Reactionary Chatter XVIII - Magic Numbers

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Get to it.

[Bud Struggle]

FINALLY! Thanks. :)

[Havet]

lame title

[Bud Struggle]

So you guys thinkyou know something about music? Let's see--take the test.

You have to register, but it's pretty interesting --and pretty demanding.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/labuk/experiments/musicality/

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

lame title

Fuck you, now it stays.

[#FF0000]

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[Havet]

Fuck you, now it stays.

That doesn't make it less lame

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

That doesn't make it less lame

Well that's just too bad, isn't it? :lol:

[Havet]

So you guys thinkyou know something about music? Let's see--take the test.

You have to register, but it's pretty interesting --and pretty demanding.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/labuk/experiments/musicality/

Here's my results:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8642/bbcresults.jpg

[hatzel]

YOU'RE ALL AS LAME AS THIS THREAD TITLE!!!

Except for one user...who will remain nameless, so that the rest don't get jealous...I'll refer to him by the codename 'Strud Buggle'. He's the antithesis (of / to / I don't speak English / delete as applicable) lame :)

[Havet]

YOU'RE ALL AS LAME AS THIS THREAD TITLE!!!

Except for one user...who will remain nameless, so that the rest don't get jealous...I'll refer to him by the codename 'Strud Buggle'. He's the antithesis (of / to / I don't speak English / delete as applicable) lame :)

rep-baiting if i ever saw one

[RGacky3]

I rarely post out here, but I gotta share one of my top 5 comedians, if not my favorate comedian (not for the faint of heart, past 2:20 this is one of his more offensive sets)

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When your done with that, you can recover with this :)

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[Ele'ill]

rep-baiting if i ever saw one

rep-baiting if i ever saw one

[Havet]

When your done with that, you can recover with this :)

OlKaVFqxERk

To be completely honest I didn't even bother with the first video. But as soon as I saw this title i knew i had heard this before, somewhere. Thanks for sharing!

[RGacky3]

Hahahah, look at you, you romantic.

[Ele'ill]

I didn't get very far through the first video- I liked the double edged sword part.

[RGacky3]

Heres some more for you you lovebird you.

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[Ele'ill]

The only thing lamer than rep-baiting is rep itself...

You can hide your rep from being seen if it bothers you. I like seeing who has appreciated my posts and seeing the specific posts that were appreciated.

[hatzel]

Actually my rep doesn't bother me at all...it's not baaaaad :rolleyes: Though I draw a line between thanking posts and then making a score out of it...I don't see that as entirely necessary...because really the whole score thing is just meaningless, as far as I'm concerned, and doesn't really show any difference between who is considered funny, who is considered to express interesting opinions eloquently, and who just picks out popular articles to post, that everybody thanks them for. Silly system! Meaningless number up there! Maybe I should hide it...

[#FF0000]

My video was the best one posted so far.

I love Louis CK though.

[hatzel]

My video was the best one posted so far.

Cocky...:rolleyes:

[#FF0000]

Cocky...:rolleyes:

APPARENTLY YOU DIDN'T WATCH IT.

'cause you'd agree if you did.

[hatzel]

Oh, I never said I didn't agree :o

[Ele'ill]

I got high and played 'The Polynomial' demo which is a steam game. Wow.

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[Ele'ill]

http://www.neave.com/television/

[Ele'ill]

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[#FF0000]

It's been a good couple of days. I met up with a huge group of old friends from high school and talking to them, realized that I am not nearly as much of a fuck up as I thought I was, considering I am working and going to school and I am not in jail for rape nor am I one of the many dumb scumbags that a lot of people I know have become.

I also scheduled myself for another Intro to Teaching class this semester. It turns out one of the professors is the one I had for the Intro class I failed last time around. He was apparently hella happy to see me back and told me "HANG IN THERE KID. YOU'RE GONNA DO ALRIGHT".

[L.A.P.]

Here's my results:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8642/bbcresults.jpg

70%-enthusiasm for music
99%-musical perception
93%-emotional connection
33%-social creativity
38%-musical curiosity (this is bullshit)

[Ele'ill]

70%-enthusiasm for music
99%-musical perception
93%-emotional connection
33%-social creativity
38%-musical curiosity (this is bullshit)

what site?

[American Assasin]

Most of the capitalists/libertarians who join this forum, just to be restricted are probably really smart, and know somewhat what they are talking about. That what I think.

[Ele'ill]

Most of the capitalists/libertarians who join this forum, just to be restricted are probably really smart, and know somewhat what they are talking about. That what I think.

What makes you think this?

[#FF0000]

Most of the capitalists/libertarians who join this forum, just to be restricted are probably really smart, and know somewhat what they are talking about. That what I think.

Some of them. A lot are not.

[American Assasin]

what do you think of me?

[#FF0000]

I don't think you know what you're talking about most of the time and I think you have a really, really naive view of the world and how economics actually works. I also think you have sort of poor judgement for cross-posting a blatantly racist post from some macho manchild's internet cave here. :mellow:

[American Assasin]

Oh sorry, Ill delete it.

[#FF0000]

Alright but, eh, damage might be done. I'm not sure why you posted it in the first place?

[Revolution starts with U]

So I climbed a mountain today. I can't help but feel imbued with it's strength. I passed it's trials and came out a better person.

ANd so far... I have to say... the west is far more beuatiful than the east (america). :tt1:

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Nothing like the thin mountain air in your lungs!

I do not think most of my New Yorker friends could handle the west. They cannot handle not hearing the sound of their voice for 30 seconds -- with the amount of open terrain out west I think they would go insane :laugh:

[Revolution starts with U]

OMG the air is thin. THere were points I felt I was dying. I've hiked a lot in the appalachians. It doesn't even compare to a small mountain in the Rockies.

This weekend we head down to the Four Corners region. Gona check out the Grand Canyon and some anasazzi ruins (I think it's anasazzi... i may be wrong. Pueblo's maybe... idk, kinda tired).

[Havet]

I got high and played 'The Polynomial' demo which is a steam game. Wow.


Meh. You don't even need to get high to play this game. The game makes you high.

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Skip to 2:15 for actual gameplay

[American Assasin]

Alright but, eh, damage might be done. I'm not sure why you posted it in the first place?

Because it sounded connected to the comment by one of the people who posted above me.

[Robert]

Your user name makes me uneasy, Assasin.

[hatzel]

Your user name makes me uneasy, Assasin.

So does yours. It's so...freaky...:rolleyes:

[American Assasin]

Are you religious or non religious kriskrams?

[ComradeMan]

Are you religious or non religious kriskrams?

He's our "pastoral" revleft Rabbi, kabbalist and authority on halakha! ;)

[hatzel]

I've got the big G on my side, so to speak :thumbup:

[ComradeMan]

I've got the big G on my side, so to speak :thumbup:



Booooo, Rabbinic Judaism! What a Litvak, slide over here to the neo-Hasidic corner, bro :thumbup1:

ALSO: welcome to OI, hope you have a nice stay!


Neo-Pharisee?

Neo-Essene?

Ebionite?

[American Assasin]

I am not familiar with those terms.

[American Assasin]

I have a set of Kitzur Shulchan Aruch besides me, and a few other good seforim throughout the house.

[hatzel]

Neo-Pharisee?

In some respects, as I'm not one for the priesthood and upper echelons of society. They were a good popular movement, that alone reflects my ideas pretty well...


Neo-Essene?


Only as far as they were good mystics and had strong communal ideas. I don't shun marriage and all that, though, let's not get carried away!


Ebionite?


Sorry, Jesus isn't my homeboy :laugh:

[American Assasin]

Ever learnt the talmud?

[Manic Impressive]

So you guys thinkyou know something about music? Let's see--take the test.

You have to register, but it's pretty interesting --and pretty demanding.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/labuk/experiments/musicality/

I did it you're right it was quite demanding, I thought I'd got all the tests wrong but ended up doing pretty well.

Enthusiasm for Music 3% :laugh:
Musical Perception 98% :cool:
Emotional connection 5% :sneaky:
Social creativity 14% :blushing:
Musical Curiosity 49% :mad:

[hatzel]

With love from Finland

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I would have put this somewhere else on the boards, but as she sings 'revoluuuuution, oooooh no', I assumed it was reactionary, so it deserves to be here...

