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Red Future
19th January 2011, 16:38
What exactly defines this ? ive heard it referred to on Lithuania and the former eastern block in general but what defines it from traditional nationalism

Savage
19th January 2011, 22:34
There was another thread like this, Fascism was regarded as 'ultra-nationalist' unanimously, i doubt that Lithuania and the former Eastern Block qualify (by the way, me calling myself 'Ultra-Internationalist' is basically a joke at stupid political terms).

Robocommie
19th January 2011, 23:34
I think the Wikipedia definition is pretty good.




Ultranationalism is a form of nationalism that expresses intense support for one's nation, and is often characterized by authoritarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism). It can lead to reduction or stoppage of immigration, expulsion, oppression, demagoguery, emotional aspects, talk of presumed real or imagined enemies, threat to survival, crack-down, limit of trade through tariffs, tight control over businesses and production, militarism, populism and propaganda. Ultranationalism has the potential to lead to conflict within a state, as well as between states, and in its extreme form leads to war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War), secession (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession) or, in the case of enthnocentrist ultranationalism, genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide).[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultranationalism#cite_note-35)[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultranationalism#cite_note-Connor_1994p29-36)

Fascism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism) is a form of palingenetic ultranationalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenetic_ultranationalism)[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultranationalism#cite_note-Griffin_1994-37), which promotes "class collaboration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_collaboration)" (as opposed to class war), a totalitarian state, and irredentism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredentism) or expansionism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansionism) to unify and allow the growth of a nation. Fascists sometimes promote ethnic or cultural nationalism. Fascism stresses the subservience of the individual to the state, and the need to absolute and unquestioned loyalty to a strong ruler.

Property Is Robbery
19th January 2011, 23:41
It can lead to reduction or stoppage of immigration, expulsion, oppression, demagoguery, emotional aspects, talk of presumed real or imagined enemies, threat to survival, crack-down, limit of trade through tariffs, tight control over businesses and production, militarism, populism and propaganda. Ultranationalism has the potential to lead to conflict within a state, as well as between states, and in its extreme form leads to war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War), secession (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession) or, in the case of enthnocentrist ultranationalism, genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide).[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultranationalism#cite_note-35)[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultranationalism#cite_note-Connor_1994p29-36)

A lot of this sounds like the United States

Robocommie
19th January 2011, 23:54
A lot of this sounds like the United States

Yeah, there's always been that tendency in the US. Reference Nativism, the Know Nothings, the later Klan, Minutemen, the Tea Party, etc.

Tablo
20th January 2011, 04:19
There certainly are some ultranationalist currents in the US, but most people are still resisting it.