitalist and while his blog has been taken down, based on his Twitter page, he appears to hold views similar to those of many in the anti-government libertarian wing of the conservative movement, like many tea party activists. Anarcho-capitalism is a radical subset of libertarianism, and is often referred to as libertarian-anarchy. For example, echoing calls from many on the right, Corcoran tweeted, it is unconstitutional for the Feds to even run a department of education.

In a Twitter exchange with reporter Laura Leslie, Corcoran lays out a conventional anti-government philosophy, and explains in depth why he views assassination as legitimate:

I assert that the US federal gov has grown unconstitutionally large, and the legislature exceeds the powers delegated to it by the people, Corcoran wrote. As per the Declaration of Indep, when a gov becomes destructive those ends, it may be abolished, he continued, and the most moral approach is that which spares the maximum number of lives. Thus, assasination is a legitimate tool.
He goes on to further justify assassination as morally legitimate, citing Catholic Just War doctrine among other theories, and explains, Its illegal, yes, but its not un-American. America was founded on the idea of shooting gov officials. Lexington Concord! In another tweet, he writes, I disagree with murder. but shooting politicians who pass illegitimate, unconstitutional laws is not murder. And in case theres any doubt about his sincery, he writes, Nope, its not a joke. Im 100% serious.


I for one, am glad that actual anarchists have escaped all the pointed fingers. Marxists, and by extension all communists, seemed to get a few fingers pointed at them because of The Communist Manifesto on the guys YouTube page. Thanks to Sarah Palin, it seemed they got forgotten however.

More interestingly is how the sovereign citizen movement for one reason or another, has almost remained completely unscathed because of all this.

L.A.P.
21st January 2011, 00:32
Well he's right about one thing; America was founded on shooting gov. officials.

scarletghoul
21st January 2011, 00:40
The more significant side of this story is the fact that peoples blogs are now being taken very seriously by the government

American Assasin
21st January 2011, 00:42
This news sounds cool, I wonder how it will develop.

The Douche
21st January 2011, 00:50
Anarchists having problems with things cause they're illegal (unconstitutional).:rolleyes:

Its funny when anarcho-capitalists expose the unprincipled nature of their politics.

The Old Man from Scene 24
21st January 2011, 01:04
I'm glad that Right Wingers are losing their guns. Leaves them helpless.:D

Rafiq
21st January 2011, 01:12
I have no opinion on this.

I don't see it's importance.

People in the US get their guns taken away all the time.

The fact that Anarcho Caps are the victim, doesn't mean much to me.

They destroy and vandalize the name of anarchism.

Revolution starts with U
21st January 2011, 06:35
I don't think america shot first tho xx1994xx

Pierre.Laporte
21st January 2011, 06:44
I have no opinion on this.

I don't see it's importance.

People in the US get their guns taken away all the time.

The fact that Anarcho Caps are the victim, doesn't mean much to me.

They destroy and vandalize the name of anarchism.

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. I'm just glad that their name will get tarnished if only for a minute in the national spotlight when one them acts like an idiot... like they normally do (ask Keene New Hampshire how much they love An-Caps).

Granted they're always going to be a thorn in anarchists side just like the new "anarcho-nationalists" that are coming out of the fascist wood work.

Frosty Weasel
21st January 2011, 06:48
Huh. It looks like don't need to take out the US government.

It appears as though the Right will do it for us.

Rusty Shackleford
21st January 2011, 06:48
are you referring to the national anarchists or is it a new subset?

La Comédie Noire
21st January 2011, 06:49
Just another small government nut with a day job who got drunk on his own rhetoric.

Pierre.Laporte
21st January 2011, 08:37
are you referring to the national anarchists or is it a new subset?

Those are the ones. I can't keep up with whatever the latest anarchists are calling themselves these days, Anarcho-Nihilists, Anarcho-Feudalists, Anarcho-Monarchists, Anarcho-Creatists. Jeeze.

Jazzratt
21st January 2011, 16:54
Guy was a fucking moron (obviously, it's not like you can be an an-cap without first being a cretin) but the precedent set of trawling through people's blogs in order to take legal action against them is worrying though. I doubt that the left is going to remain untouched by that sort of thing.

ÑóẊîöʼn
21st January 2011, 17:42
Guy was a fucking moron (obviously, it's not like you can be an an-cap without first being a cretin) but the precedent set of trawling through people's blogs in order to take legal action against them is worrying though. I doubt that the left is going to remain untouched by that sort of thing.

The left in the US has suffered a lot worse under the attentions of the state. I've forgotten his name, but wasn't this one guy banged up once for having bomb-making instructions on his website he didn't write or post himself?

As for this incident, the guy applauded the murder of a government official and basically promoted their assassination. I don't blame the authorities for not trusting such an individual with large amounts of deadly weaponry.

I mean, consider a similar scenario - not long after the establishment of communism, there's this loudmouth promoting assassination of proletarians as a legitimate tactic for restoring capitalism, who is then found to have a large stockpile of weapons and ammunition. If I were a militia officer in such a situation, I'd be wanting to take his guns away too, or at the very least take him in for questioning.

Pierre.Laporte
21st January 2011, 18:08
Guy was a fucking moron (obviously, it's not like you can be an an-cap without first being a cretin) but the precedent set of trawling through people's blogs in order to take legal action against them is worrying though. I doubt that the left is going to remain untouched by that sort of thing.




As for this incident, the guy applauded the murder of a government official and basically promoted their assassination. I don't blame the authorities for not trusting such an individual with large amounts of deadly weaponry.

I mean, consider a similar scenario - not long after the establishment of communism, there's this loudmouth promoting assassination of proletarians as a legitimate tactic for restoring capitalism, who is then found to have a large stockpile of weapons and ammunition. If I were a militia officer in such a situation, I'd be wanting to take his guns away too, or at the very least take him in for questioning.

I can see both of your points. Frankly, An-Caps with their gun obsession kind of freak me out too, and it doesn't seem too absurd to me that someone advocating to kill elected officials has his house raided and is de-armed. Can you imagine if this guy shot a senator and it came out he said this?

However it is a slippery slope. If we can get raided for advocating for political assassinations, how long before we get arrested for PMing an undercover cop on a forum such as this to show up at a protest and charged with inciting to riot?

Well, we've already seen that slope to be honest. If you're an anti-war advocate in a lefty organization like the Students for a Democratic Society you can get your house raided (http://www.mndaily.com/2010/09/24/fbi-raids-student%E2%80%99s-employees%E2%80%99-homes).