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The Idler
20th January 2011, 00:02
Please read any replies to this thread then vote for the best news event in 2010 for the left-wing movement and working-class or vote "other" and suggest others in replies below. If this is popular I will try and do other stuff and for other years.

scarletghoul
20th January 2011, 00:20
I voted for the London riots. They're nothing compared to some of the other poll options in terms of scale, but they're extremely significant because they mark a sudden turning point in this country, a change which no one predicted and which was unimaginable even one year ago. For 20 years liberal capitalism had gone unchallenged, people would not rebel either out of hopelessness or apathy. That day marked the end of "the end of history" in England. It was an Event.

CynicalIdealist
20th January 2011, 00:40
I lol'd at healthcare "reform" and troops "getting out of Iraq."

The Garbage Disposal Unit
20th January 2011, 00:54
Raan.

Amphictyonis
20th January 2011, 01:09
If anyone votes for "United States, Obama healthcare bill passe" I'm going to eat my hands.

RedScare
20th January 2011, 01:18
No France and all the stuff there?

Impulse97
20th January 2011, 01:26
If anyone votes for "United States, Obama healthcare bill passe" I'm going to eat my hands.


Damn. A missed opportunity.:hammersickle::che::hammersickle:

RevoTO
20th January 2011, 01:31
Voted for greece, but Venezuela was a close second for me. The significance for me is not really him calling for a fifth international though.

Widerstand
20th January 2011, 02:07
Greece definitely, but only 'cos RAAN smashing a democrat window wasn't on the list.

Lol @US stuff.

KurtFF8
20th January 2011, 02:22
I was just about to complain that the Tunisian events aren't on there. Then I realized that it's 2011 all of the sudden.

Widerstand
20th January 2011, 03:03
I was just about to complain that the Tunisian events aren't on there. Then I realized that it's 2011 all of the sudden.

It started in 2010 though.

Reznov
20th January 2011, 03:10
WikiLeaks for me.

It just gives us proof and a real good weapon in debates.

That said, Greece riots are really inspiring.

Lee Van Cleef
20th January 2011, 03:15
Well, so far I'm the only person to vote for Maoist struggles in Asia. To me, while the other events are clearly important, it is Eurocentric to claim riots or protests of any sort are more important than real Marxist struggles in the Third World.

I know that these movements have existed for years now, but 2010 marked impressive strides for each. It appears that the Nepalese Maoists are finally getting back to being revolutionaries, and the Naxalites have gotten prominent and strong enough that even the government fears it is losing the struggle against them.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
20th January 2011, 13:01
UK student protests, probably because it was the first tangible mass action that i've really seen first-hand.

No France on the list?

the last donut of the night
20th January 2011, 14:08
i'm pretty sure the proletarian and people's RAAN attacks on that imperialist lackey california democratic party office were the most admirable and glorious actions of the proletariat in 2010 and will undoubtedly will stand the sands of time and shine as a luminous example of the RAAN's commitment to the marx-engels-crust punk line of thought

the last donut of the night
20th January 2011, 14:11
Well, so far I'm the only person to vote for Maoist struggles in Asia. To me, while the other events are clearly important, it is Eurocentric to claim riots or protests of any sort are more important than real Marxist struggles in the Third World.


So strikes, student and worker demonstrations, and the like are not "real" Marxist struggles? They're just as Marxist as those Third World struggles. Please do us all a favor and QFT.

scarletghoul
20th January 2011, 14:19
So strikes, student and worker demonstrations, and the like are not "real" Marxist struggles? They're just as Marxist as those Third World struggles. Please do us all a favor and QFT.
The Indian and Nepali movements are far bigger than any of the strikes and protests we've had in Europe. They're far closer to revolution

Delenda Carthago
20th January 2011, 15:27
South-East Asia.And I think that by mentioning only England is a bit unfair, since this was a Europian uprise at the time. Italy,France,Spain,Ireland and Portugal are also on that train that was maybe the first spark of light in Europe.Greece is another situation though...

thesadmafioso
20th January 2011, 16:04
Why the hatred for the Health care bill? Yes, it wasn't exactly perfect but you simply cannot deny its progressive intent. In the context of the American political spectrum, health care was something that was previously untouchable, and we finally saw some reform to it this year. Since when is a move towards a system of socialized medicine not considered a positive step for leftism? The step is rather small, but it still clearly signifies a step in the right direction.

ZeroNowhere
20th January 2011, 16:07
I love how the poll seems to have completely run out of idea when it comes to the US. 'Now, the most important event in the US was probably... Wait, did anything even happen in the US?'

the last donut of the night
20th January 2011, 16:22
The Indian and Nepali movements are far bigger than any of the strikes and protests we've had in Europe. They're far closer to revolution

No doubt. But I wasn't disputing the scale of these movements -- I was just disputing LVC's issue of the authenticity of the movements, compared to the European demonstrations.

ExUnoDisceOmnes
20th January 2011, 16:48
I have to go with wikileaks... I don't think anything else will have as profound or long-lasting of an international effect.

Bardo
20th January 2011, 17:34
I went with the situation in Greece.

Wikileaks and the UK protests are also very praise worthy

IndependentCitizen
20th January 2011, 17:46
What student riots?

DecDoom
20th January 2011, 18:50
I voted WikiLeaks, although the events in Greece are very interesting.

the last donut of the night
20th January 2011, 22:16
I decided not to vote. Although a lot of these developments are very important, which one was the 'best' is something very subjective and not something we can really judge on. They, for the most part, either represent a growing class consciousness among workers, where they have begun to recognize their power and have started asserting, or a crisis in imperialism's credibility. In a whole, they're all very complex and multi-faceted events, and their outcome is pretty unpredictable. Nobody really knows which one of these will play the larger part in the struggle coming ahead. What's 'best'? I'm not sure.

Drosophila
21st January 2011, 00:59
I lol'd at healthcare "reform" and troops "getting out of Iraq."

We pulled out of Iraq about as much as the singer 'Meatloaf' pulled out of his girlfriend.

human strike
21st January 2011, 01:54
Definitely one of the first three of the list for me. In my overtly biased position as a student in the UK and deeply involved in the movement, I had to vote for the student protests. I would like to stress though that I and many others involved see it as an international movement, not simply a UK struggle.

William Howe
21st January 2011, 06:43
I think Wikileaks' conception and leaks constitute as the greatest progress towards, not only Leftism, but free press and free speech.