Movie on Rosa Luxemburg

[indya]

Does anyone know where I can find imdb.com/title/tt0091869/ online. it is a film about Rosa Luxemburg and Liebknecht and the spartacist revolt and everything. it is apparently pretty good.

[Black Sheep]

I want it too :)

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

You can get it on VHS for $459.99 here: http://www.amazon.com/Rosa-Luxemburg-VHS-Barbara-Sukowa/dp/6303029302/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1295190887&sr=1-1

[Vanguard1917]

You can get it on VHS for $459.99 here: http://www.amazon.com/Rosa-Luxemburg-VHS-Barbara-Sukowa/dp/6303029302/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1295190887&sr=1-1

They only have 1 in store, and at that price they're guaranteed to sell like hotcakes.

[indya]

you would be surprised what people will pay for things. I have seen $5 iTunes gift cards selling for $20 on ebay.

[Tower of Bebel]

Die Geduld der Rosa Luxemburg (http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9B0DEFDB1130F932A35756C0A961948260) (review). You can find a twelf-part German upload on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JqDbpTCb5Y (the English subtitles don't really match)

It's a classic because it's a typical, biographial representation of Luxemburg. I liked it, but maybe just because I like Luxemburg. Yet, it's still a good introduction to her life and work.

Edit: I found an old thread on the subject: http://www.revleft.com/vb/die-geduld-der-t125864/index.html (again, there are only German uploads).

[apawllo]

i haven't used these, and don't know about their accuracy, but here are some english subs:


http://www.mediafire.com/?5w2cr4a849ocmaq

[HEAD ICE]

You can get it on VHS for $459.99 here: http://www.amazon.com/Rosa-Luxemburg-VHS-Barbara-Sukowa/dp/6303029302/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1295190887&sr=1-1

I will order that right away.

[Rakhmetov]

Dr. Luxemburg was murdered because she failed to organize her Spartacist party along Leninist lines. She criticized the Bolsheviks and look where it got her and her German people. This is not to say that she was not courageous or less of a revolutionary, just a critique on her choice of tactics. :confused:

[Tower of Bebel]

Dr. Luxemburg was murdered because she failed to organize her Spartacist party along Leninist lines. She criticized the Bolsheviks and look where it got her and her German people. This is not to say that she was not courageous or less of a revolutionary, just a critique on her choice of tactics. :confused:
That's very simplistic. There were no Leninist lines in 1918 and Bolshevisation of the Communist Parties only started in the early 1920s. What are those lines anyway? Rosa Luxemburg failed to organize a revolutionairy current within the SPD and later the USPD, that's true and it had a lot to do with the organizational policies she stood for. But the cours of the early Spartacist movement was not determined by her actions but by the democratic vote.

The party was a very young one in terms of experience and she understood that. When the party planned the Spartacist uprising she stood against it but abided the choice of the majority. I think Liebknecht belonged to the majority. Luxemburg feared that the Berlin prolateriat would drown in blood.

Her critique of the Bolsheviks in 1918 was largely correct. The Russian Revolution is an important pamphlet for everyone to read. Her critique of the Bolsheviks prior to 1905 was largely wrong but she corrected many of her ideas during and after the 1905 revolution.

I think her biggest mistake was her proposal on the 1913 congress of the SPD I think, where she proposed to tighten the party's centralism to counter the growth of opportunism. I think the opportunists abused this organizational (not programmatic or any other) centralism to expell or marginalise the left afterwards.

But lets not forget that she was also marginalised by many in the SPD prior to 1914. As a women and Polish revolutionary German party members dispised her, especially her marxist rethoric. She became useful to recrute Polish workers in Germany however. But also the center (Bebel, Kautsky, etc.) played an important role, one more important than Luxemburgs. They also could not counter the growth of opportunism.

[Os Cangaceiros]

If you use torrents, there's a good quality DVD rip with eng subs on Cinemageddon (http://cinemageddon.net/). If you're interested PM me, and I'll hook you up with an invite.