[ComradeMan]

Sorry, Jesus isn't my homeboy :laugh:

Strange- I'd think you had more in common than you might think.
;)

[hatzel]

Strange- I'd think you had more in common than you might think.
;)

He wasn't the Messiah, but he wasn't a very naughty boy, either :laugh:

I appreciate the Sermon on the Mount, so even if just for that...he can be classed as a noble teacher...even though somewhat misguided if he ever claimed to be the Messiah. I'm not sure if I even believe that he did, these claims may have just been attributed to him at a later date by somebody else...I dunno...

[ComradeMan]

He wasn't the Messiah, but he wasn't a very naughty boy, either :laugh:

I appreciate the Sermon on the Mount, so even if just for that...he can be classed as a noble teacher...even though somewhat misguided if he ever claimed to be the Messiah. I'm not sure if I even believe that he did, these claims may have just been attributed to him at a later date by somebody else...I dunno...

I don't think Jesus/Yeshua ever actually said "I am the Messiah"- so it's a problematic discussion. Jesus was a 1st century Jew, I don't think he would have been un-kosher. But this is history..... :( and a sad one at that in many senses.

[Robert]

IF CAPITALISM IS SO BAD, HOW COME MY T-BONE STEAK WAS SO GOOD LAST NIGHT?

That's right, my friends, I cooked myself a T-Bone and ate it last night. If you have quality meat, the simplest way to cook it is to heat some oil very hot in a skillet or dutch oven (high walls of the Dutch oven keep the oil from splattering all over the kitchen.) Salt and pepper the steak and put it in there for about 2-4 minutes per side depending on thickness and how you like it cooked. Throw some chopped or sliced onions in there too and they cook right alongside each other. Mine was very thin so it cooked in about 3 minutes.

Grilling is great but it's simpler to fry, plus you get to stir those onions around with the meat.

Which is why I am AGAINST revolution.

I hope I don't get an infraction for saying "Dutch."

[hatzel]

Luckily for you, I do believe that steak will still exist after the revolution :lol:

[Robert]

Right on, comrade!

Of course, there will be limited supplies of prime rib, and it will all be directed to the vanguard, which needs high quality protein to keep the revolution on track for the benefit of the lumpen.

Let's just say I'm makin' plans.:cool:

[Ele'ill]

http://nextround.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/photobomb18.jpg

[Ele'ill]

http://www.bannedinhollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/epic_photobomb-1.jpg

[Frosty Weasel]

Luckily for you, I do believe that steak will still exist after the revolution :lol: Not according to the Primmies I've been talking to :(

[Ele'ill]

http://topcultureddfggafgfgdfnt/uploads/20gfgotobomb.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

The family Friday Night movie--Failure to Launch. WAY to barf bag girlie for me.

I may be forced to spend the evening with you Commies.

[hatzel]

Only the commies? :(

[Bud Struggle]

Only the commies? :(

You are my homies. I post on a couple other sites, but they agree with me on a lot of stuff. I'm a Capitalists--I THRIVE on adversity.

;) :D

[Bud Struggle]

He wasn't the Messiah,

Pshaw! You guys just missed the boat and you are too proud to admit it. :)

[hatzel]

Pshaw! You guys just missed the boat and you are too proud to admit it. :)

Pride? No no, I think not...if you really want to get the Jews on board, you'll have to (re?)introduce the ban on handling money on the Sabbath, ergo no more collection plates :laugh:

[Bud Struggle]

pride? No no, i think not...if you really want to get the jews on board, you'll have to (re?)introduce the ban on handling money on the sabbath, ergo no more collection plates :laugh:

:lol::lol::lol:

[hatzel]

I hope such comments don't get me restricted :blushing:

[Ele'ill]

I have not posted this one yet

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[Frosty Weasel]

I hope such comments don't get me restricted :blushing: Oh don't. Racism against yourself is just as funny as that Polish Neo-Nazi who found out he (and coincidentally his wife) had Jewish heritage, lol.

[Bud Struggle]

I hope such comments don't get me restricted :blushing:

Consider yourself one of us anyway!

[Ele'ill]

Nevermind- it's pretty bad.


What of leftist stand up- where's that video of that guy ripping into that fascist organization

[L.A.P.]

The family Friday Night movie--Failure to Launch. WAY to barf bag girlie for me.

I may be forced to spend the evening with you Commies.

I've always wondered, has does your family (that's assuming you have a wife and kids) feel about you spending a pretty fair amount of time on a communist forum?

[Lt. Ferret]

my wife is a minarchist and she's fine with it.

[Ele'ill]

I think this video here is the best example on the internet of someone not walking away from a bad situation. There is blood on the walls, on the couch, everywhere.

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[L.A.P.]

my wife is a minarchist and she's fine with it.

I'm not really asking so much as that as don't they sometimes say "Honey, quit talking to teenagers on that fucking commie website and come eat dinner."?

My friends even do that to me.

[Lt. Ferret]

your friends are jerks. my wife is busy doing studio photography right now. im left to my own devices.

[#FF0000]

oh hey guys it's lenin's birthday. happy bday lenin

[Ele'ill]

your friends are jerks. my wife is busy doing studio photography right now. im left to my own devices.

No, your friends are jerks

[Ele'ill]

Sarah Palin is happy, rich, and is married to a good looking guy.

I don't personally find Todd good looking because I'm all man, but never mind that ... this is all bound to generate bitterness among sizable portions of the chronically unhappy elements of our population.

What?

[#FF0000]

Sarah Palin is happy, rich, and is married to a good looking guy.

I don't personally find Todd good looking because I'm all man, but never mind that ... this is all bound to generate bitterness among sizable portions of the chronically unhappy elements of our population.

That isn't why people don't like her though.

[kahimikarie]

no, it's the day lenin died.

[#FF0000]

Oh.

RIP lenin. I was snowed in and couldn't get a 40 today anyway.

[Robert]

It's Palin's fault Lenin died.

Most people who hate Palin do so because she comes across as a combination of a "glad ass" and a cocky, over-confident know-it-all who doesn't know, or doesn't care, that she isn't prepared to occupy a national office. There are others who are jealous.

And there is another tranche that hates her because they are just hateful people.

Like most people on Revleft.

[#FF0000]

No it's because she is one of those people who takes criticism and acts like it's persecution. Don't be silly, Robert.

[Ele'ill]

I like this video.

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[Robert]

Isn't this supposed to be the light-hearted chatter thread? :(

But if you want to get all serious about Sarah Palin, liberal antipathy toward her long pre-dates these "persecution complex" charges that evolved from the -- so far un-proved -- claim that she is responsible for the Arizona murders.

But it really doesn't matter. I don't think she isn't even going to run for president, never mind get elected. She just likes being in the public eye for some reason.

Sarah Palin is less interesting than the fear and loathing she generates. Which is itself ... not interesting.

[#FF0000]

oh. i should have known you were joking.

but yeah people hate her because she's an easy target. Same with Nickelback.

[Robert]

I actually don't remember when I was joking and when not, but I really do think I know why she is hated, and it's deeper than this recent "persecution" business.

I'm just pissed off that I didn't catch that Frosty Snowman guy who says he's a Misean in Palestine doing a research project. He and I had a brief exchange about Miseans in the learning thread, and he wrote something in one post that sounded odd. I should have smelled a rat. I can smell a rat, you know.

Cause I've lived among the rat. Lived like the rat, hunted with the rat, hunted the rat, been hunted by the rat, become one with the rat, eaten the rat. I know my rats.

And Snooki is now a NYT's best selling author.

[#FF0000]

Being a NYT Bestelling author doesn't mean much.

[Robert]

In this case, it means another nail in my country's culture's coffin. I'll bet those last three words in that sentence have never been strong together that way. Ever i history. I should be a NYT best selling author.

I'm going to write a book about Revleft.

I shall entitle it: Red Like Me.

[Robert]

And why in the hell are you up at 1:15 A.M.?

[#FF0000]

I'm always up at 1:15 AM. I'm usually up until 4 AM

[Robert]

I met a married couple today, 23 and 25 years old. They are hopelessly in love, hang on each other's every word and all that. Mutually supportive, real poor, but super happy. They have 5 kids already.

It reminds me of that story about Groucho Marx and his cigar.

[#FF0000]

When it gets warmer I want to head out and do some urban exploration again. I just told someone the story of the farmhouse we went to with the coyotes and the feral cat and now I miss it.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I got a parking ticket at 5 am yeasterday for parking in front of a fire hydrant that was completely buried in snow.

Fuck the northeast.

