Google, Reading Level and Revleft

[RedAnarchist]

http://www.google.com/advanced_search

Adjust reading level to "Annotate results with reading level" and search for a website.

Revleft and Stormfront -

RevLeft's Reading Level -
Basic 6%
Intermediate 10%
Advanced 82%

Stormfront's "Reading" Level -
Basic 44%
Intermediate 51%
Advanced 3%

(I'm not laughing at illiterate people here, just pointing out that Stormfront is much more simplistic than RevLeft. Not that that was exactly a secret).

[Red Commissar]

Yes. Quite.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hxrN3kGZmC0/TFl7iQzvd9I/AAAAAAAAA_M/YaDtFSpgipQ/s1600/herculepoirot.jpg

[John "Eh" MacDonald]

toefur-straightedge reading level-
Basic 45%
Intermediate 45%
Advanced 8%

Drugs-Forum reading level-
Basic 2%
Intermediate 65%
Advance 31%

Take from it what you will...

[John "Eh" MacDonald]

4chan reading level-
Basic 41%
Intermediate 3%
Advanced 55%

lol wut?

[Wanted Man]

When you search within a website, there isn't much difference:

Results by reading level for site:http://www.revleft.com:
Basic 39%
Intermediate 55%
Advanced 5%

Results by reading level for site:www.***************:
Basic 39%
Intermediate 53%
Advanced 7%

Which is more realistic?

[John "Eh" MacDonald]

When you search within a website, there isn't much difference:

Results by reading level for site:http://www.revleft.com:
Basic 39%
Intermediate 55%
Advanced 5%

Results by reading level for site:www.***************: (http://www.***************:)
Basic 39%
Intermediate 53%
Advanced 7%

Which is more realistic?

buzz kill...

[Wanted Man]

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs332.snc4/41786_370636533212_1225432_n.jpg

That's me on the left.

[Rusty Shackleford]

www.myspace.com (http://www.myspace.com)

Basic (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.myspace.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:0&sa=X&ei=4icyTf2cG5L2swOckJy2BQ&ved=0CGkQigooAA)78%
Intermediate (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.myspace.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:1&sa=X&ei=4icyTf2cG5L2swOckJy2BQ&ved=0CGoQigooAQ)19%
Advanced (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.myspace.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:2&sa=X&ei=4icyTf2cG5L2swOckJy2BQ&ved=0CGsQigooAg)1%

www.facebook.com (http://www.facebook.com)

Basic (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.facebook.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:0&sa=X&ei=_ycyTdKhOZC8sQPRrLGsBQ&ved=0CHMQigooAA)38%
Intermediate (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.facebook.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:1&sa=X&ei=_ycyTdKhOZC8sQPRrLGsBQ&ved=0CHQQigooAQ)38%
Advanced (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.facebook.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:2&sa=X&ei=_ycyTdKhOZC8sQPRrLGsBQ&ved=0CHUQigooAg)23%

www.wikipedia.com (http://www.wikipedia.com)
Basic (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.wikipedia.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:0&sa=X&ei=OCgyTb-jJon0swP1q62FBg&ved=0CDAQigooAA)0%
Intermediate (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.wikipedia.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:1&sa=X&ei=OCgyTb-jJon0swP1q62FBg&ved=0CDEQigooAQ)100%
Advanced (http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.wikipedia.com&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=off&tbs=rl:1,rls:2&sa=X&ei=OCgyTb-jJon0swP1q62FBg&ved=0CDIQigooAg)0%




i blame chitchat for reading level degeneration.

I implore everyone to commence using larger and more grandiose and more profound words to convey our intellect to the world wide web. Or, at the bare minimum, to construct a facade of intellectual superiority to the internet community.

[Kuppo Shakur]

Undoubtedly.
I think it's because of "Proletariat" and "Bourgeoisie".

[Rusty Shackleford]

dont forget dialectical materialism and anti-dialectics.

[synthesis]

When you search within a website, there isn't much difference:

Results by reading level for site:http://www.revleft.com:
Basic 39%
Intermediate 55%
Advanced 5%

Results by reading level for site:www.***************: (http://www.***************:)
Basic 39%
Intermediate 53%
Advanced 7%

Which is more realistic?

Any idea about what the different search options measure differently?

[Bright Banana Beard]

Our comrade here is absolutely correct here. Please remind yourself of our impeccable missions.

[Nolan]

Someone check the Mises.org forums.

[Fawkes]

"Yeah, but I don't think you should sign it 'Baby Kangaroo Tribiani' "


If you can name that reference and who said it, I will give you a full body massage free of charge.

[Aurora]

Will you massage my full sized aortic pump?

[Jazzratt]

Someone check the Mises.org forums. To be fair one thing I've noticed is that Miseans quite often use words and phrases that mean something only to other Miseans, which may well put them in the "advanced" category.

[Il Medico]

Mises.org:

Basic (http://www.google.com/search?q=Mises.org&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=images&tbs=rl:1,rls:0&sa=X&ei=YpgyTarQM4nPgAeEs6X1Cw&ved=0CIYBEIoKKAA)10%
Intermediate (http://www.google.com/search?q=Mises.org&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=images&tbs=rl:1,rls:1&sa=X&ei=YpgyTarQM4nPgAeEs6X1Cw&ved=0CIcBEIoKKAE)49%
Advanced (http://www.google.com/search?q=Mises.org&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=images&tbs=rl:1,rls:2&sa=X&ei=YpgyTarQM4nPgAeEs6X1Cw&ved=0CIgBEIoKKAI)40%

[BIG BROTHER]

sorry to sound like an idiot but what do they mean by "reading level" and how do they calculate it?

[REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL]

Woooooooooo! Beat Mises.org and Stormfront! This is a glorious victory for the proletriat.

[Jazzratt]

Woooooooooo! Beat Mises.org and Stormfront! This is a glorious victory for the proletriat. To be fair it seems odd to me to talk of "beating" either website on the basis of an 'advanced' reading level. It could easily be a simple indication of our using obscure and obtuse language to make our points rather than anything like a genuine metric of intellect.

[John "Eh" MacDonald]

"Yeah, but I don't think you should sign it 'Baby Kangaroo Tribiani' "


If you can name that reference and who said it, I will give you a full body massage free of charge.

LOL, its obviously Friends.... Joey, nobody else has the brain to say it...
I'll iectspect the full body massage when i visit NYC in 2 years.

[ZeroNowhere]

Fair calanthe withered in ethereal breezes.

[Red Commissar]

sorry to sound like an idiot but what do they mean by "reading level" and how do they calculate it?


To be fair it seems odd to me to talk of "beating" either website on the basis of an 'advanced' reading level. It could easily be a simple indication of our using obscure and obtuse language to make our points rather than anything like a genuine metric of intellect.

Yeah, reading level indicates how "readable" a site is. In other words, "Basic" would mean it is easy to read and understand, "intermediate" means it requires some knowledge of the content, and "advanced" usually means it is geared towards people who already know about the subject matter.

[Fawkes]

LOL, its obviously Friends.... Joey, nobody else has the brain to say it...
I'll iectspect the full body massage when i visit NYC in 2 years.

Incorrect. Chandler said that line, though it was directed toward Joey.

[synthesis]

Fair calanthe withered in ethereal breezes.
I came.

[Rafiq]

To be fair it seems odd to me to talk of "beating" either website on the basis of an 'advanced' reading level. It could easily be a simple indication of our using obscure and obtuse language to make our points rather than anything like a genuine metric of intellect.

On the other hand, it could relate to the fact that people here talk like that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Robocommie]

Indubitably.

[Jazzratt]

On the other hand, it could relate to the fact that people here talk like that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't think anything in the quoted text moved beyond intermediate reading level. Regardless I don't think that my vocabulary makes me intellectually superior to anyone, in fact most people that are more perspicacious than I am have a smaller vocabulary, which is precisely my problem with the bloody arbitrary metric of "reading level". We have a generally more intelligent membership than Stormfront or the Mises forums because we have understanding enough of biology not to be racist and understanding enough of mathematics, sociology and class relations not to be soi disant Libertarians. No matter what manner our members choose to express themselves this will always be the case; arguing otherwise brings us perilously close to the specious concept that vernacular language betrays a limited intellect which is a fucking stupid view if you ask me.

[Rafiq]

I don't think anything in the quoted text moved beyond intermediate reading level. Regardless I don't think that my vocabulary makes me intellectually superior to anyone, in fact most people that are more perspicacious than I am have a smaller vocabulary, which is precisely my problem with the bloody arbitrary metric of "reading level". We have a generally more intelligent membership than Stormfront or the Mises forums because we have understanding enough of biology not to be racist and understanding enough of mathematics, sociology and class relations not to be soi disant Libertarians. No matter what manner our members choose to express themselves this will always be the case; arguing otherwise brings us perilously close to the specious concept that vernacular language betrays a limited intellect which is a fucking stupid view if you ask me.

Well yeah, I know.

But the fact that you have that opinion, to me, is pretty intelligent.

You're probably more intelligent than the average joe, and this is undeniable.

And I'm not basing it off of your vocabulary, but your posts, and your opinion on topics.

Also, What I meant was not that your post right there was really that advanced, but to the average person, our means of communication is actually pretty advanced.

Revleft itself greatly expands the vocabulary of people.

[Aurora]

perspicacious
Now your just showing off :p

[Amphictyonis]

iectspect t

I are to axpect sum 2.

[Jazzratt]

Now your just showing off :p
I chose the term for two reasons: firstly I think it was more precise than "intelligent" and represented what sort of intelligence I was trying to describe better than either "knowledgeable" or "sagacious" [I suppose I could have used "intuitively intelligent" but I'm drunk so I think I can be excused that] and secondly because I thought that it would be funny to use a lesser used term in a thread that touts them as being some kind of gauge of intelligence; especially as I tend only to use words like that as part of compound insults in political threads. The humour to be gleaned from that second reason is obviously subjective but I thought it was a bit of a laugh.


Well yeah, I know.

But the fact that you have that opinion, to me, is pretty intelligent.

You're probably more intelligent than the average joe, and this is undeniable.

And I'm not basing it off of your vocabulary, but your posts, and your opinion on topics.

Also, What I meant was not that your post right there was really that advanced, but to the average person, our means of communication is actually pretty advanced.

Revleft itself greatly expands the vocabulary of people. You've misunderstood. I don't deny being more intelligent than most people, although to be fair I feel uncomfortable simply asserting that I am as that feels like arrogance. I also think that the majority of members on revleft are really quite intelligent, certainly moreso than the sites cited in this thread as full of idiots. I simply don't think that reading level is a reliable indicator of our intelligence - or at least not a very good way of trying to compare us to them in terms of intellect. I think that it is especially the case we should be wary of measuring ourselves by this metric because a lot of idiots (racists, lolbertarians, liberals, conservatives, etc...) use specialised language that can raise these scores or, especially in the case of Miseans and racists, normal polysyllables given a different meaning to obfuscate any pernicious intent - such as "indigenous" in the case of racists.