[Rakhmetov]

That's very simplistic. There were no Leninist lines in 1918 and Bolshevisation of the Communist Parties only started in the early 1920s. What are those lines anyway? Rosa Luxemburg failed to organize a revolutionairy current within the SPD and later the USPD, that's true and it had a lot to do with the organizational policies she stood for. But the cours of the early Spartacist movement was not determined by her actions but by the democratic vote.

The party was a very young one in terms of experience and she understood that. When the party planned the Spartacist uprising she stood against it but abided the choice of the majority. I think Liebknecht belonged to the majority. Luxemburg feared that the Berlin prolateriat would drown in blood.

Her critique of the Bolsheviks in 1918 was largely correct. The Russian Revolution is an important pamphlet for everyone to read. Her critique of the Bolsheviks prior to 1905 was largely wrong but she corrected many of her ideas during and after the 1905 revolution.

I think her biggest mistake was her proposal on the 1913 congress of the SPD I think, where she proposed to tighten the party's centralism to counter the growth of opportunism. I think the opportunists abused this organizational (not programmatic or any other) centralism to expell or marginalise the left afterwards.

But lets not forget that she was also marginalised by many in the SPD prior to 1914. As a women and Polish revolutionary German party members dispised her, especially her marxist rethoric. She became useful to recrute Polish workers in Germany however. But also the center (Bebel, Kautsky, etc.) played an important role, one more important than Luxemburgs. They also could not counter the growth of opportunism.


Oh, that's a lot of cant. Her political infantilism precluded any kind of concerted effort to destroy the conservative faction. What you need is a vanguard revolutionary disciplined cadre--- very hard people capable of splitting reactionary heads wide open.

[Tower of Bebel]

You would have failed as well I think, since you've only repeated what you wrote before without addressing the points I just made. You can't create a "vanguard revolutionary cadre" out of nothing. Hell, you don't even try to define a vanguard party in relation to the already existing SPD.

What would you do if you were practically the only one?

[Os Cangaceiros]

I watched this film last night. It was OK. I'm not sure how accurate it was vis-a-vis the story's subject (as I know little of Rosa Luxemburg), but it was entertaining enough, I suppose. The woman who plays her looks a little bit like the real Rosa, and famous figures in German socialism like Bebel, Kautsky and Liebknecht make appearances throughout.

The best part was when she gave Eduard Bernstein the cold shoulder.

http://i.imgur.com/yZlDn.png

[Tower of Bebel]

Yeah, I liked that one too. I also like the scene where Luxemburg would throw something at the guard to show how angry she was when he claimed that she was not allowed to hug her friend. I laughed when the guard took out his pensil to write it down. She was so strong (in the moral sense) and important that even the guards did not try to discipline her.

I thought the footage from the revolution was a bit weird though. But maybe they serve an educational role. How many people are familiar with footage from the German revolution nowadays?

But to answer the question. It's based on Nettle's account of the subject. Do you remember the discussion Luxemburg and Bebel had on the effects of the 1905 revolution in Germany? Bebel said that, if a revolution would occur in Germany, Bebel would be on the right (against the revolution) and Luxemburg on the left. It's the scene where they discuss the role of women in the movement too.

This account has only been mentioned by Nettle. All other biographies refrain from this alleged confession of Bebel or place a footnote near it to explain it is Nettle's account.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

So, to resurrect this thread, does anyone have any English subs for this online?

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

VHS?! :lol:

[Creative Destruction]

Resurrecting this thread to say that the film is on Youtube with English subs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiR0MmxB2qU

[KurtFF8]

Of course there's also a great review of this on the Left Film Review ;)

Anyway I believe this same actress just recently played Hana Ardent in the film that just came out about Ardent.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

I watched this film last night. It was OK. I'm not sure how accurate it was vis-a-vis the story's subject (as I know little of Rosa Luxemburg), but it was entertaining enough, I suppose. The woman who plays her looks a little bit like the real Rosa, and famous figures in German socialism like Bebel, Kautsky and Liebknecht make appearances throughout.

The best part was when she gave Eduard Bernstein the cold shoulder.

http://i.imgur.com/yZlDn.png

That picture is beyond hilarious.