[ComradeMan]

Well yesterday was the 90th anniversary of the founding ot the Communist Party of Italy- there were lots of conferences and meetings with representatives of the heirs of the that party, mostly the Rifondazione Comunista and Partito dei Comunisti Italiani- where I went people were just shouting at each other and accusing people of being traitors to the cause.... I did think of you guys!!!!

[Havet]

Watch this

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[Revolution starts with U]

I don't think Jesus/Yeshua ever actually said "I am the Messiah"- so it's a problematic discussion. Jesus was a 1st century Jew, I don't think he would have been un-kosher. But this is history..... :( and a sad one at that in many senses.
Interestingly enough, it is only in John, when asked by the high priests whether he is the messiah does he say "it is so." In the other gospels he replies "you say it is so."
But...
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%204:25-26&version=NIV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2016:15-17&version=NIV
http://www.rationalchristianity.net/jesus_claim.html
I used to like to think Jesus was trying to tell us we are all divine (the walking on water story was a clear example to me)... and sometimes still do.
But after further research, I'm not so sure. I think I just glanced over the passages I didn't want to see.



IF CAPITALISM IS SO BAD, HOW COME MY T-BONE STEAK WAS SO GOOD LAST NIGHT?

Heatlh and safety laws, and agricultural subsidies, brought into action by the tireless work of socialists?


Well yesterday was the 90th anniversary of the founding ot the Communist Party of Italy- there were lots of conferences and meetings with representatives of the heirs of the that party, mostly the Rifondazione Comunista and Partito dei Comunisti Italiani- where I went people were just shouting at each other and accusing people of being traitors to the cause.... I did think of you guys!!!!
See, the left is one big homogenous blok, constatnly at war with itself. :lol:

[ComradeMan]

IF CAPITALISM IS SO BAD, HOW COME MY T-BONE STEAK WAS SO GOOD LAST NIGHT?

That's right, my friends, I cooked myself a T-Bone and ate it last night. If you have quality meat, the simplest way to cook it is to heat some oil very hot in a skillet or dutch oven (high walls of the Dutch oven keep the oil from splattering all over the kitchen.) Salt and pepper the steak and put it in there for about 2-4 minutes per side depending on thickness and how you like it cooked. Throw some chopped or sliced onions in there too and they cook right alongside each other. Mine was very thin so it cooked in about 3 minutes.

Grilling is great but it's simpler to fry, plus you get to stir those onions around with the meat.

Which is why I am AGAINST revolution.

I hope I don't get an infraction for saying "Dutch."

That's probably the worst way to cook a steak and the most potentially carcinogenic.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

That's probably the worst way to cook a steak and the most potentially carcinogenic.

Oh, boo-hoo. "OMG it might be carcinogenic!!1!111!!one!!1!" is such a lame and pathetic reason to avoid something. Personally I consider myself lucky to have been born in an era where I'd even have a chance to grow old enough to die of cancer.

But then again, I don't share the obsession that Daily Mail journalists (http://kill-or-cure.heroku.com/) and seemingly the rest of the affluent world in general have with cancer and it's prevention thereof through lifestyle choices. I like my genuinely smoked food products too much to worry about silly things like that.

[Robert]

Well, no need to argue. It was my steak.

Out of curiosity Noxion, do the Brits have the "T bone"? I know you have beef cows, or beeves :lol:, but it's a matter of butchery. I NEVER saw a T bone in France for example. I'm sure it was there in some other form.

This is what I'm talking about

well, where is my stupid image? It don't work!

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxHWu9WFDy7Fc2YMKhGl1JIVT-7j6cAhBOYGrv5z9J4bEAmop3





Comrademan, I knew my method would meet with disapproval, but seriously you should have tasted it!

[Robert]

I got a parking ticket at 5 am yesterday for parking in front of a fire hydrant that was completely buried in snow.


Shake the snow off and read it. Maybe you won a "good parking" award. Cops do that now and then.

[L.A.P.]

your friends are jerks..

Don't you judge my friends you bastard!

[Jazzratt]

Out of curiosity Noxion, do the Brits have the "T bone"? I know you have beef cows, or beeves :lol:, but it's a matter of butchery. I NEVER saw a T bone in France for example. I'm sure it was there in some other form. We do indeed, I'm surprised butchery varies that much country to country though.

For some reason the kebab shop near me does them, I don't think I've ever seen or met anyone that has seen someone order one there though.

[Robert]

Not found in France


I've often been intrigued by the absence, in France, of certain foodstuffs that are popular in the English-speaking world. A striking example is the cut of meat known (in my native Australia) as a T-bone steak. In France, there's another missing meat product: bacon, as served up with eggs for breakfast. The French do indeed eat a pork product referred to as bacon, but it's not exactly the genuine stuff.

http://skyvington.blogspot.com/2010/09/not-found-in-france.html

I think they must have T-bones in France, but the super rich buy them all up from the butchers and have them sent to places like this:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7N4Nc31P3sOymFX4hFFxC3ykbvcrgp tbLzcuTfR90Js5mz5d3tQ

I guess I can understand how a poor young French guy could turn commie seeing something like that. Not that it would help him any.:(

[hatzel]

Interestingly enough, it is only in John, when asked by the high priests whether he is the messiah does he say "it is so." In the other gospels he replies "you say it is so."

Oh, I know the Gospel of John. Wasn't that the really late, kind of Jew-hating 'BAR KOKHBA ISN'T THE FUCKING MESSIAH (also please don't kill us, Mr Romans, we're not Jews, promise...)' gospel? Yeeeeeah! I'll pin my understanding of historical Jesus on a somewhat earlier account. Matthew for the win! :thumbup1:

[Revolution starts with U]

Ya. But even Matthew has it's moments. Read the links I provided.

[Ele'ill]

I like how the kebab shop comes up frequently in conversation.

[Bud Struggle]

Here's Florida's new Attorney General Pam Bondi. I just saw here on some Florida government channel and I thought she looked like Britany Spears. She may be giving Sara Palin some competition in the Conservative Republican Woman category in a couple of years.

http://media.naplesnews.com/media/img/photos/2010/11/03/SP_330092_ZUPP_Bondi_4_t607.jpg

[#FF0000]

She does look a lot like Britney Spears. :mellow:

The name of this Reactionary Chatter thread reminds me of a Black Keys album called Magic Potion, which makes me think of this song.

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[ComradeMan]

Oh, boo-hoo. "OMG it might be carcinogenic!!1!111!!one!!1!" is such a lame and pathetic reason to avoid something. Personally I consider myself lucky to have been born in an era where I'd even have a chance to grow old enough to die of cancer..

Well recent comments by the medical profession suggest that 30% of cancers may be due to meat consumption added to which frying with extremely hot oil is a very bad idea.

Added to which, meat already contains enough fat in itself that you don't really need to fry in oil. However by frying you don't lose the fat that may burn too and ruin the taste.

Slow grilled is best in order to lose the excess fat and avoid burning, however you shouldn't char it either.

BTW- why the fuck would I want to read some British newspaper's food column.... LOL!!!


But then again, I don't share the obsession that Daily Mail journalists (http://kill-or-cure.heroku.com/) and seemingly the rest of the affluent world in general have with cancer and it's prevention thereof through lifestyle choices.

But then again, when you've seen three members of your family die before their time through a horrible and degrading illness and one person is very ill at the moment then you might not be such a condescending shithead to people who may be concerned about these things.


Well, no need to argue. It was my steak.

Out of curiosity Noxion, do the Brits have the "T bone"? I know you have beef cows, or beeves :lol:, but it's a matter of butchery. I NEVER saw a T bone in France for example. I'm sure it was there in some other form.
Comrademan, I knew my method would meet with disapproval, but seriously you should have tasted it!

In Italy it's basically known as "fiorentina"- i.e. a "Florence" steak.

[#FF0000]

Man it gets lonely when classes start up again.

[hatzel]

Nostalgia time for me:

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...actually I don't think many non-Swedes are going to get all that nostalgic about that one...:( The text is nice, though, trust me!

[Ele'ill]

Why are there people standing next to the house

[StockholmSyndrome]

I wish I could be in class right now. Graduating sucks.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Shake the snow off and read it. Maybe you won a "good parking" award. Cops do that now and then.

No, definitely not. More on the lines of "You have 15 days to give us $60 or we're gonna come arrest you."

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Well recent comments by the medical profession suggest that 30% of cancers may be due to meat consumption added to which frying with extremely hot oil is a very bad idea.

90% of statistics are made up on the spot, including this one.


Added to which, meat already contains enough fat in itself that you don't really need to fry in oil. However by frying you don't lose the fat that may burn too and ruin the taste.

Slow grilled is best in order to lose the excess fat and avoid burning, however you shouldn't char it either.

I consider that a matter of taste. I like to be able to shatter my bacon with a fork, but one of my friends prefers his bacon floppy. To each their own.


But then again, when you've seen three members of your family die before their time through a horrible and degrading illness and one person is very ill at the moment then you might not be such a condescending shithead to people who may be concerned about these things.

Don't see how that licences you to give out advice to people whose risk factors you cannot possibly be aware of. For all you know, Robert could be an physically active non-smoker who eats plenty of fruit and veg, and hence be at a low risk of cancer anyway.

If Robert had instead said that he was going rock climbing, would you have been so willing to clutch your throat and mention, in boldface type, the potential dangers of such an activity, including broken bones, paralysis, and death?

[ComradeMan]

90% of statistics are made up on the spot, including this one.

Secondo l’Organizzazione Mondiale della Sanità il 30-40 per cento di tutti i tumori potrebbero essere evitati-
http://www.mednat.org/alimentazione/carne_cancro.htm
http://www.agireora.org/info/news_dett.php?id=384

(l’Organizzazione Mondiale della Sanità- Word Health Organisation-)

The World Health Organization has determined that dietary factors account for at least 30 percent of all cancers in Western countries and up to 20 percent in developing countries. When cancer researchers started to search for links between diet and cancer, one of the most noticeable findings was that people who avoided meat were much less likely to develop the disease. Large studies in England and Germany showed that vegetarians were about 40 percent less likely to develop cancer compared to meat eaters.
http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/facts/meat.php

Read the rest of the article(s)


I consider that a matter of taste. I like to be able to shatter my bacon with a fork, but one of my friends prefers his bacon floppy. To each their own..

Well you could eat shit and call that a matter of taste too...


Don't see how that licences you to give out advice to people whose risk factors you cannot possibly be aware of. For all you know, Robert could be an physically active non-smoker who eats plenty of fruit and veg, and hence be at a low risk of cancer anyway.

I wasn't quoting that as some kind of "licence" or "right to speak"- what a childhish analysis. Robert is free to cook what he wants how he wants, but seeing as quite often we discuss food and recipes here, quite often we talk about the best and/or recommended preparation methods. Derp.

On a second point, your "boo hoo" comments and such provoked the response you received.


If Robert had instead said that he was going rock climbing, would you have been so willing to clutch your throat and mention, in boldface type, the potential dangers of such an activity, including broken bones, paralysis, and death?

If Robert were going rockclimbing it's far more likely that he would be aware of the dangers and/or potential pitfalls whereas with these issues people seem to be unaware or oblivious a lot of the time.

Now, you have blitzed into the conversation being smug, mildly offensive and accusing people of lying- when they aren't and they can back up their claims.

Think- then type your answer.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Secondo l’Organizzazione Mondiale della Sanità il 30-40 per cento di tutti i tumori potrebbero essere evitati-
http://www.mednat.org/alimentazione/carne_cancro.htm
http://www.agireora.org/info/news_dett.php?id=384

(l’Organizzazione Mondiale della Sanità- Word Health Organisation-)

The World Health Organization has determined that dietary factors account for at least 30 percent of all cancers in Western countries and up to 20 percent in developing countries. When cancer researchers started to search for links between diet and cancer, one of the most noticeable findings was that people who avoided meat were much less likely to develop the disease. Large studies in England and Germany showed that vegetarians were about 40 percent less likely to develop cancer compared to meat eaters.
http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/facts/meat.php

Read the rest of the article(s)

Why didn't you post this first time round? Did you seriously expect to be able to just spout a percentage and then assume I'd take your word for it?

Of course, it's all very well saying that vegetarians are less likely to develop cancer, but what about other variables? Someone who goes to the trouble of excluding meat from their diet is also less likely to smoke (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HI5kEhBBphcC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=vegetarians+smoke+less&source=bl&ots=rt4v61rXRY&sig=RO07V39Q3TiYhMUIPHMXk76cElo&hl=en&ei=Nxc8TfrDO4GHhQflnaHJCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=vegetarians%20smoke%20less&f=false), likely to drink less, and tend to take better care of their health in general.


Well you could eat shit and call that a matter of taste too...

"lol u eat shit" - Now who's being condescending? :rolleyes:


I wasn't quoting that as some kind of "licence" or "right to speak"- what a childhish analysis. Robert is free to cook what he wants how he wants, but seeing as quite often we discuss food and recipes here, quite often we talk about the best and/or recommended preparation methods. Derp.

Discussing recipes is not the same thing as playing dietician over the internet.


On a second point, your "boo hoo" comments and such provoked the response you received.

If you thought it was a troll, why did you reply?


If Robert were going rockclimbing it's far more likely that he would be aware of the dangers and/or potential pitfalls whereas with these issues people seem to be unaware or oblivious a lot of the time.

Are you kidding? As illustrated with a link in an earlier post, the media bombards us with a panoply of cancer-related scare-stories.


Now, you have blitzed into the conversation being smug, mildly offensive and accusing people of lying- when they aren't and they can back up their claims.

Think- then type your answer.

Not as offensive as your attempt to use your dead/dying relatives to win an argument. Quite aside from being a fallacious appeal to emotion, I'm mildly perturbed that you seem so willing to use your nearest and dearest in such a fashion.

[Bud Struggle]

Well Ok then! How about some beer? :D

http://www.sudsgear.com/productimages/hbrw-hebrew/hats-glasses-other/newhebrewpintsexample-l.jpg

[ComradeMan]

@NoXion

Point 1- Because it's chatter.... not a thread on the subject.

Point 2- Yes, but we weren't talking about that, were we?

Point 3- I didn't say that though did I champ?

Point 4- So discussing recipes and food does not normally entail the best preparation methods with a view to enjoyment, health and nutrition? Yeah... right.

Point 5- I didn't say it was a troll- crass, probably.

Point 6- The use of the expression "scare-story" says it all. Re the earlier post, I presume the radio waves thing, well the sum total of your discussion was to accept the mainstream view despite other evidence, refuse outright to consider any other possibilities and reject anything that might challenge a position you hold. How very unscientific.

Point 7- Don't even try and twist this round to such a crass and low position. Cancer is something that effects a lot of people, myself included viz my family, and is something that a lot of people are concerned about- connected to all kinds of things that are also issues here at RevLeft. Your crass and insensitive comments that basically accused me of "making things up" coupled with your overbearing arrogance in what was basically a harmless comment on a fucking cooking method led me to point out your insensitivity.

No one was trying to win an argument, this reveals more about your approach to discussion here, it makes no difference to me fundamentally and I don't see things as "winning" or "losing" all the time. Quite frankly the over-competitiveness about such things here at RevLeft and all this bullshit about who "pwned" who in arguments etc etc all the fucking time is quite childish.

[Bud Struggle]

Me and the Missus are cooking a turkey the Julia and Jocques way today.

Afdh_i3Kmy0

[ComradeMan]

Whenever I've had turkey it's always been very dry...

What's the secret? Is it using butter as an American woman once told me?

[Lt. Ferret]

this rotation is killing me. directing 80 soldiers, 20 afghan nationals, providing food, water, and fuel to the town, dealing with the rotational training units, and even providing care for a pen full of goats and a donkey. 12 hour days minimum, for 21 days straight. it was saturday night last night and i came home at 7:30 and went straight to sleep. fuck.

[Robert]

I owe you about 30 kegs of beer when you finish, Lt. Take care of yourself and the goats.

Oh, and the troops too.:blushing:

[Bud Struggle]

I owe you about 30 kegs of beer when you finish, Lt. Take care of yourself and the goats.

Oh, and the troops too.:blushing:

Add my 30 kegs on to Robert's. :thumbup:

[Robert]

Pssst ... guys ... mari the mod's not around. Heh.

I wanna say something really, really bad. Cause when the cat's away, the rat will play! And I'm a dirty rat.

Um ... one of you guys go first ... she may be waiting just offshore like one of those great white sharks waiting for an overconfident seal. :mellow:

[Bud Struggle]

Whenever I've had turkey it's always been very dry...

What's the secret? Is it using butter as an American woman once told me?

That could be because it is a frozen turkey. If they are frozen once and then thawed they are fine, but sometimes in tansit they thaw and then are refrozen--they woll always dry out the meat.

[Robert]

I actually think it's lack of liquid in the cooking.If you stuff with onions and celery and apple, and put a half cup of chicken broth in bottom of pan, the steam should keep it moist. Also you can turn it breast down for a half hour. This browns the back of the bird and moistens the breast.

Then you slice the breast thinly and fry it in extremely hot oil with some onions to bring out the taste. :mellow:

[Ele'ill]

Lt. Ferret had problems with alcohol. I don't think kegs are appropriate.

[#FF0000]

Kegs of sparkling grape juice, mari3l.

[Bud Struggle]

I actually think it's lack of liquid in the cooking.If you stuff with onions and celery and apple, and put a half cup of chicken broth in bottom of pan, the steam should keep it moist. Also you can turn it breast down for a half hour. This browns the back of the bird and moistens the breast.

Then you slice the breast thinly and fry it in extremely hot oil with some onions to bring out the taste. :mellow:

I have never heard of frying the turkey in hot oil. Gunna have to try it! You know BY FAR (well except for Cormade Man--and he's restricted) Capitalist have a lot better recipies than Communists.

[Che a chara]

The 'Pack look as if they're going to the Bowl .....

[Bud Struggle]

The 'Pack look as if they're going to the Bowl .....

If you don't mind me asking--as you Irish or Irish-American?

[Che a chara]

If you don't mind me asking--as you Irish or Irish-American?

Straight up Irish just :D

[Robert]

I have never heard of frying the turkey in hot oil. Gunna have to try it!No! Don't do that.

Tally: no beer, no fried steak, no jokes.

I'm back in Catholic grammar school.

[Bud Struggle]

No! Don't do that.

Tally: no beer, no fried steak, no jokes.

I am against communism. And no good recipies. Though I do have a GREAT recipe for borsht from the SU that I haven't seen in years. :(

[Robert]

I don't think kegs are appropriate.

NoXion, that's your cue. :cool:

[Ele'ill]

NoXion, that's your cue. :cool:

I wouldn't offer alcohol to someone who has health problems because of it. It was a nice gesture though.

[hatzel]

You know BY FAR (well except for Cormade Man--and he's restricted) Capitalist have a lot better recipies than Communists.

Just because I haven't been whipping out my recipes that much. Mainly because I don't have recipes, I work by the eye...still, my dinner parties are legendary...legendary!!! I'll invite you all over for a reactionary food-fest some time...

[Robert]

Do you call mushroom caps ...

mushroom coms at those commie dinner par-tays?

[Robert]

You comsters and inmates will have to do without my wit and wisdom for a while. I'll be watching Downton Abbey (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/) tonight and cultivating my upper class British accent.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-zLsVYZBG-7SedtKmCtYBNd8iGJKU056PrRVOZNL_tJ3RvKMS

I wonder why a dramatic series about the upper classes (and brother, do I mean upper) is such a smash hit in the UK?

[#FF0000]

So, I had to take out a student loan for the first time ever (for some reason I'm not getting enough in grants to cover my tuition even though I always used to) and now I am terrified at the prospect of having to pay it back one day. :mellow:

[Robert]

Surely it's a low interest loan, not that I'm asking.

I thought you said you were in special ed and just needed some formalities to get certified and on your way (?)

Good luck.

[#FF0000]

I needed to handle some formalities before I could observe classes or student teach or work as a paraprofessional. I still have another year before I am a real teacher.

fjkasdnfjka I can't wait now. I'm gonna be going on a student-teaching trip thing next year to get experience in an urban environment which is baller to have on a resume.

And yeah, it's a government subsidized loan, and it's not even for a huge amount.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

It was -14 f when I got off, -16 when I got home. The coolant in my car froze, despite being antifreeze, so my heat didn't work. I was literally in pain when I got home from the cold.

Fuck the northeast. The only thing that keeps me going in this god forsaken wasteland that is upstate NY is that in a few weeks I'm gonna be drinking a cold one in Pearl Harbor. Hopefully.

[ComradeMan]

Of course rep is insignificant for the Golden Che winner....

:lol:

You know BY FAR (well except for Cormade Man--and he's restricted) Capitalist have a lot better recipies than Communists.

Grazie!!! ;)

LOL!!!

Afterall tomatoes are red and where would we be without them!!!

[Bud Struggle]

You comsters and inmates will have to do without my wit and wisdom for a while. I'll be watching Downton Abbey (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/) tonight and cultivating my upper class British accent.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-zLsVYZBG-7SedtKmCtYBNd8iGJKU056PrRVOZNL_tJ3RvKMS

I wonder why a dramatic series about the upper classes (and brother, do I mean upper) is such a smash hit in the UK?

I watched it, too. And they seem to have a SOCIALIST fidgeting about in the show this episode! For all their complaining the British really love the class system. Just so long as they can peek in on them now and then like in this show and Brideshead Revisited and Upstairs Downstairs.

It really is one great freakin' life being an Earl. I suppose I'd have to give up my Golden Che is if became one. :(

I personally always liked the aristocracy. In the Sound of Music where Captain Von Trapp has a choice between Julie Andrews and the slinkey "Baroness"--man if I were him I would have hopped on that Baroness every time! :) It would have make for a completely different movie though. :D

[ComradeMan]

I watched it, too. And they seem to have a SOCIALIST fidgeting about in the show this episode! For all their complaining the British really love the class system. Just so long as they can peek in on them now and then like in this show and Brideshead Revisited and Upstairs Downstairs.

It really is one great freakin' life being an Earl. I suppose I'd have to give up my Golden Che is if became one. :(

Pah!

What's the fist thing an average so-called proletarian does when they win the lotto? Become a football star or have some success? They buy a castle in the country and become pseudo-aristocrats.

[hatzel]

A quick FYI: despite what some Yankee Doodle Dandies might want to believe, Downton Abbey isn't a particularly accurate representation of everyday British life. That is all.

[ComradeMan]

A quick FYI: despite what some Yankee Doodle Dandies might want to believe, Downton Abbey isn't a particularly accurate representation of everyday British life. That is all.


Come on.... next you'll be saying that Dick Van Dyke was not a genuine Londoner!!! ;)

:lol:

c2fMlg5WTMM

[Robert]

"A quick FYI: despite what some Yankee Doodle Dandies might want to believe, Downton Abbey isn't a particularly accurate representation of everyday British life."

How dare you, olde boy?

It's set before WWI, so I'm glad there's been progress, but I'll bet it's close to the way things were. What I really like about the series is that it presents the humanity -- good and bad -- in representatives of all classes. There is that odious footman, for example, and it just occurs to me he's both bad and gay. I can't remember the last american film I saw where the gay guy is a villain. That scene where the dower dowager gives the rose cup to the little gardener was lifted from a 40's movie with Greer GarGarson, but I can't remember the name.

Well, must dash, lady and gentlemen. The valet reminds me that. I have polo practice in a bit. Cheery bye, now.

[hatzel]

...I actually never bothered watching Downton Abbey, as I'm not really a fan of costume dramas, so I have literally no idea what you're talking about :confused:

[ComradeMan]

Dick Van Dyke doesn't talk like Robert's parody---- what's going on? Perhaps Krims can give us some genuine London language....

I remember it sounded like they said Laandan and "awroit" all the time...
:blushing:

[Bud Struggle]

...I actually never bothered watching Downton Abbey, as I'm not really a fan of costume dramas, so I have literally no idea what you're talking about :confused:

Well, you don't need to watch the show. Living in England all you have to do is drive out to the country, knock on the door of the statley home of the local Earl or Duke, invite youself in for the weekend and watch the shenannigans go on!

:)

[ComradeMan]

Well, you don't need to watch the show. Living in England all you have to do is drive out to the country, knock on the door of the statley home of the local Earl or Duke, invite youself in for the weekend and watch the shenannigans go on!

:)

I don't know about the English countryside to be honest, full of murderers judging by Agatha Christie et al.
:lol:

The sort of place the priest will kill you and the butler will look the other way.

[Havet]

Hey guys and gals, TVs found out about trolling (http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/01/20/tv-news-discovers-trolling)!

:laugh:muhaahahahaha :laugh:

seriously, someone should have sent them a fax years ago! :lol:

[Bud Struggle]

I don't know about the English countryside to be honest, full of murderers judging by Agatha Christie et al.
:lol:

The sort of place the priest will kill you and the butler will look the other way.

What about Italy? You have you share of languid Countessas and over ripe Duchessas. I know all about it--I've read the Charterhouse of Parma. :D

Seriously, if my Neopolitain Countessa and I do move to Sicily we would like to buy one of their castilos and live EXACTLY like them (only with modern plumbing--and we would be better Catholics.)

[hatzel]

Dick Van Dyke doesn't talk like Robert's parody---- what's going on? Perhaps Krims can give us some genuine London language....

I remember it sounded like they said Laandan and "awroit" all the time...
:blushing:

Here's some London comedy stylings for you all, so that you can admire the accent...

1W45t3kTXHM

DAAAAAN SAAAAAF!!!

EDIT: notice the English idea of the class system...

[Robert]

The sort of place the priest will kill you and the butler will look the other way.

Sounds like a story! I like it. Plus, there's worse ways to go.

[Havet]

Wow, apparently some people (http://straightjacking.blogspot.com/2011/01/flexible-gracie-glam.html) like to "review" internet porn videos now. It's a funny and interesting post though (and apparently safe for work as well). Here's a small quote:


"Folks, what the fuck happened? Pornography used to be such a beautiful art, with its kinkiness and open-mindness about new tactics and positions. Sure, it was the 70's, 80's and 90's, and yeah, they still didn't shave the pubic hair, but it was all about mutual pleasure. And that's what made it special. It felt real. It felt like something that could really happen. Something that you could watch with your partner and enhance your relationship, or something that you knew could happen with you in the future."

..."But no, we abandoned it all for petty aggressiveness and throat grabbing"....

[Bud Struggle]

Here's a small quote:

You could day the same about Communism. ;)

[Ele'ill]

You could day the same about Communism. ;)

How?

[Ele'ill]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41235743/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41235743/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Well, I guess we can expect more shootings, both by and of cops:


Noting the Oregon and Indiana shootings occurred during so-called "routine traffic stops," Roberts said, "The word routine should be eliminated from the job. There's no such thing. There is only 'known risk' and 'unknown risk' " he said.

You hear that? We're now guilty until proven innocent, an "unknown risk". It's not like the cops particularly trusted citizens in the first place (unless that citizen is a rich white male).

[Lt. Ferret]

cry about it, cops get shot all the time over "routine" traffic stops.

[#FF0000]

cry about it, cops get shot all the time over "routine" traffic stops.

Good. :mellow:

[Lt. Ferret]

:rolleyes: Should be the other way around, amirite?

[#FF0000]

You mean cops shooting regular people? Been like that for about 200 years now.

[Lt. Ferret]

The system works.

[#FF0000]

So I found out that because I'm gonna be a teacher I get all sorts of neat things that make it so I have a lot of leniency when it comes to paying off student loans.

I am still certain that I will never, ever pay my loans back.

[Lt. Ferret]

im getting like 3800 dollars back in my tax return. fucking awesome.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Here is the status of the police shooting investigations on Monday:

Indianapolis police say they arrested Thomas Hardy in the shooting of Officer David Moore, who was shot in the face and body and remained in a coma.
A manhunt continued in the Oregon beach town of Waldport for a gunman who shot officer Steven Dodds, 45, a six-year veteran of the Lincoln City Police Department. Police were looking for the owner of a 1984 Dodge truck that fled the shooting scene.
In Detroit, four officers shot inside their precinct were recovering, police said. Investigators said Lamar Moore, 38, of Detroit entered the 6th Precinct on the city's northwest side about 4:30 p.m. Sunday and shot Cmdr. Brian Davis, Officer David Anderson; Sgt. Ray Saati; and Sgt. Carrie Schulz. Officers returned fire and killed Moore, who was scheduled to be sentenced Monday for his role in a double homicide, they said.
One of two deputies wounded in Port Orchard, Wash., was released from the hospital while another remained in satisfactory condition after being wounded Sunday in a gunfight. A suspect and a female victim who came running to his aid were killed. Police were investigating how the female victim was shot. The gunman was identified as Anthony A. Martinez, 31, of Salt Lake City. The Deseret News said police had issued an endangered persons advisory for a 13-year-old runaway believed to be traveling with Martinez.
In St. Petersburg, Fla., a suspected gunman was found dead after two police officers were shot to death and a U.S. marshal was injured as they tried to make an arrest. Suncoast Benevolent Association President Mark Marland identified the fallen officers as Tom Baitinger and Jeffrey Yaslowitz.
In Miami, thousands of law enforcement officers gathered at a funeral service in American Airlines Arena to honor Roger Castillo, 41, Amanda Haworth, 44, who were killed on Thursday while serving a warrant on a suspected killer. The suspect, 22-year-old Johnny Simms, was killed by another officer.
America. Fuck yeah.

(from mariels link)

[ComradeMan]

What about Italy? You have you share of languid Countessas and over ripe Duchessas. I know all about it--I've read the Charterhouse of Parma. :D

Seriously, if my Neopolitain Countessa and I do move to Sicily we would like to buy one of their castilos and live EXACTLY like them (only with modern plumbing--and we would be better Catholics.)

Ah well.... in Italy we'd have to poison you like the Borgia or the Medici...etc- and the only way out would be to "seal" an alliance through marriage. :lol:

As for aristocrats, there are a few of them around but their titles etc have no validity under the Republic- it's just a tradition really and nothing else. There "titles" were turned into surnames too and that's about it.

[Havet]

Bird is the word

4CgT4N0zU1M

My parrot also does this when I play Prodigy

[hatzel]

We need more recipes, it's been over 4 posts since the last one. Therefore, allow me to share with you all the best(!!!) vegan chocolate brownie cake ever. Seriously, you'd never guess this badboy was 100% animal-friendly :tt1: For those who haven't been totally brainwashed by Earthlings (:rolleyes:), feel free to substitute in the more luxurious option...real cream...

150g milk-free margarine
6 tablespoons cocoa powder
½ cup (soya-)cream
1 cup sugar
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 cup flour
100g dark chocolate (say 80%)
100g hazelnuts

Melt margarine. Whisk in cocoa powder and let cool. In the mean time, whisk sugar and (soya-)cream until it is 'airy'. Chop up chocolate and hazelnuts. Stir margarine-cocoa mixture into the sugar-cream mixture. Whisk. Add baking power and flour and continue whisking. Stir in chocolate and hazelnuts. Spread onto a prepared form and bake for 40 minutes at 150°C (300°F)

[Bud Struggle]

Standard RevLeft Conversation:



http://static.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/4d3ca1c0efd24.jpg

[#FF0000]

That is me on facebook 100%.

[Ele'ill]

I think OI can be summed up with "Food, boobs, baby bombing"


That's my proposal for the next RC thread title.

[hatzel]

I think OI can be summed up with "Food, boobs, baby bombing"

That's my proposal for the next RC thread title.

I second this motion...

[ComradeMan]

I think OI can be summed up with "Food, boobs, baby bombing"


That's my proposal for the next RC thread title.

You disgust me.

[Havet]

I think OI can be summed up with "Food, boobs, baby bombing"


That's my proposal for the next RC thread title.

You forgot wobbley bass aka dubstep :sleep:

wobble wobble wobble :tt1:

[ComradeMan]

Hey, you perhaps all knew this...

but if you go to www.revleft.org (http://www.revleft.org), the screen isn't a depressing grey colour like www.revleft.com (http://www.revleft.com) and there are no ads.

[#FF0000]

You disgust me.

somad

[Ele'ill]

You disgust me.

Feeling guilty?

[Havet]

THE FUTURE IS NOW. Hardcore is the new casual. Casual is the new non-gamer. Non gamer is the new soccer mom. Soccer mom is the new small animal. Small animal is the new flea infested biscuit.

I am beyond these labels. I am an evolution, I am a contradiction in terms. I like excessive gaming content. I like blood, gore,sex, violence, language, and baby seal killing. I am a new type of gamer. I AM A BADASS GAMER. I AM DUKE NUKEM INCARNATE.

Welcome to the future you scum.


:confused:

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

:confused:


Insane Troll Logic (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic)

[Bud Struggle]

Just a point. I think the "cop killing" posts on this thread were absolutely vile. There are bad cops. There are bad citizens. That can be taken for granted--but just as no protester need be killed--no policeman need be killed. These guys are the Proletariat, once in a while they work for the Borugeoisie but 99% of the time they work for you. They hold your hand when problems happen, solve your marital disputes and make sure your kids don't get into too much trouble. These guys are your neighbors and you would have them killed?

Comrades, you don't have a clue who your friends are.

[ComradeMan]

Just a point. I think the "cop killing" posts on this thread were absolutely vile. There are bad cops. There are bad citizens. That can be taken for granted--but just as no protester need be killed--no policeman need be killed. These guys are the Proletariat, once in a while they work for the Borugeoisie but 99% of the time they work for you. They hold your hand when problems happen, solve your marital disputes and make sure your kids don't get into too much trouble. These guys are your neighbors and you would have them killed?

Comrades, you don't have a clue who your friends are.

I don't like the idea that we have a police force that enforces the law, there is a big difference between "serve and protect" and ENFORCEMENT! I don't like the idea that police forces seem to have become the armed wing of government or the state-militia.

On the other hand, if some of the people here with their vile rhetoric found themselves being broken into at night by a burglar or were in a terrible accident, or witnessed a shooting or were even victims (God forbid) then I am sure they would dial 911.

On a different note, has anyone tried www.revleft.org (http://www.revleft.org) ?

[Ele'ill]

These guys are the Proletariat, once in a while they work for the Borugeoisie but 99% of the time they work for you. They hold your hand when problems happen, solve your marital disputes and make sure your kids don't get into too much trouble. These guys are your neighbors and you would have them killed?

You have an obvious lack of experience with this issue and I'm happy that this is the case outside of conversational purposes.




Comrades, you don't have a clue who your friends are.

My friends don't frequently brutalize, harass and kill members of the working class community.





On a side note we've had this conversation dozens of times and I see that this is in the chit chat thread and following several of my 'hard to take' comments. :rolleyes:

[Bud Struggle]

You have an obvious lack of experience with this issue and I'm happy that this is the case outside of conversational purposes. Thank you. But you really don't understand the problems the police go through either.


My friends don't frequently brutalize, harass and kill members of the working class community. Neither do police. They aren't bad people. They are more like you than they ar like me--in a million ways.


On a side note we've had this conversation dozens of times and I see that this is in the chit chat thread and following several of my 'hard to take' comments. :rolleyes:
We just can't excuse killing anyone.

[ComradeMan]

Thank you. But you really don't understand the problems the police go through either.

Neither do police. They aren't bad people. They are more like you than they ar like me--in a million ways.


We just can't excuse killing anyone.

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[Ele'ill]

Thank you. But you really don't understand the problems the police go through either.

I most definitely do. I have not been a 'passive observer and complainer' of police conduct if that is what you are suggesting.



Neither do police.

They quite literally do, Bud.


They aren't bad people.

Many of them are. We can talk a bit about recruitment and indoctrination if you'd like. The personality types drawn into the police force are very similar. I've witnessed this through youth work. Aside from this the police force itself as a power structure is bad, corrupt, racist and dominates the general population as opposed to serving it. There isn't a service the police provide that the communities cannot provide for themselves. There is no community control over the police force.


They are more like you than they ar like me--in a million ways.

They protect you by brutalizing me.



We just can't excuse killing anyone.

This entirely depends on the situation.

[Bud Struggle]

I most definitely do. I have not been a 'passive observer and complainer' of police conduct if that is what you are suggesting.
No you don't. the every day of regular people'sw problemsw hung out to dry and a policeman solves it all. It happens a millon times a day.


Many of them are. We can talk a bit about recruitment and indoctrination if you'd like. The personality types drawn into the police force are very similar. I've witnessed this through youth work. Aside from this the police force itself as a power structure is bad, corrupt, racist and dominates the general population as opposed to serving it. There isn't a service the police provide that the communities cannot provide for themselves. There is no community control over the police force. YEA, SOME ARE BAD. I understand that but by far most are good and want to do good. They don't need to be KILLED! That's just barbaric. Really. So this: you go over to your local police department and meet those people. I will too. (And me: Not as the Imperialist Bud Struggle.) Let's see what they do and compare notes. Not from what you've "seen or from what I've "seen." But a day in the life of a cop.

I don't know if you can do that--I don't know if I can. But it's worth a try. Lets's find out the truth. OK?

[Ele'ill]

No you don't. the every day of regular people'sw problemsw hung out to dry and a policeman solves it all. It happens a millon times a day.

Working with communities particularly effected by police intimidation, violence and general corruption and talking with/mediating public assemblies and spokes councils with police chiefs, bike patrols, anti-gang units has given me quite a diverse view on the issue past your realm of understanding. When a community organizes against a dominating and undesirable force it does its homework, Bud. We are not yelling at cars we're organizing and pushing for genuine change.


YEA, SOME ARE BAD. I understand that but by far most are good and want to do good. They don't need to be KILLED!

The evidence of police involvement in corrupt activity including unnecessary violence in the form of trumped charges, harassment, physical assaults, killings and combinations of all, against people from the communities they are supposed to be serving is wide spread- chronic even. You are simply misinformed and very incorrect on this issue. In regards to killings, I of course would approach every unique situation as it is.



That's just barbaric. Really.

We would have to discuss specific instances. What's barbaric are situations where police murder and literally get off free. Where police give false report details, plant evidence, beat, kill and then target those people in the community effected who take a stand against it.




I don't know if you can do that--I don't know if I can. But it's worth a try. Lets's find out the truth. OK?

I responded a bit to this in the first portion of my post and edited out part of your paragraph accordingly. Aside from the existence of police as we have it now being unnecessary I'll comment that if the daily tasks of a cop are strenuous enough on that individual to yield the unwarranted murders and brutalization of unarmed civilians that we frequently see then they are simply not fit to serve and should be immediately removed from duty and face disciplinary action outside of the jurisdiction of the Bureau, Internal Affairs.

[Ele'ill]

On the other hand, if some of the people here with their vile rhetoric

Who here has vile rhetoric?

[#FF0000]

My intense and burning hatred for cops would be significantly lessened if there was an actual way to defend yourself against them while you are being assaulted by them or if they were held to the same standard as any other person would be when it comes to things like executing a person on a subway platform in front of a train full of people and youtube.

I know that was just one instance of police brutality, but you knew way beforehand that whatever sentence the cop involved got was going to be far more lenient than any person without a badge would have gotten. Anybody could have told you that because it's common knowledge that cops are held to a different standard, if they're held to one at all.

And that's why people hate cops. Because they have a badge and a gun and that means they don't always have to answer to the same laws as regular people do, and we know it. Law Enforcement's a rotten institution.

[#FF0000]

Man, my friend doesn't like Pixies OR Big Black. I don't know what to do with this kid.

[Revolution starts with U]

Grand Canyon is beautiful at (always) at sunset. Hike down to the bottom, then back up, smoke a bowl (suggested, not necessary) and watch the show. One will be hard-pressed to find a more uplifting experience.

Bout to do the Pacific Coast Highway over the next few days. Should be pretty fun.

[Havet]

Who here has vile rhetoric?

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[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Grand Canyon is beautiful at (always) at sunset. Hike down to the bottom, then back up, smoke a bowl (suggested, not necessary) and watch the show. One will be hard-pressed to find a more uplifting experience.

Bout to do the Pacific Coast Highway over the next few days. Should be pretty fun.

I envy you. Did a backpacking trip several summers ago, hiked down the south rim of the canyon to Havasu falls. A small native american community runs it and gives out only so many passes at a time. It was quite a great experience, I will never forget it.

Highway 1 is a great drive, there are points you will be able to look out and see the curvature of the earth. Pretty epic. (so are all the stoplights that come up at san luis obispo that exist for literally no fucking reason)

[Havet]

See, this is the problem with talking about recipes in RevLeft

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5529/tomatoesrevleft.png

[hatzel]

If we all talk about fascism enough, do you think we'll get a banner ad for Stormfront? :laugh:

[Palingenisis]

Man, my friend doesn't like Pixies OR Big Black. I don't know what to do with this kid.

I like Big Black a lot but I cant stand the Pixies. Infact they nearly annoy me as much as the Beatles do.

[#FF0000]

I like Big Black a lot but I cant stand the Pixies. Infact they nearly annoy me as much as the Beatles do.

The Beatles annoy me too. But the Pixies are great and this an objective fact so sorry you are wrong.

The fact that you listen to Big Black blows my mind though.

[Palingenisis]

The fact that you listen to Big Black blows my mind though.

Why? Outside saluting giant posters of the four heads I pet cats, drink tea, go to work on the tram line, etc. Stalinists have actually normal lives (I think there are some Big Black songs in the vids I posted on the Political exile's music thread).

[Palingenisis]

Actually fair enough I used to have the line that all rock music was decadent and you should only listen to classical and folk, but I couldnt keep up that restriction on myself in real life so I gave up pushing it here because I just being hypocritical.

[Ele'ill]

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I'm confused- what does this have to do with what I asked?

[Havet]

I'm confused- what does this have to do with what I asked?

Just a short example of vile rethoric

[danyboy27]

song dedicated to those in Egypt right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSlZi01Hm-8

[#FF0000]

I'm thinking about making a new sticky thread for OI that will be called "BEST MOD'S PIG PEN" and it will be new stories every day of police engaging in egregious acts of brutality until everyone hates cops as I do.

Thoughts

[Ele'ill]

I'm thinking about making a new sticky thread for OI that will be called "BEST MOD'S PIG PEN" and it will be new stories every day of police engaging in egregious acts of brutality until everyone hates cops as I do.

Thoughts

A sticky for every topic that Bud Struggle habitually forgets about.

[Ele'ill]

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[Ele'ill]

Also, Borderlands co-op mode is the best game I've played since 1998

[#FF0000]

Also, Borderlands co-op mode is the best game I've played since 1998

Really? I ended up selling that game I thought it was so bad. Do you have it on PC? I might try it again.

[Ele'ill]

Yes, for pc. Random weapon generator on all drops. I can see how the single player mode would get boring and the online play with random people could suck but playing the coop with my roommate has been fun.

[#FF0000]

Welp. I guess I'll give it a try when I get my Hard Drive set up.

[Revolution starts with U]

I envy you. Did a backpacking trip several summers ago, hiked down the south rim of the canyon to Havasu falls. A small native american community runs it and gives out only so many passes at a time. It was quite a great experience, I will never forget it.

Highway 1 is a great drive, there are points you will be able to look out and see the curvature of the earth. Pretty epic. (so are all the stoplights that come up at san luis obispo that exist for literally no fucking reason)

Ya lol. I was just in San Luis last night. It is like that. But the thursday street fair is pretty cool. I got some Grilled corn and a "Giant Chilli Dog."

[Bud Struggle]

I'm thinking about making a new sticky thread for OI that will be called "BEST MOD'S PIG PEN" and it will be new stories every day of police engaging in egregious acts of brutality until everyone hates cops as I do.

Thoughts

I wouldn't mind--but you should also include the acts of violence that scumbag lowlifes do against the police. :)

[Bud Struggle]

A sticky for every topic that Bud Struggle habitually forgets about.

You are right about that one. I dropped that bomb and (my wife and youngest were at a school night) my oldest daughter Rubella (17) insisted on taking me out to dinner. (She drove and payed the tab, $55-- with her own money and everything!) That was more fun that you guys. By time I checked back in and we were three pages on--so I just dropped it.

I'll continue if you like.

[Ele'ill]

You are right about that one. I dropped that bomb and (my wife and youngest were at a school night) my oldest daughter Rubella (17) insisted on taking me out to dinner. (She drove and payed the tab, $55-- with her own money and everything!) That was more fun that you guys. By time I checked back in and we were three pages on--so I just dropped it.

I'll continue if you like.


That's nice and everything but I meant more along the lines of topics you repeatedly restart. Another example would be poverty and education- we could have a 14 page thread on it lasting a week but two months later you would be presenting the same arguments seen in the beginning of the thread- without further articulation of your thoughts in response to the leftist position.

[Ele'ill]

I wouldn't mind--but you should also include the acts of violence that scumbag lowlifes do against the police. :)


Are we justifying violent acts or holding people accountable?

[Ele'ill]

I think this topic should get its own thread (again) if you want to continue, Bud.

[Bud Struggle]

That's nice and everything but I meant more along the lines of topics you repeatedly restart. Another example would be poverty and education- we could have a 14 page thread on it lasting a week but two months later you would be presenting the same arguments seen in the beginning of the thread- without further articulation of your thoughts in response to the leftist position.

So would you. It's not like there has been anything "new" in any of the Radical Left's position in the last 20 years or so. It's true I represent the status quo--but you represent a fantasy world of Revolution. There's nothing wrong with either of those positions. But you can't expect them to mean anything more than just some internet chat.

Besides I have a tough time writing more than short responses--I only do this during work-- and sometime I have a lot ot do.

[Bud Struggle]

Are we justifying violent acts or holding people accountable?

If people break law--they should be held accountable. That goes for the police as well as for citizens. I have no problem with that.

{Were off to the Keys--I'm flying my family all by myself for the first time--tonight. I'll be back on line tomorrow. ;) }

[ComradeMan]

If people break law--they should be held accountable. That goes for the police as well as for citizens. I have no problem with that.

There are good police and bad police and it vary from country to country. I am aware of the problems of "law enforcement"- the idea is to uphold the law, not enforce it in my opion- if you see what I mean.

At the same time the people preaching "cop killing" here would probably be the fist to dial 911 if something bad happened etc.

I personally think the problem is that more and more the police seems to be less about solving crimes but enforcing government policy... ;)

[#FF0000]

At the same time the people preaching "cop killing" here would probably be the fist to dial 911 if something bad happened etc.

No one here is preaching cop killing though. And I avoid talking to cops if at all possible. I would sort of have to if a crime was committed, though, seeing as they're the ones with the monopoly on "legitimate" violence.


That was more fun that you guys

Yeah? Well we played Stratego and had soda and chips and had so much fun without you so there.

[Bud Struggle]

No one here is preaching cop killing though. And I avoid talking to cops if at all possible. I would sort of have to if a crime was committed, though, seeing as they're the ones with the monopoly on "legitimate" violence.

I have no problem with you or anyone else not "liking" the police. People like and dislike what they want. My problem is with the idea of in any way harming them. If they do wrong they should be punished by the appropriate authorities and if you or I do wrong we should be punished by the appropriate authorities.

And cops shouldn't be above the law, BUT they have a job to do and they should be respected for that.

[#FF0000]

And cops shouldn't be above the law, BUT they have a job to do and they should be respected for that

Oh come on. I agreed to not celebrate the death of every cop with an ice cream cake and streamers but this is going too far.

[Ele'ill]

And cops shouldn't be above the law, BUT they have a job to do and they should be respected for that.

I don't respect them because the majority of their actions don't affect working class communities anywhere close to the extremes that their actual purpose and actual conduct does (in a negative way).


I again think it deserves a thread if there's going to be lengthy replies.

[Ele'ill]

At the same time the people preaching "cop killing" here would probably be the fist to dial 911 if something bad happened etc.


Nobody is advocating cop killing.

[ComradeMan]

Nobody is advocating cop killing.

but...


cry about it, cops get shot all the time over "routine" traffic stops.

then...

Good. :mellow:

Errhum...

[Lt. Ferret]

oh and if you guys werent jealous of how awesome i am already, tomorrow night im going to las vegas to see motorhead in concert.

[Bud Struggle]

x_wLVCLPx0M

[hatzel]

To use the most appropriately out-dated words I can think of: that guy's guitar is boss! :)

[Havet]

I haven't checked the sources, but if this is true...

http://www.tpuc.org/content/marijuana-conspiracy

[#FF0000]

Errhum...

It is a joke.

But what isn't a joke is that I literally don't care if a cop gets shot.

[Lt. Ferret]

i literally dont care if a scumbag threatening a cop gets shot.

[Ele'ill]

i literally dont care if a scumbag threatening a cop gets shot.


Cops would never shoot each other.

[#FF0000]

i literally dont care if a scumbag threatening a cop gets shot.

d'oh you said a thing that contradicts a thing i said that just burns me up and i'm so mad goob goob

[Lt. Ferret]

im so rebellious i hate authority whats democratic centralism.

[#FF0000]

whats democratic centralism.

a cake

[Lt. Ferret]

the cake is a lie.

[#FF0000]

the cake is a lie.

masterstroke

[Bud Struggle]

It is a joke.

But what isn't a joke is that I literally don't care if a cop gets shot.

See, that's crap.

I care if a cop gets shot--I ALSO CARE if a citizen (even if he is a scumbag) gets shot.

[#FF0000]

See, that's crap.

I care if a cop gets shot--I ALSO CARE if a citizen (even if he is a scumbag) gets shot.

Let's attribute it to difference in experiences and we'll leave it at that.

[Lt. Ferret]

what cop experience traumatized you?